War Pass out with fracture

[Monarchos1]

Haven't seen this online yet, but War Pass is off the Derby trail with a fracture, presumably suffered in the Wood Memorial.

[hectic_1978]

Looks like the courier journal has it up.

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/...04/1002/SPORTS

[Pedigree Ann]

Surprise, surprise.

[TheSpyder]

Steve was just saying the other day how few have dropped out compared to most years......advantage Big Brown with one pace pressure gone (hey that's my opinion).

Spyder

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Surprise, surprise.

Extending your redboarding buffoonery to injuries now?

That's precious.

[whodey17]

This quote is precious.....

“It’s been an uphill battle this year, what can I tell you,” Zito said this morning by phone. “Just a struggle,unfortunately. He’s a great horse who just had obstacle after obstacle."

The obstacle was Zito. I knew he would run this horse in the ground. Everyone knew he wasn't going to get the longer distances but Zito kept on going with him and broke him down.

Good job by War Pass to accomplish what he did despite of his trainer. Sad day for the horse and hopefully he will recover.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by whodey17

This quote is precious.....

“It’s been an uphill battle this year, what can I tell you,” Zito said this morning by phone. “Just a struggle,unfortunately. He’s a great horse who just had obstacle after obstacle."

The obstacle was Zito. I knew he would run this horse in the ground. Everyone knew he wasn't going to get the longer distances but Zito kept on going with him and broke him down.

Good job by War Pass to accomplish what he did despite of his trainer. Sad day for the horse and hopefully he will recover.

And the hard on continues

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by whodey17

This quote is precious.....

“It’s been an uphill battle this year, what can I tell you,” Zito said this morning by phone. “Just a struggle,unfortunately. He’s a great horse who just had obstacle after obstacle."

The obstacle was Zito. I knew he would run this horse in the ground. Everyone knew he wasn't going to get the longer distances but Zito kept on going with him and broke him down.

Good job by War Pass to accomplish what he did despite of his trainer. Sad day for the horse and hopefully he will recover.

What a day for the naysayers?

At what point would you have made a decision differently from what Zito did? It's clear your distaste for Zito blinds you to reality, but where did he make a mistake? The horse's 2YO campaign was perfectly laid out. He brought him back in an easy spot. He ran poorly at Tampa but came out of it OK, then he did what any logical trainer would have, he ran him in the Wood Memorial.

It's perfectly OK to have preferences for some trainer over others and while I'm pissing in the wind even replying to you, why don't you take the blinkers off for a second and realize that injuries happen to horses, even to ones that are being handled with care.

NT

[CSC]

I don't know if it's a coincidence or not, but this is the third freakishly fast Zito trained horse that has its problems.

Bellamy Road, Commentator and now War Pass.

[CSC]

Since I am relatively new here, why does this seemed to have touched a nerve here? It seems to me most of Trainer's mentioned here have had some sort of criticism aimed at them, but none of this depth of reaction...

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by whodey17

This quote is precious.....

“It’s been an uphill battle this year, what can I tell you,” Zito said this morning by phone. “Just a struggle,unfortunately. He’s a great horse who just had obstacle after obstacle."

The obstacle was Zito. I knew he would run this horse in the ground. Everyone knew he wasn't going to get the longer distances but Zito kept on going with him and broke him down.

Good job by War Pass to accomplish what he did despite of his trainer. Sad day for the horse and hopefully he will recover.

The term IMBECILE comes to mind here......and I'm not talking about Mr Zito.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by whodey17

This quote is precious.....

“It’s been an uphill battle this year, what can I tell you,” Zito said this morning by phone. “Just a struggle,unfortunately. He’s a great horse who just had obstacle after obstacle."

The obstacle was Zito. I knew he would run this horse in the ground. Everyone knew he wasn't going to get the longer distances but Zito kept on going with him and broke him down.

Good job by War Pass to accomplish what he did despite of his trainer. Sad day for the horse and hopefully he will recover.

So where should he run him you f#ckin jagoff? The Swale followed by The Bay Shore? Ran him into the ground? He ran 3 races this year, one being basically a workout.

Gotta love public chat boards where even the biggest idiots have their say.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by CSC

Since I am relatively new here, why does this seemed to have touched a nerve here? It seems to me most of Trainer's mentioned here have had some sort of criticism aimed at them, but none of this depth of reaction...

whodey, Eurobounce, whatever you want to call him, is a fervent Zito basher and takes every opportunity to make sure everyone knows this.

That being said, THIS makes things interesting two weeks from today...

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Steve was just saying the other day how few have dropped out compared to most years......advantage Big Brown with one pace pressure gone (hey that's my opinion).

Spyder

Pretty hard to see how it favors Big Brown. If he doesn't rate he doesn't win. Doesn't matter how many horses are on the lead, all you know is you don't want to be there. With Bob Black Jack (109 beyer) in there along with Recapturetheglory (102 beyer) you have two very fast horses that want the lead, both of which have proven they are fast animals but neither looks like they can take it 10f with a quick pace. Horses like Big Brown and Gayego must sit off the pace no matter who is in there or they will be cooked. Churchill Downs is not the front running biased Gulfstream.

The bad thing about War Pass not running is he was going to take a ton of money for a horse that had absolutely zero chance of winning.

[geof]

The Wood was run 2 races after my horse broke down. I think the track had something to do with it. It was deep and the front end was colapsing. They cacelled racing the day before and were working overtime to get it ready for Saturday.........

[Thunder Gulch]

I suspect we've seen the last of War Pass on the track. With races getting longer this year and the 2yo trophy at home, it seems rather unlikely they would even try to get him back.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

I suspect we've seen the last of War Pass on the track. With races getting longer this year and the 2yo trophy at home, it seems rather unlikely they would even try to get him back.

agreed..the article above basically said as much

And this horse’s injury isn’t nearly as several as Brass Hat. So they can come back.

Whether or not he could or would, I don’t know. I kind of doubt very seriously if they will because he’s got such tremendous value as a stallion.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by CSC

I don't know if it's a coincidence or not, but this is the third freakishly fast Zito trained horse that has its problems.

Bellamy Road, Commentator and now War Pass.

Freakishly fast is it's own problem unto itself. Slow horses are not as susceptible to injury.

Anybody here care to give Zito the credit he rightly deserves for x-raying something that many wouldn't?

And finding the problem before the horse blows the ankle apart on the track?

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

I suspect we've seen the last of War Pass on the track. With races getting longer this year and the 2yo trophy at home, it seems rather unlikely they would even try to get him back.

Huh?
I agree that he probably won't be back, but what do you mean by the races getting longer this year? Did I miss something?
Has the 7f King's Bishop been transformed into a 12f prep for the BC marathon?
Is the 8f "Met Mile" now the "Met Five Mile?"
Is the 8.5f Dwyer now a steeplechase event?