look for kent d

hoovesupsideyourhead · #1 05-22-2008, 03:16 PM

to be riding abit "safe" for the next two weeks.....

MaTH716 · #2 05-22-2008, 03:53 PM

I understand what you are saying Hooves. But like in football, when you try to play safe and not get injured is usually the time when you get hurt. There are some many factors out of his control, I think you will see him continue to ride the same way. Maybe just a few less claimers in the next 2 weeks.

3kings · #3 05-22-2008, 09:31 PM

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to be riding abit "safe" for the next two weeks.....

I was thinking the same thing. He will probably take fewer mounts and only horses he and his agent think are very live.

hockey2315 · #4 05-22-2008, 10:13 PM

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I was thinking the same thing. He will probably take fewer mounts and only horses he and his agent think are very live.

I disagree . . . but I hope one of his horses tomorrow is live

blackthroatedwind · #5 05-23-2008, 12:14 AM

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I disagree . . . but I hope one of his horses tomorrow is live

They don't look too live to me.

hockey2315 · #6 05-23-2008, 01:35 AM

Even the one who looks like lone speed?

blackthroatedwind · #7 05-23-2008, 08:22 AM

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Even the one who looks like lone speed?

She was lone speed last time and caved readily. Why is today going to be different? And, aren't you worried that one of the two inside might have speed?

I don't completely disagree with you, and am guessing you see that her better races were at Belmont, I'm just wondering how much horse she really is. But, I guess she could win. I'm just sort of married to another horse in the race....but unfortunately one with no speed.

hockey2315 · #8 05-23-2008, 08:47 AM

The last one was longer and Ochre's not a bad horse (even though she crushed this one). . . The 6 seconds are obviously something to worry about but at least her win came at Belmont. I guess the 1 and 2 could have speed but it was a tough read for me. . .

hoovesupsideyourhead · #9 05-23-2008, 09:00 AM

you will not see kent hitting any small holes or ripping it up the rail in tight for a wile...imo

ateamstupid · #10 05-23-2008, 09:09 AM

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The last one was longer and Ochre's not a bad horse (even though she crushed this one). . . The 6 seconds are obviously something to worry about but at least her win came at Belmont. I guess the 1 and 2 could have speed but it was a tough read for me. . .

I don't like her. She'll be way too short of a price for a 15/1-6-2 horse. I'd try to beat Backseat Rhythm as well, probably using Thiella and Borrowing Base.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #11 05-23-2008, 09:22 AM

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I don't like her. She'll be way too short of a price for a 15/1-6-2 horse. I'd try to beat Backseat Rhythm as well, probably using Thiella and Borrowing Base.

i give born to be a good shot..

ateamstupid · #12 05-23-2008, 09:36 AM

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i give born to be a good shot..

I don't see it, but whatever floats your boat.

hockey2315 · #13 05-23-2008, 09:50 AM

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I don't like her. She'll be way too short of a price for a 15/1-6-2 horse. I'd try to beat Backseat Rhythm as well, probably using Thiella and Borrowing Base.

Ya - I know what you're saying but her win did come here with Kent (for what that's worth). . . I expect Thiella to get bet down and don't really see where she ever ran a race worthy of the price she'll probably be. All the DRF guys like her and Clement/Gomez will draw money. Borrowing Base was the other horse I liked a little in here besides the 6, but I can't take a price that low on Samyn/Quick. No wins and only two on the board turf finishes makes her unappealing to me too.

I wouldn't bet Born to Be at 3-1 if my life depended on it. Shouldn't mind the distance but her previous form is nothing special and Matz horses get overbet sometimes. . .

philcski · #14 05-23-2008, 10:01 AM

There's one I like in the 8th today quite a bit- Red Hot Bullet @ 12-1 ML. Came home in :12 flat last out to win going away at Keeneland, and a repeat of that performance at the same trip would be very competitive.

the_fat_man · #15 05-23-2008, 10:13 AM

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There's one I like in the 8th today quite a bit- Red Hot Bullet @ 12-1 ML. Came home in :12 flat last out to win going away at Keeneland, and a repeat of that performance at the same trip would be very competitive.

I thought she ran well also; though I don't necessarily think her last 1/8 was a noteworthy as you do and there were a few others coming with her late. There are a BUNCH of cut back horses in there today. Horses like Cato Major, for example, that bid in longer races.

hockey2315 · #16 05-23-2008, 11:39 AM

My horse in the 7th probably moves up a little if the turf is really still "good."

philcski · #17 05-23-2008, 12:59 PM

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I thought she ran well also; though I don't necessarily think her last 1/8 was a noteworthy as you do and there were a few others coming with her late. There are a BUNCH of cut back horses in there today. Horses like Cato Major, for example, that bid in longer races.

I also think Cato Major is interesting on the cutback, would be the other one I'd play at the ML. we definitely have the cold trainer angle locked up on this pair... Kimmel 5-83 and Jolley 1-17, ugh

hockey2315 · #18 05-23-2008, 01:07 PM

Jolley did have a high-priced winner yesterday, though. . .

the_fat_man · #19 05-23-2008, 01:17 PM

Look at this race. It's a 'wipeout otherwise". Born to Be, in today's 7th, was also in it.

In terms of ground covered Cato Major ran 46 feet more than the winner. This makes sense as she was chasing wide the entire race. Born to Be, on the other hand, like all of Matz' horses, was sucking up INSIDE until early stretch when she came out and put in a nice late run, without changing leads. Hard to believe she ran 19 feet more than the winner, as she was on the hedge till after they entered.

In any event, Cato Major bids at the mile point and can't sustain it. However, Kent gave up very early with her and she was eased to the wire, almost losing 2nd. Grape Cottage, trying to move at the same time, bounced like a ball and ran terribly next time out at CD.

As for Red Hot Bullet: she needs to be good to deal with that wide turn and long stretch today. It might intimidate her.

VOL JACK · #20 05-23-2008, 01:26 PM

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Jolley did have a high-priced winner yesterday, though. . .

that's his second winner of the year, that i have seen. Like seeing a falling star twice in the same month.