Prado on Adriano

[ShadowRoll]

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...rby-mount.aspx

Chalk it up to his relationship with Motion, or does he (or his agent) think Adriano's got a better shot than Tale of Ekati or Monba?

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...rby-mount.aspx

Chalk it up to his relationship with Motion, or does he (or his agent) think Adriano's got a better shot than Tale of Ekati or Monba?

Interesting. The jock carousel will continue, I'm sure. There were rumors that Gomez would hop off Court Vision in favor of Colonel John, but those have been shot down (Nakatani still on). Gomez could wind up on one of the Pletcher horses, if he were to leave Mott's colt.

In fact, these seem to to be the only somewhat confirmed jockey assignments for the derby:

War Pass - C.Velasquez
Pyro - S. Bridgemohan
Big Brown - K. Desormeaux
Recapturetheglory - ET Baird
Smooth Air - Manny Cruz
Visionaire - Jose Lezcano
Adriano - Edgar Prado
Gayego - Mike Smith

[FGFan]

I suspect Robby Albarado will end up on Z Fortune.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...rby-mount.aspx

Chalk it up to his relationship with Motion, or does he (or his agent) think Adriano's got a better shot than Tale of Ekati or Monba?

him and his agent have to think that... realtionships are cool and all but this is the derby, he'd ride whatever horse he felt had the best chance, and its adriano...

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Interesting. The jock carousel will continue, I'm sure. There were rumors that Gomez would hop off Court Vision in favor of Colonel John, but those have been shot down (Nakatani still on). Gomez could wind up on one of the Pletcher horses, if he were to leave Mott's colt.

In fact, these seem to to be the only somewhat confirmed jockey assignments for the derby:

War Pass - C.Velasquez
Pyro - S. Bridgemohan
Big Brown - K. Desormeaux
Recapturetheglory - ET Baird
Smooth Air - Manny Cruz
Visionaire - Jose Lezcano
Adriano - Edgar Prado
Gayego - Mike Smith

... and Dominguez on Monba.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

him and his agent have to think that... realtionships are cool and all but this is the derby, he'd ride whatever horse he felt had the best chance, and its adriano...

I don't think Prado thinks any of those horses have a big chance, otherwise he would've committed earlier.

[Riot]

Well, at the Team Penning Monday night, Jamie Theriot showed he really has an excellent seat on a horse and some cow sense. Julian L. is okay, and Robby A. looked a bit out of place. Angel C. was there, but I don't think he was really participating

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I don't think Prado thinks any of those horses have a big chance, otherwise he would've committed earlier.

ok i can agree with that... but this is the KENTUCKY DERBY, he is going to ride the horse that he feels give's him the best shot to win, do you agree ?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by Mumtaz

Well, at the Team Penning Monday night, Jamie Theriot showed he really has an excellent seat on a horse and some cow sense. Julian L. is okay, and Robby A. looked a bit out of place. Angel C. was there, but I don't think he was really participating

julian is going to be great...
as soon as patrick returns.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

ok i can agree with that... but this is the KENTUCKY DERBY, he is going to ride the horse that he feels give's him the best shot to win, do you agree ?

Sure.. Or if the difference is negligible, he might choose loyalty. If he thought Tale of Ekati or Monba had legitimate shots to win, he'd be on one of them. Says something about them that he chose the horse who's yet to prove anything on dirt, I think.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Sure.. Or if the difference is negligible, he might choose loyalty. If he thought Tale of Ekati or Monba had legitimate shots to win, he'd be on one of them. Says something about them that he chose the horse who's yet to prove anything on dirt, I think.

i was going to say something like that earlier..... i throw monba and tale of ekati out now.... adriano was horrible on dirt in the FOY, and that race has came back to be a horrible race, no one has come back to win, and he was beaten badly, never ran a good or even decent race on dirt, and prado picks him over... the wood winner and the bluegrass winner....

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i was going to say something like that earlier..... i throw monba and tale of ekati out now.... adriano was horrible on dirt in the FOY, and that race has came back to be a horrible race, no one has come back to win, and he was beaten badly, never ran a good or even decent race on dirt, and prado picks him over... the wood winner and the bluegrass winner....

I was on the fence about both, and I still am, but this certainly doesn't give me any more confidence in them.

[Riot]

From bloodhorse.com (excerpted)

“I knew it was going to be a tough choice for him, and it obviously makes me feel good about everything,” trainer Graham Motion said. “Edgar rode for me when I first started training. I’m not sure we both didn’t have our first stakes winner in New York together. So, we certainly go back a long way. We’ve always had a rapport and I’ve always felt the most comfortable with him riding the horses. When he won the Lane’s End, he didn’t have any other Derby mounts, so we discussed having him ride the horse back then. Then he goes and wins two grade I stakes leading up to the Derby.

“One of the reasons I worked Adriano at Churchill Downs this week was to let Edgar get a feel for him on the track and see what he thought. It was as much for his benefit as for mine. He wanted to see for himself before he made his decision, and I wanted to see for myself before I made my decision. I was tickled when he turned into the stretch and he showed that extraordinary stride when Edgar asked him. I let him do as he pleased, sort of like taking out a new car for a spin. He let him roll the last part, and I clocked him in :11 and change for the final eighth. When Edgar asked him he really took off from his workmate, who is a very useful stakes winner.”

[IrishofNDMan]

I will still be using Tale Of Ekati in all spots of my ticket, can't say the same for Adriano however.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by Mumtaz

Well, at the Team Penning Monday night, Jamie Theriot showed he really has an excellent seat on a horse and some cow sense. Julian L. is okay, and Robby A. looked a bit out of place. Angel C. was there, but I don't think he was really participating

What? Were they really working cattle or is this a joke...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by FGFan

What? Were they really working cattle or is this a joke...

No, really "working" cattle, for charity (Don MacBeth Memorial Jockey Fund) - two local cowboys or girls, and a jock on the team. Cut three designated cattle out and into the pen at the other end of the arena. They also have a calcutta on the teams. Tim Conway was the Emcee.

Bill W. is in town and goes, I went along with him - pretty fun stuff!

But Theriot really does have a very good, soft seat on a horse. Pat Day was there, too. Who else, Bill?

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by Mumtaz

No, really "working" cattle, for charity (Don MacBeth Memorial Jockey Fund) - two local cowboys or girls, and a jock on the team. Cut three designated cattle out and into the pen at the other end of the arena. They also have a calcutta on the teams. Tim Conway was the Emcee.

Bill W. is in town and goes, I went along with him - pretty fun stuff!

But Theriot really does have a very good, soft seat on a horse. Pat Day was there, too. Who else, Bill?

OMG that is too much fun.
I would have loved to have been there for that. Must have been funny to see some of them on a cutting horse.
Glad to hear Jamie kept up his Cajun heritage, he seems as though he's into that kind of stuff. At the fund raiser for EJ Perrodin Jamie donated a cow skin saddle for the auction. We all had a big discussion if he actually ever used it.

Hey next year I'll send ya a catahoula dog for the jocks that have a hard time.

What a fun thing, glad you enjoyed yourself, did you buy the right calcutta?

[Riot]

LOL - I didn't bid. The big farms were bidding, most teams were 1-2 thousand dollars.

[Gander]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Interesting. The jock carousel will continue, I'm sure. There were rumors that Gomez would hop off Court Vision in favor of Colonel John, but those have been shot down (Nakatani still on). Gomez could wind up on one of the Pletcher horses, if he were to leave Mott's colt.

In fact, these seem to to be the only somewhat confirmed jockey assignments for the derby:

War Pass - C.Velasquez
Pyro - S. Bridgemohan
Big Brown - K. Desormeaux
Recapturetheglory - ET Baird
Smooth Air - Manny Cruz
Visionaire - Jose Lezcano
Adriano - Edgar Prado
Gayego - Mike Smith

Also, you can add Alex Solis to riding Bob Black Jack. He committed late last week.

[bogeydaman]

[quote=DaHoss9698]adriano was horrible on dirt in the FOY, and that race has came back to be a horrible race QUOTE]

As mentioned from another poster, Adriano came back to win. Also Monba was in the FOY (won the Bluegrass). Other horses that came back and "ran respectively / well" include Golden Spikes (2nd in Hawthorne Stakes), Court Vision (3rd in Wood), Kentucky Bear (3rd in Bluegrass). Thats almost 1/2 the field that came back and hit the board in G1/G2 stakes in their next starts. Not sure how that translates to a horrible race?

Funny how things change in 2 months. The week of the race everyone on this board was amazed at the depth of that field. Now it is a horrible race? I think when you go back and look at that field at the end of the year at least 3/4 of this field will win a graded stakes race this year.