what a sharpie

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You cannot be this stupid. Seriously, I don't believe it.

SARCASM.....fool

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You aren't capable of sarcasm....fool.

you're...such an eliteist!

[SentToStud]

There is not one chance in 10,000 that the lipstick-pig reference was not about Palin. Obama's chief pol strategist David Axelrod is the sleaziest poverty pimp ever to get as far as he has. He beat Wolfson and Clinton like they were baby seals during the primary. Axelrod got White elected in Philly and 4 or 5 other black mayors.

Race or gender, he is the sleaziest. And the best. He makes Karl Rove look like a choir boy.

And who uses the term, "lipstick on a pig?" Earrings, I've heard, not lipstick.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

At age 72 and 4x cancer going back 15 years, his life expectancy is about 4-6 years. Good guy; too bad he didn't get it in 2000.

What's in a Number?
Dr. Michael Roizen, developer of the 'Real Age' program, calculates John McCain's biological age--as opposed to his chronological age. The answer may surprise you.

Anne Underwood
NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE
Updated: 1:51 PM ET May 24, 2008
John McCain will turn 72 in August. If elected, that would make him the oldest first-term president in history. Should that worry us? Not necessarily. To Dr. Michael Roizen, co-author of "You: The Owner's Manual," the more relevant information is the candidate's physical condition. After all, some 72-year-olds are fit for a marathon, while others are stuck in their easy chairs.

Roizen is the developer of the Real Age program, which uses an overall health evaluation to determine a person's true biological age (in contrast with his or her actual age). Using McCain's newly released medical records, Roizen walked NEWSWEEK through an assessment of McCain's physical status. Though some of the information Roizen normally requires was not immediately available—including specifics on McCain's diet and exercise habits and his resting pulse rate—the details at hand enabled him to make an initial assessment.

Starting from McCain's chronological age of 71.8, the Real Age program compared him with others of the same age on a variety of measures and added or subtracted years accordingly. And while McCain's own Mayo Clinic internist noted this week that "it is impossible to predict any person's future health," the results of the Real Age assessment should cheer the candidate.

Body Mass Index (weight in relation to height): With a weight of 163 and height of 5 feet, 9 inches, McCain's BMI works out to 24. The desirable range is 19 to 25, and the ideal is 22 to 24. McCain scores. Effect: Half a year younger.

Blood Pressure: At 134 over 84, McCain's blood pressure is not optimal. The American Heart Association advises maintaining a blood pressure below 120 over 80, but Roizen says the ideal is 115 over 75. Keeping blood pressure down is important, because hypertension is the leading reason arteries age, setting the stage for heart attacks, strokes, memory loss, wrinkling of the skin and impotence. McCain's blood pressure is well above the ideal. That said, he has lower blood pressure than most 71-year-olds, who average 145 over 89. Effect: nine-tenths of a year younger.

Cholesterol: Taking cholesterol-lowering drugs, McCain has brought his total cholesterol down to 192. That's below the 200 threshold that starts to worry doctors. His ratio of LDL (bad cholesterol) to HDL (good cholesterol) is fair, with his LDL at 123 and HDL at 42. But his triglycerides are elevated, at 135. Triglycerides are an independent risk factor for arterial aging, wiping out some of the advantage McCain earned for bringing down his total cholesterol. Effect: 1.2 years younger.

Stress Test: McCain's doctor noted that the candidate lasted 10 minutes during a recent cardiovascular stress test. Many younger men last only five or six minutes. Roizen estimates that 10 minutes would give McCain a metabolic equivalent score—a measure of how hard you're working when you exercise compared with resting metabolic rate—of 8.5, considered quite vigorous. Effect: 3 years younger.

Family Longevity: McCain's father died at 70 of cardiac-related problems. But his mother, 96, is still famously campaigning with her son. That shows a good genetic endowment. Effect: 1.5 years younger.

Cancer History: McCain has had four cancerous lesions removed from his skin. Of these, the most serious was the malignant melanoma he suffered in 2000. It was considered "intermediate risk" because of its thickness, but lymph nodes removed at the time showed no sign that the cancer had spread. The fact that he's survived more than five years is a good sign, so his cancer history doesn't add to his Real Age. Effect: 0.

Prostate: The candidate has no sign of prostate cancer, although doctors noted a condition known as benign prostatic hypertrophy (an enlarged prostate). The condition is very common, affecting 80 percent of men his age, and does not forecast cancer. Effect: 0.

Kidney Stones: These could be a concern, but the fact that McCain takes only two mild medications to prevent further stones indicates that his doctors aren't worried about a serious underlying condition. Effect: 0.

Colon polyps: McCain had benign growths removed during a routine colonoscopy in March. Nothing cancerous was detected. Effect: 0.

Arthritis: McCain suffers from degenerative arthritis. Roizen says that would only affect McCain's Real Age if it interfered with his ability to exercise. (Information on McCain's exercise habits was unavailable.) Effect: 0.

Smoking: A former smoker, McCain kicked the habit in 1980. Effect: One year older.

Fitness: McCain makes much of having hiked the Grand Canyon "rim to rim" in 2006. Roizen is not impressed. "Physical fitness comes and goes in about three weeks," he says. "If McCain is not continually active, it doesn't mean much." Effect: Unclear (not enough information).

Monitoring His Health: The fact that McCain goes for regular checkups is an excellent sign. His most recent comprehensive exam was in March. Effect: 2 years younger.

Bottom line: 8.1 years younger, or 63.7 years old.

But the eventual winner of the election—no matter who it is—should be forewarned. Roizen has assessed data on presidential health back to the 1920s and finds that the stress of the job takes a toll. "Every year in office, you age two years," he says. It's not hard to calculate the effect this would have on McCain. After two terms, his calendar age and Real Age would be right back in line.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by geeker2

What's in a Number?
Dr. Michael Roizen, developer of the 'Real Age' program, calculates John McCain's biological age--as opposed to his chronological age. The answer may surprise you.

Anne Underwood
NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE
Updated: 1:51 PM ET May 24, 2008
John McCain will turn 72 in August. If elected, that would make him the oldest first-term president in history. Should that worry us? Not necessarily. To Dr. Michael Roizen, co-author of "You: The Owner's Manual," the more relevant information is the candidate's physical condition. After all, some 72-year-olds are fit for a marathon, while others are stuck in their easy chairs.

Roizen is the developer of the Real Age program, which uses an overall health evaluation to determine a person's true biological age (in contrast with his or her actual age). Using McCain's newly released medical records, Roizen walked NEWSWEEK through an assessment of McCain's physical status. Though some of the information Roizen normally requires was not immediately available—including specifics on McCain's diet and exercise habits and his resting pulse rate—the details at hand enabled him to make an initial assessment.

Starting from McCain's chronological age of 71.8, the Real Age program compared him with others of the same age on a variety of measures and added or subtracted years accordingly. And while McCain's own Mayo Clinic internist noted this week that "it is impossible to predict any person's future health," the results of the Real Age assessment should cheer the candidate.

Body Mass Index (weight in relation to height): With a weight of 163 and height of 5 feet, 9 inches, McCain's BMI works out to 24. The desirable range is 19 to 25, and the ideal is 22 to 24. McCain scores. Effect: Half a year younger.

Blood Pressure: At 134 over 84, McCain's blood pressure is not optimal. The American Heart Association advises maintaining a blood pressure below 120 over 80, but Roizen says the ideal is 115 over 75. Keeping blood pressure down is important, because hypertension is the leading reason arteries age, setting the stage for heart attacks, strokes, memory loss, wrinkling of the skin and impotence. McCain's blood pressure is well above the ideal. That said, he has lower blood pressure than most 71-year-olds, who average 145 over 89. Effect: nine-tenths of a year younger.

Cholesterol: Taking cholesterol-lowering drugs, McCain has brought his total cholesterol down to 192. That's below the 200 threshold that starts to worry doctors. His ratio of LDL (bad cholesterol) to HDL (good cholesterol) is fair, with his LDL at 123 and HDL at 42. But his triglycerides are elevated, at 135. Triglycerides are an independent risk factor for arterial aging, wiping out some of the advantage McCain earned for bringing down his total cholesterol. Effect: 1.2 years younger.

Stress Test: McCain's doctor noted that the candidate lasted 10 minutes during a recent cardiovascular stress test. Many younger men last only five or six minutes. Roizen estimates that 10 minutes would give McCain a metabolic equivalent score—a measure of how hard you're working when you exercise compared with resting metabolic rate—of 8.5, considered quite vigorous. Effect: 3 years younger.

Family Longevity: McCain's father died at 70 of cardiac-related problems. But his mother, 96, is still famously campaigning with her son. That shows a good genetic endowment. Effect: 1.5 years younger.

Cancer History: McCain has had four cancerous lesions removed from his skin. Of these, the most serious was the malignant melanoma he suffered in 2000. It was considered "intermediate risk" because of its thickness, but lymph nodes removed at the time showed no sign that the cancer had spread. The fact that he's survived more than five years is a good sign, so his cancer history doesn't add to his Real Age. Effect: 0.

Prostate: The candidate has no sign of prostate cancer, although doctors noted a condition known as benign prostatic hypertrophy (an enlarged prostate). The condition is very common, affecting 80 percent of men his age, and does not forecast cancer. Effect: 0.

Kidney Stones: These could be a concern, but the fact that McCain takes only two mild medications to prevent further stones indicates that his doctors aren't worried about a serious underlying condition. Effect: 0.

Colon polyps: McCain had benign growths removed during a routine colonoscopy in March. Nothing cancerous was detected. Effect: 0.

Arthritis: McCain suffers from degenerative arthritis. Roizen says that would only affect McCain's Real Age if it interfered with his ability to exercise. (Information on McCain's exercise habits was unavailable.) Effect: 0.

Smoking: A former smoker, McCain kicked the habit in 1980. Effect: One year older.

Fitness: McCain makes much of having hiked the Grand Canyon "rim to rim" in 2006. Roizen is not impressed. "Physical fitness comes and goes in about three weeks," he says. "If McCain is not continually active, it doesn't mean much." Effect: Unclear (not enough information).

Monitoring His Health: The fact that McCain goes for regular checkups is an excellent sign. His most recent comprehensive exam was in March. Effect: 2 years younger.

Bottom line: 8.1 years younger, or 63.7 years old.

But the eventual winner of the election—no matter who it is—should be forewarned. Roizen has assessed data on presidential health back to the 1920s and finds that the stress of the job takes a toll. "Every year in office, you age two years," he says. It's not hard to calculate the effect this would have on McCain. After two terms, his calendar age and Real Age would be right back in line.

....what he said!

[dalakhani]

yeah, Im sure the medical records werent...doctored.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by geeker2

What's in a Number?
Dr. Michael Roizen, developer of the 'Real Age' program, calculates John McCain's biological age--as opposed to his chronological age. The answer may surprise you.

Anne Underwood
NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE
Updated: 1:51 PM ET May 24, 2008
John McCain will turn 72 in August. If elected, that would make him the oldest first-term president in history. Should that worry us? Not necessarily. To Dr. Michael Roizen, co-author of "You: The Owner's Manual," the more relevant information is the candidate's physical condition. After all, some 72-year-olds are fit for a marathon, while others are stuck in their easy chairs.

Roizen is the developer of the Real Age program, which uses an overall health evaluation to determine a person's true biological age (in contrast with his or her actual age). Using McCain's newly released medical records, Roizen walked NEWSWEEK through an assessment of McCain's physical status. Though some of the information Roizen normally requires was not immediately available—including specifics on McCain's diet and exercise habits and his resting pulse rate—the details at hand enabled him to make an initial assessment.

Starting from McCain's chronological age of 71.8, the Real Age program compared him with others of the same age on a variety of measures and added or subtracted years accordingly. And while McCain's own Mayo Clinic internist noted this week that "it is impossible to predict any person's future health," the results of the Real Age assessment should cheer the candidate.

Body Mass Index (weight in relation to height): With a weight of 163 and height of 5 feet, 9 inches, McCain's BMI works out to 24. The desirable range is 19 to 25, and the ideal is 22 to 24. McCain scores. Effect: Half a year younger.

Blood Pressure: At 134 over 84, McCain's blood pressure is not optimal. The American Heart Association advises maintaining a blood pressure below 120 over 80, but Roizen says the ideal is 115 over 75. Keeping blood pressure down is important, because hypertension is the leading reason arteries age, setting the stage for heart attacks, strokes, memory loss, wrinkling of the skin and impotence. McCain's blood pressure is well above the ideal. That said, he has lower blood pressure than most 71-year-olds, who average 145 over 89. Effect: nine-tenths of a year younger.

Cholesterol: Taking cholesterol-lowering drugs, McCain has brought his total cholesterol down to 192. That's below the 200 threshold that starts to worry doctors. His ratio of LDL (bad cholesterol) to HDL (good cholesterol) is fair, with his LDL at 123 and HDL at 42. But his triglycerides are elevated, at 135. Triglycerides are an independent risk factor for arterial aging, wiping out some of the advantage McCain earned for bringing down his total cholesterol. Effect: 1.2 years younger.

Stress Test: McCain's doctor noted that the candidate lasted 10 minutes during a recent cardiovascular stress test. Many younger men last only five or six minutes. Roizen estimates that 10 minutes would give McCain a metabolic equivalent score—a measure of how hard you're working when you exercise compared with resting metabolic rate—of 8.5, considered quite vigorous. Effect: 3 years younger.

Family Longevity: McCain's father died at 70 of cardiac-related problems. But his mother, 96, is still famously campaigning with her son. That shows a good genetic endowment. Effect: 1.5 years younger.

Cancer History: McCain has had four cancerous lesions removed from his skin. Of these, the most serious was the malignant melanoma he suffered in 2000. It was considered "intermediate risk" because of its thickness, but lymph nodes removed at the time showed no sign that the cancer had spread. The fact that he's survived more than five years is a good sign, so his cancer history doesn't add to his Real Age. Effect: 0.

Prostate: The candidate has no sign of prostate cancer, although doctors noted a condition known as benign prostatic hypertrophy (an enlarged prostate). The condition is very common, affecting 80 percent of men his age, and does not forecast cancer. Effect: 0.

Kidney Stones: These could be a concern, but the fact that McCain takes only two mild medications to prevent further stones indicates that his doctors aren't worried about a serious underlying condition. Effect: 0.

Colon polyps: McCain had benign growths removed during a routine colonoscopy in March. Nothing cancerous was detected. Effect: 0.

Arthritis: McCain suffers from degenerative arthritis. Roizen says that would only affect McCain's Real Age if it interfered with his ability to exercise. (Information on McCain's exercise habits was unavailable.) Effect: 0.

Smoking: A former smoker, McCain kicked the habit in 1980. Effect: One year older.

Fitness: McCain makes much of having hiked the Grand Canyon "rim to rim" in 2006. Roizen is not impressed. "Physical fitness comes and goes in about three weeks," he says. "If McCain is not continually active, it doesn't mean much." Effect: Unclear (not enough information).

Monitoring His Health: The fact that McCain goes for regular checkups is an excellent sign. His most recent comprehensive exam was in March. Effect: 2 years younger.

Bottom line: 8.1 years younger, or 63.7 years old.

But the eventual winner of the election—no matter who it is—should be forewarned. Roizen has assessed data on presidential health back to the 1920s and finds that the stress of the job takes a toll. "Every year in office, you age two years," he says. It's not hard to calculate the effect this would have on McCain. After two terms, his calendar age and Real Age would be right back in line.

Right. And everyone knows the average hobbit lives to be 200 years old.

The True Bottom Line: If he tried to get his own health insurance, he couldn't. He's uninsurable.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

yeah, Im sure the medical records werent...doctored.

just like kennedys' weren't....you are a tool...left wing, pissed off eccentric....but that's just a guess

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

just like kennedys' weren't....you are a tool...left wing, pissed off eccentric....but that's just a guess

... and you believe in hobbits.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

... and you believe in hobbits.

...great trilogy,huh?

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

So you had however long to think of the platform McCain's running on, and you came up with.. Stay in Iraq indefinitely. Sweet..

Oh cmon.
Dont touch healthcare.

Lower taxes to stimulate growth.
Continue to bail out Wall Street.
Drill for oil in off limit places in Alaska to supplement our addiction.

These are the major issues right now.

You pretend like the Republicans have no ideas.
They have plenty of ideas. You just dont like them and
thats fine. But to say they have no real platform...

You could not hate them as hard as you do.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

just like kennedys' weren't....you are a tool...left wing, pissed off eccentric....but that's just a guess

And you are sixty five and can't get an erection without medication and hate the fact that the next prez isnt going to be as white as your simple redneck a s s.

Of course..thats just a guess gramps.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Oh cmon.
Dont touch healthcare.

Lower taxes to stimulate growth.
Continue to bail out Wall Street.
Drill for oil in off limit places in Alaska to supplement our addiction.

These are the major issues right now.

You pretend like the Republicans have no ideas.
They have plenty of ideas. You just dont like them and
thats fine. But to say they have no real platform...

You could not hate them as hard as you do.

he's just young...he'll learn after getting burned by some of his heroes!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

And you are sixty five and can't get an erection without medication and hate the fact that the next prez isnt going to be as white as your simple redneck a s s.

Of course..thats just a guess gramps.

not 65...not a red-neck...don't need meds....that Fu<k won't be pres.....and my, aren't WE on the perrennial rag!!
my real age is way less than actual...so there

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

not 65...not a red-neck...don't need meds....that Fu<k won't be pres.....and my, aren't WE on the perrennial rag!!
my real age is way less than actual...so there

You are such a liar. You are sooo on Big blue. Its cool though. Bob Dole was your hero.

Hey, it doesnt matter. Just keep lying to your wife so she doesnt think you are less of a man.

For the record I dont think it makes you any less of a man.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

...great trilogy,huh?

lol.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

There is not one chance in 10,000 that the lipstick-pig reference was not about Palin. Obama's chief pol strategist David Axelrod is the sleaziest poverty pimp ever to get as far as he has. He beat Wolfson and Clinton like they were baby seals during the primary. Axelrod got White elected in Philly and 4 or 5 other black mayors.

Race or gender, he is the sleaziest. And the best. He makes Karl Rove look like a choir boy.

And who uses the term, "lipstick on a pig?" Earrings, I've heard, not lipstick.

Actually Bruce... I have heard that term my whole life.






















although many times it was from my friends refering to my ex-wife

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

You are such a liar. You are sooo on Big blue. Its cool though. Bob Dole was your hero.

Hey, it doesnt matter. Just keep lying to your wife so she doesnt think you are less of a man.

For the record I dont think it makes you any less of a man.

Firstly, I don't feel the need to lie on a message board. Secondly, I hate Michigan and UCLA(except in BB) Bob Dole was a hero long before he was a household name,as I'm sure you're aware. Thirdly...I forgot...hafta go take some pills

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Firstly, I don't feel the need to lie on a message board. Secondly, I hate Michigan and UCLA(except in BB) Bob Dole was a hero long before he was a household name,as I'm sure you're aware. Thirdly...I forgot...hafta go take some pills

[GPK]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm retiring from the political threads before I go postal. I just hope we all learned a lot from the last 8 years. Some of us haven't, which is sad, but if I fuc.ked up twice, I would pretend it didn't happen also. Stay gold guys.

I'm leaving too. Gotta be a good junkyard thread somewhere around here.