Anyone see the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight....

[Late Fires]

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

ror!

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Late Fires

I had the fight 115-112 for Calzaghe, but there were 4 rounds that I found very difficult to score. I gave 2 to BHop and 2 to Calzaghe, so I can see DrugS' dad and others thinking that Hopkins won.

Yeah, not only do judges tend to score fights comparitively - but they also have habits of evening out the tight or close boring rounds where not much happens.

In the past - there would be rounds where Hopkins would fight well for a good 25 seconds and just frustrate his opponet the rest of the round. It would appear that his rival is busier and trying harder - but Hopkins would land a few clean effective punches while his rival wouldn't land any. If scored correctly, those are no doubt about it rounds for him.

There is temptation to score those to the guy who looks to be trying harder, especially if he had been doing poorly earlier - or if you've already scored one or more similar actionless rounds to Hopkins.

[mclem10011]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

No way that was a split decision. Calzaghe won the fight. I'm not sure what the judge that gave the fight to Hopkins was watching.

Nothing uglier than a Bernard Hopkins fight.

My 4 year old daughter kept asking me why the guy in the blue kept pushing them apart. Even she would rather see boxing than constant wrestling and clinching.

I just watched the fight on tape. I agree Joe Calzaghe won the fight, he was the more aggressive of the 2. Hopkins was constantly clinching, no freakin clue either Bigs what that lady judge was watching. It was a boring fight, which I blame on Bernard (nothing new), his comments after the fight were a joke as well. All about him, no credit to Joe, saying "I took him to school"? What was he smoken!

Originally Posted by Late Fires

As usual,
I have
no idea
what
Pee Garden
is talking about.

Either way, the statement that Hopkins is over the hill and should quit is ridiculous. BHop clearly isn't what he once was, but he was very competitive against one of the best 3-4 fighters in the world, wasn't ever hurt, and is still be able to test anyone at 168 or 174. He does a lot of things very well, and I find him interesting to watch. I also have a lot of respect for a guy that has worked his way up from the very bottom to the top. But I guess if Pee Garden thinks it's time to go, he should just hang it up because he lost a close decision to an undefeated fighter.

He stays in fights with good fighters doing
nothing to win. He clinches and tries to counter.
Did you watch the last 5 rounds? He is 43.
And is really pretty much a bore now.

Hopkins v. Hopkins:

Round 1-12 no one throws a punch and they hug.
Kinda like a threesome between Morton, Moss, and
Premature Smoldering.

[Late Fires]

Originally Posted by pgardn

He stays in fights with good fighters doing
nothing to win. He clinches and tries to counter.
Did you watch the last 5 rounds? He is 43.
And is really pretty much a bore now.

Hopkins v. Hopkins:

Round 1-12 no one throws a punch and they hug.
Kinda like a threesome between Morton, Moss, and
Premature Smoldering.

Yeah, I watched all 12 rounds of this fight, where he lost a close split decision to one of the best fighters in the world, and his two previous fights, the ones where he beat a guy who was considered one of the top ten pound for pound fighters in the world, and dominated the top fighter in a new weight class for him at the time. So, considering the results, I'd say he's doing something to win.

I find it interesting to watch him use his experience, toughness and smarts to find ways to win at age 43. And I respect the fact that he's still in great shape physically and mentally, and would never tell him to hang it up, even on a horsey board.

Of course, I'm no expert, like say a teacher from Texas or something.

And
I
have
nothing
to
say
about
your
latest
awful
attempt
at
humor
except

.

Originally Posted by Late Fires

I find it interesting to watch him use his experience, toughness and smarts to find ways to win at age 43. And I respect the fact that he's still in great shape physically and mentally, and would never tell him to hang it up, even on a horsey board.

Ok now.
I can accept this.
He is definitely in very good shape
and he is very smart.

But he was the best at one time.

He is a businessman now imho.
He is not willing to actually try and
win these big fights imo.

But that is my problem. I should just
refuse to watch anymore of his fights.
Which I will now attempt. Even if he
fights another guy like Joe C. who is fun
to watch.

As far as sense of humor...
Pat yourself on the back.
You guys are great. The Peegarden
never gets old.
And since apparently teaching in Texas
is apparently an affront to any sensibility
what is your profession (since you are
nothing like it)?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by pgardn

what is your profession (since you are
nothing like it)?

I know you weren't asking me this....

But it should be known that I was, at one time, one of the all-time least impressive amature boxers in Pennsylvania history.

I looked pretty good in the gym and all - but the fighting part I wasn't so great at.

[Late Fires]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Ok now.
I can accept this.
He is definitely in very good shape
and he is very smart.

But he was the best at one time.

He is a businessman now imho.
He is not willing to actually try and
win these big fights imo.

But that is my problem. I should just
refuse to watch anymore of his fights.
Which I will now attempt. Even if he
fights another guy like Joe C. who is fun
to watch.

As far as sense of humor...
Pat yourself on the back.
You guys are great. The Peegarden
never gets old.
And since apparently teaching in Texas
is apparently an affront to any sensibility
what is your profession (since you are
nothing like it)?

OK - we'll leave it at that and agree to disagree on whether or not he is trying to win fights.

My profession really has nothing to do with this or anything else on a horse racing message board, so I don't bring it up here.

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I know you weren't asking me this....

But it should be known that I was, at one time, one of the all-time least impressive amature boxers in Pennsylvania history.

I looked pretty good in the gym and all - but the fighting part I wasn't so great at.

Cool.
Getting busted in the nose and face
and having to keep your eyes open
is a hell of a lot of fun... eh?

I like boxing, especially divisions other than the heavies
now, because they are really great athletes and
some of the toughest people in sports.

Takes a hell of a lot of guts and you have to be
in superior shape. I have boxed. Just at gyms (San Antonio
is a really big boxing town with all the hispanic boxers).
A really good boxer in the Army showed me a little bit.
(San Antonio also used to be full of military). Never been
so tired in my life. Not to mention that it hurts to get hit
in the face, even with protection.

Really I just like to watch good athletes. Thats how I was drawn to
the horses as well. I played every intramural sport known to man
in college. Sadly I was far superior in Tennis, the sport I probably
like the least now.

[Mortimer]

Oh my God.




The garden sake is aggitated and once again bellows:




















WHODOYOUWORKFOR!!!!!??

[Late Fires]

WHO
DO
YOU
WORK
FOR
!!

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I know you weren't asking me this....

But it should be known that I was, at one time, one of the all-time least impressive amature boxers in Pennsylvania history.

I looked pretty good in the gym and all - but the fighting part I wasn't so great at.

Translation:

He wore white tassels in the gym...





...but would not only lose in a real bout,but had his lunch money pilfered as well.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Late Fires

WHO
DO
YOU
WORK
FOR
!!

I










DON'T












KNOW!!

Originally Posted by Late Fires

OK - we'll leave it at that and agree to disagree on whether or not he is trying to win fights.

My profession really has nothing to do with this or anything else on a horse racing message board, so I don't bring it up here.

OK.

My profession stuff goes back to
the ESPN board. I really dont care
what anybody does. And I usually dont mind
that people take jabs at my profession.
But if they do, I think its only fair that
they present their lofty position.

[Late Fires]

Originally Posted by pgardn

OK.

My profession stuff goes back to
the ESPN board. I really dont care
what anybody does. And I usually dont mind
that people take jabs at my profession.
But if they do, I think its only fair that
they present their lofty position.

I was DrugS' cutman.

Morton.

You are fantastic at the fine art
of manipulation. And I grudgingly admit
you are funny. Obviously bright.

imho, your pestering and need for attention
are mildy endearing. Since I am currently
enthralled with Electric Fields, you want
to start a new thread?

We can call it E-fields, and I can practice
explaining to you, and you can make fun of me.
Cant wait till tomorrow. Its gonna be a fine day
for me.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Late Fires

I was DrugS' cutman.

Let's do this all together...shall we?




Should be fun.



























THUD!!

Originally Posted by Late Fires

I was DrugS' cutman.

If you were mine,
you would get lots of practice.
I could have made you the best.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Morton.

You are fantastic at the fine art
of manipulation. And I grudgingly admit
you are funny. Obviously bright.

imho, your pestering and need for attention
are mildy endearing. Since I am currently
enthralled with Electric Fields, you want
to start a new thread?

We can call it E-fields, and I can practice
explaining to you, and you can make fun of me.
Cant wait till tomorrow. Its gonna be a fine day
for me.

Oh I'm an attention HO....no question.






Don't forget to go into electro magnetic lines of force......wave propogation...


...jerkoffs law.......and those wonderful comparisons of dc vs. ac components such as inductors vs.resistors.



I like building pulses to resist rather than just resisting....don't you?

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

Oh I'm an attention HO....no question.






Don't forget to go into electro magnetic lines of force......wave propogation...


...jerkoffs law.......and those wonderful comparisons of dc vs. ac components such as inductors vs.resistors.



I like building pulses to resist rather than just resisting....don't you?

Personally I am into capacitors.
And you know of Kirchoff.
So either you looked it up quickly
or someone has taught you.

And you remember.

Thats more circuitry stuff.
We will be starting off the yunguns
on charges that dont move and create fields.

Static electricity.

Now the ones taking the AP test. They will
be doing RC circuits.

How do you remember this stuff Morton?