Jeremy Rose - Page 18

parsixfarms · #**341** 07-01-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Revidere

And Contessa defended him on ATR.

I guess that might make Contessa a "jerk-off."

blackthroatedwind · #**342** 07-01-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I guess that might make Contessa a "jerk-off."

Well, I would defend Rose as well, and I'm clearly a jerk-off, so if the shoe fits......

ateamstupid · #**343** 07-01-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Well that video isn't going to help him out in the public eye, that's for sure. It's Delaware Park, 5/12, Race #4. Nearly an identical situation, except Chief Export escaped without nearly losing an eye. Frustrated by his trip on Chief Export, he hammers home 2 lashes real late for no good reason what-so-ever. Frustrated by his trip on Appeal to the City, you know the rest...

Mr. Rose, you are a jackass.

Wow. Just saw that too. What a bitch.

parsixfarms · #**344** 07-01-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Well, I would defend Rose as well, and I'm clearly a jerk-off, so if the shoe fits......

Maybe I was misreading Revidere's post, but it read as if Contessa defended Dutrow on ATR after the NYSRWB slapped Dutrow on the wrist for violating the terms of his suspension.

I agree that Rose's suspension is probably too harsh.

blackthroatedwind · #**345** 07-01-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Maybe I was misreading Revidere's post, but it read as if Contessa defended Dutrow on ATR after the NYSRWB slapped Dutrow on the wrist for violating the terms of his suspension.

I agree that Rose's suspension is probably too harsh.

Now I'm really confused.....did Contessa actually defend Dutrow?

Revidere · #**346** 07-01-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Now I'm really confused.....did Contessa actually defend Dutrow?

Yes. He basically said you cannot hold a trainer responsible for all the activity that goes on in his barn. A regular pity party.

parsixfarms · #**347** 07-01-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Now I'm really confused.....did Contessa actually defend Dutrow?

Don't know, but that suspension would have been about 18 months ago. I'm sure he wouldn't be defending him now.

philcski · #**348** 07-01-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Revidere

Yes. He basically said you cannot hold a trainer responsible for all the activity that goes on in his barn. A regular pity party.

Wait, so if someone sits down at my terminal at work, does some bad trades, and loses a million dollars I'm not responsible??? I'd love to see how that would go over

parsixfarms · #**349** 07-01-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Revidere

Yes. He basically said you cannot hold a trainer responsible for all the activity that goes on in his barn. A regular pity party.

A few years ago, Contessa participated in a panel discussion at an Albany Law School program held annually in Saratoga during August. Sounds like he made similar comments on ATR to those he made that day, to the effect that racing should abolish the trainer's "absolute insurer" rule.

blackthroatedwind · #**350** 07-01-2008, 12:38 PM

I would like to know exactly who Gary thinks should be responsible.

Frankly, one of the biggest problems today, outside of my desperate need for a ticket to see Pearl Jam at the Beacon tonight, is the general lack of personal responsibility.

Revidere · #**351** 07-01-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Wait, so if someone sits down at my terminal at work, does some bad trades, and loses a million dollars I'm not responsible??? I'd love to see how that would go over

That is exactly the analogy I used. That's very funny.

parsixfarms · #**352** 07-01-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I would like to know exactly who Gary thinks should be responsible.

Frankly, one of the biggest problems today, outside of my desperate need for a ticket to see Pearl Jam at the Beacon tonight, is the general lack of personal responsibility.

Since he can't be with all divisions all the time, he doesn't think he should be harshly punished if a mistake happens when he's not there. Of course, if he can't handle the potential problems associated with having 150 horses, perhaps he should cut back on his numbers.

blackthroatedwind · #**353** 07-01-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Since he can't be with all divisions all the time, he doesn't think he should be harshly punished if a mistake happens when he's not there. Of course, if he can't handle the potential problems associated with having 150 horses, perhaps he should cut back on his numbers.

Not trying to pick on Gary, but does he expect a share of the purse if any horse from his different divisions wins?

parsixfarms · #**354** 07-01-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Not trying to pick on Gary, but does he expect a share of the purse if any horse from his different divisions wins?

It's the same with all the big outfits, they want the benefit of their size but none of the potential liabilities that go along with that size. I realize that there is no way to legislate it, but the game would be so much stronger if no trainer had more than 40 horses.

stonegossard · #**355** 07-01-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I would like to know exactly who Gary thinks should be responsible.

Frankly, one of the biggest problems today, outside of my desperate need for a ticket to see Pearl Jam at the Beacon tonight, is the general lack of personal responsibility.

Not sure I can help you with Pearl Jam, but I might have an extra ticket for Motley Crue tonight in West Palm Beach......get back to me soon though...the Crue ticket is a much harder ticket to get than Pearl jam....

blackthroatedwind · #**356** 07-01-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard

Not sure I can help you with Pearl Jam, but I might have an extra ticket for Motley Crue tonight in West Palm Beach......get back to me soon though...the Crue ticket is a much harder ticket to get than Pearl jam....

Step back for a second and realize how funny this post is from someone named Stone Gossard.

justindew · #**357** 07-01-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I would like to know exactly who Gary thinks should be responsible.

Frankly, one of the biggest problems today, outside of my desperate need for a ticket to see Pearl Jam at the Beacon tonight, is the general lack of personal responsibility.

A VH1 poll taken in 1999 ranked Pearl Jam the 2nd best band of the 90s.

Oasis was #1.

True story.

ateamstupid · #**358** 07-01-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew

A VH1 poll taken in 1999 ranked Pearl Jam the 2nd best band of the 90s.

Oasis was #1.

True story.

Exactly why I don't listen to anything VH1 tells me about music.

blackthroatedwind · #**359** 07-01-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew

A VH1 poll taken in 1999 ranked Pearl Jam the 2nd best band of the 90s.

Oasis was #1.

True story.

How's that possible.....Jerry Garcia was still alive for half of the 90s.

SentToStud · #**360** 07-01-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew

A VH1 poll taken in 1999 ranked Pearl Jam the 2nd best band of the 90s.

Oasis was #1.

True story.

Never heard of Oasis. I don't believe it.