Jeremy Rose - Page 6

The Indomitable DrugS · #**101** 06-24-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He is truly one of a kind

I almost decided to take a poll on where Krebs spends his other hour each day..

A.) Sleeping
B.) Strip Club
C.) At the barn
D.) Eating
E.) Banging Jayne Vaders

But my polls are pretty weak.

parsixfarms · #**102** 06-24-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And I am for throwing the book at guys who use illegal stuff. If I use Elephant juice and get caught I deserve life. But they arent catching those kind of guys and that kind of stuff and all the crap that is being spewed in the media doesnt come close to getting that situation under control. Bill Finley wants to get rid of Lasix. I want to get rid of Bill Finley.

I agree with everything you said, including the Bill Finley part. Isn't the real problem today is that, if you got caught with elephant juice, you'd likely get a one year suspension that, if you agreed to no appeals, would be reduced to six months (and whether you had a past history would have no bearing on the length of the penalty imposed).

freddymo · #**103** 06-24-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I've never suggested that trainers have it easy. God knows, I appreciate the long, hard hours that you guys put in, often for relatively modest pay. Quite the contrary, I fully recognize that suspensions hurt the "little guys" more than the "big guys." They don't have the financial wherewithal to contest (and subsequently appeal) the penalties, and then they face the possibility of the horses going elsewhere as their assistants may not be in a position to run the operation in the head trainer's absence.

Is Gary Sciacca a Big little guy or a Big Big guy? Sorry it was such a softball

parsixfarms · #**104** 06-24-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Is Gary Sciacca a Big little guy or a Big Big guy? Sorry it was such a softball

Both, but in different ways.

freddymo · #**105** 06-24-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TalkToTheHoof

http://racing.bloodhorse.com/article/45859.htm

Jeremy Rose Handed Six-Month Suspension
Email Print RSS Date Posted: June 24, 2008
Last Updated: June 24, 2008

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Jockey Jeremy Rose was suspended for six months following a steward’s hearing the morning of June 24 for whipping his mount Appeal to the City in the face during the third race at Delaware Park June 23.

In the chart footnotes for the five-furlong claiming contest on the turf, it states, “Appeal to the City stalked the pace inside, angled off the rail to challenge into the stretch, steadied outside the winner in the furlong grounds, then weakened before shying after being struck with the whip late.”

According to John Wayne, executive director of the Delaware Thoroughbred Racing Commission, the horse experienced some hemorrhaging in its eye due to contact with Rose’s whip.

This kid should be forced to muck fn stalls for 8 bucks an hour 40 hours a week...F him.. You guys want owners thrown in jail because one of their horses breaksdown.. This idiot is a PETA poster boy

Cannon Shell · #**106** 06-24-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I agree with everything you said, including the Bill Finley part. Isn't the real problem today is that, if you got caught with elephant juice, you'd likely get a one year suspension that, if you agreed to no appeals, would be reduced to six months (and whether you had a past history would have no bearing on the length of the penalty imposed).

I'm pretty sure that elephant juice would get me a lot more than a year. the problem is that we dont know what the new elephant juice is therefore there are no postives for it and therefore no lengthy suspensions.

freddymo · #**107** 06-24-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I'm pretty sure that elephant juice would get me a lot more than a year. the problem is that we dont know what the new elephant juice is therefore there are no postives for it and therefore no lengthy suspensions.

I know the bettors hear are going to pan me but increase the takeout 1 percent for Drug Administration headed by a wonderful group of people.. Once it's on the level the gamblers will come back

Cannon Shell · #**108** 06-24-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

I know the bettors hear are going to pan me but increase the takeout 1 percent for Drug Administration headed by a wonderful group of people.. Once it's on the level the gamblers will come back

The gamblers will return if you put the feds in charge and raise takeout? That would make me leave. Why cant the feds pay for it? If they want to be in charge, fund it. think of the jobs created...

tiggerv · #**109** 06-24-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

I know the bettors hear are going to pan me but increase the takeout 1 percent for Drug Administration headed by a wonderful group of people.. Once it's on the level the gamblers will come back

IMO high takeout is a bigger problem than drugs and cheaters.

MaTH716 · #**110** 06-24-2008, 08:11 PM

I just watched the replay and it really was a dispicable act. There is nothing that Jeremy could say that would defend his actions. I give the board alot of credit for throwing the book at him in a very swift manner. Also for not letting him ride while he appeals. I am not sure if 6 months is excessive, but I do not think it matters, because I think this kid will never ride on a big circuit again. He will either be stuck at some rinky dink track or be forced to go overseas and ride. With the spotlight on the sport and so much negative sentiment swirling, he will be made an example of (not necessarily the right thing to do) but he has no one to blame but himself.

jcs11204 · #**111** 06-24-2008, 08:15 PM

why do the negative things always get all the attention ?
there are big races this weekend, cant we talk about those.

geof · #**112** 06-24-2008, 08:16 PM

I agree, the head-on replay looks brutal.

hockey2315 · #**113** 06-24-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

why do the negative things always get all the attention ?
there are big races this weekend, cant we talk about those.

the jockey took a horse's eye out with the whip. . . this is obviously worth talking about - especially with the current state of the industry. . . I'm all for more handicapping/betting talk too, though.

CSC · #**114** 06-24-2008, 08:28 PM

I have always enjoyed Jeremy Rose as an articulate and fine jockey, it is very surprising upon viewing the head on to try to understand just what the guy was thinking at the moment? There is no question what the intent was, after he hits the horse on the side of the face, he follows that up with 2 left handed smacks for good measure. I wonder how he explained that to the Owner? Yes human beings make mistakes, this one just defies the word 'humane'. Holy smokes...

jcs11204 · #**115** 06-24-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

the jockey took a horse's eye out with the whip. . . this is obviously worth talking about - especially with the current state of the industry. . . I'm all for more handicapping/betting talk too, though.

i know, its just everything with steroids and **** and now this... i would rather talk about betting, and horses... perfect drift this weekend, great races at belmont, i dont know, maybe im wrong.... but this is negative, and it seems like, especially on this site, there is more talk about this, and announcers and IEAH, then there is about the actual horses.

tiggerv · #**116** 06-24-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

perfect drift this weekend

You can occasionally make me laugh PG. My offer on taking Perfect Drift wagers still stands.

pmayjr · #**117** 06-24-2008, 08:37 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NBFmTT50Y0

Here's the youtube link for any of you guys that haven't seen it yet. Fast forward to about 56 seconds into it, and he's the horse on the rail (Rose is wearing lime-green silks).

It's pretty bad... He deserves everything he gets. This incident will make PETA forget the name Gabriel Saez. I hope none of you think this suspension is political either. Knowing the scrutiny this will probably get. PETA will call for a ban of this guy (and whips in racing) anyway.

After his 6 month suspension is over, he'll join Derek Bell and T.D. Houghton at Canterbury Park lol (the 2 guys involved in the Tampa situation...).

Habersham000 · #**118** 06-24-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Right after he hits the horse's face, I think I recall him throwing down a couple more left handed shots to get the point across.

I'm going to slammed here for saying this, but I still don't think it's as bad as y'all do. I'd at least like to hear his explanation before passing judgment.

Are you serious??? someone should take a whip to your eye...one of the dumbest things I have ever read....maybe you should get rid of your boner for rose

NoLuvForPletch · #**119** 06-24-2008, 08:44 PM

It's been more than 24 hrs since this occured and not a peep from this little shitbag. That was Horrendous. Awful. Disgusting. Sick. And he definitely tried to get him again, because taking out his eye the first time wasn't enough.

He'll get his.

jcs11204 · #**120** 06-24-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NBFmTT50Y0

Here's the youtube link for any of you guys that haven't seen it yet. Fast forward to about 56 seconds into it, and he's the horse on the rail (Rose is wearing lime-green silks).

It's pretty bad... He deserves everything he gets. This incident will make PETA forget the name Gabriel Saez. I hope none of you think this suspension is political either. Knowing the scrutiny this will probably get. PETA will call for a ban of this guy (and whips in racing) anyway.

After his 6 month suspension is over, he'll join Derek Bell and T.D. Houghton at Canterbury Park lol (the 2 guys involved in the Tampa situation...).

as for youtube i'd much rathor watch shaq dissing kobe, thats some good stuff