Monday Post-Derby ATR GO STEVE!

[Riot]

GOD BLESS YOU, STEVE BYK, for your first five minutes of discussion.

You nailed it. Period.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by Mumtaz

GOD BLESS YOU, STEVE BYK, for your first five minutes of discussion.

You nailed it. Period.

hahaha...I was getting ready to post this and viola, there it was... you beat me to it.

But yes, Steve, please go get'em, even though it falls on deaf ears, PETA and Ingrid don't care anything at all about people.
I believe in keeping my ENEMIES close, I got my PETA e-mail this am, thought they were slow, expected it by yesterday.
I am in no way a PETA member, I am very ANTI-animal rights.
The chipping away of the iceberg, we both know about that don't we Doc.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by FGFan

hahaha...I was getting ready to post this and viola, there it was... you beat me to it.

But yes, Steve, please go get'em, even though it falls on deaf ears, PETA and Ingrid don't care anything at all about people.
I believe in keeping my ENEMIES close, I got my PETA e-mail this am, thought they were slow, expected it by yesterday.
I am in no way a PETA member, I am very ANTI-animal rights.
The chipping away of the iceberg, we both know about that don't we Doc.

PETA isn't good enough to lick Larry's cowboy boots clean.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by FGFan

hahaha...I was getting ready to post this and viola, there it was... you beat me to it.

But yes, Steve, please go get'em, even though it falls on deaf ears, PETA and Ingrid don't care anything at all about people.
I believe in keeping my ENEMIES close, I got my PETA e-mail this am, thought they were slow, expected it by yesterday.
I am in no way a PETA member, I am very ANTI-animal rights.
The chipping away of the iceberg, we both know about that don't we Doc.

Standing up for Animal Rights is a good thing. This is the problem with PETA. They have turned a worthy cause into a complete joke with their ridiculousness.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Standing up for Animal Rights is a good thing. This is the problem with PETA. They have turned a worthy cause into a complete joke with their ridiculousness.

There is a big difference between animal WELFARE, of which I am and always have been a huge advocate, and then there are animal rights advocates. PETA is linked with domestic terrorist groups that will attack humans in the name of animals. I have literally watched as PETA people handed animals over to known hoarders until animal welfare groups have to step in and then remove 200+ dogs and cats and then we have to go clean up the mess of the animal rights advocates.

So no I don't stand up for animal rights, I am anti-animal rights groups, but I do stand up for animal welfare.

This is part of the problem with these groups, people are not fully enlightened what they sign up for, they think it is a good cause when in fact they have little knowledge of the agenda of these groups.

You should do some research on the difference.

PETA and most of the other animal rights groups would BAN horse racing if they could and will try, this incident is one of the many ways they go about it. Little baby steps until no one realizes they are running at you full steam ahead and something you loved is gone, so they can pet the pretty horses.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by FGFan

There is a big difference between animal WELFARE, of which I am and always have been a huge advocate, and then there are animal rights advocates. PETA is linked with domestic terrorist groups that will attack humans in the name of animals. I have literally watched as PETA people handed animals over to known hoarders until animal welfare groups have to step in and then remove 200+ dogs and cats and then we have to go clean up the mess of the animal rights advocates.

So no I don't stand up for animal rights, I am anti-animal rights groups, but I do stand up for animal welfare.

This is part of the problem with these groups, people are not fully enlightened what they sign up for, they think it is a good cause when in fact they have little knowledge of the agenda of these groups.

You should do some research on the difference.

PETA and most of the other animal rights groups would BAN horse racing if they could and will try, this incident is one of the many ways they go about it. Little baby steps until no one realizes they are running at you full steam ahead and something you loved is gone, so they can pet the pretty horses.

What are you talking about? If you actually read what I wrote, I clearly made the distinction. I'm pro-animal rights, and generally anti-PETA.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

What are you talking about? If you actually read what I wrote, I clearly made the distinction. I'm pro-animal rights, and generally anti-PETA.

I did read what you wrote and you responded and wrote it again.

Let me FTFY:
Standing up for animal WELFARE is a good thing.

Maybe that's what you were trying to say.
Seriously you need to go research the difference.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by FGFan

I did read what you wrote and you responded and wrote it again.

Let me FTFY:
Standing up for animal WELFARE is a good thing.

Maybe that's what you were trying to say.
Seriously you need to go research the difference.

You're definitely right. There's a bigger difference than I thought. My mistake.

The point I was trying to make is that "Ethical Treatment of Animals" is a good thing at its core, but PETA has turned it into a joke and has turned people off of the sentiment because of their absurdity.

[Nascar1966]

I also very much agree with standing up for the rights of all animals. Our family has taken in some dogs that nobody wanted, we just took in a pit bull that we previously had before and gave him back to the vet that we got him from. We heard he was just a few hours away from being put to sleep, My wife and I would not be able to look into the mirror every day if this dog was put to sleep. He has destroyed some more of our furniture but we deal with it. I completely disagree with the way PETA is going about it. This organization is trying to take advantage of a tragic event to get back into the limelight again. Kind of reminds me of Al Sharpton and the rest of his goon squad. If Eight Belles was hurting in any way shape or form she would of been scratched. If her jockey sensed that anything was wrong with the way she warming up for the race, I am very confident that he would of asked for a vet to look her over. Why PETA is trying to blame him is a complete disgrace. He wasn't going to put his life and other jockeys and horses lives at risk. He is a pretty smart jockey for his young age. But I guess PETA is looking to get back into the limelight now that the Michael Vick story has died down.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I also very much agree with standing up for the WELFARE of all animals. Our family has taken in some dogs that nobody wanted, we just took in a pit bull that we previously had before and gave him back to the vet that we got him from. We heard he was just a few hours away from being put to sleep, My wife and I would not be able to look into the mirror every day if this dog was put to sleep. He has destroyed some more of our furniture but we deal with it. I completely disagree with the way PETA is going about it. This organization is trying to take advantage of a tragic event to get back into the limelight again. Kind of reminds me of Al Sharpton and the rest of his goon squad. If Eight Belles was hurting in any way shape or form she would of been scratched. If her jockey sensed that anything way wrong with the way she warming up for the race, I am very confident that he would of asked for a vet to look her over. Why PETA is trying to blame him is a complete disgrace. He wasn't going to put his life and other jockeys and horses lives at risk. He is a pretty smart jockey for his young age. But I guess PETA is looking to get back into the limelight now that the Michael Vick story has died down.

Let me FTFY too...
I'm glad you took the pitty back, whats a little bit of furniture anyway...hahaha.
I am a huge advocate for Pit bulls and other large power breeds.
And I agree with all that you said.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You're definitely right. There's a bigger difference than I thought. My mistake.

The point I was trying to make is that "Ethical Treatment of Animals" is a good thing at its core, but PETA has turned it into a joke and has turned people off of the sentiment because of their absurdity.

I'm glad you see my point, we do agree.....
All animalls should be treated ethically. Unfortunately PETA took that name and they are a very, very bad group.
Actually during the huge animal response during Katrina PETA was shunned and banned by most of the responders and animal welfare groups.
There are many groups that truly are about animal welfare, are not part of the lunatic fringe element and do very good things.