So..no more free speech?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

ABSOLUTELY

Then you lose!!! LOL

Timmigirvan's original quote:

"the holocaust had nothing to do with religion"

Now you are saying:

It had very, very little to do with RELIGIOUS beliefs


This is the post that i called dumb.

Now lets see you talk around this.

You lose.

Sorry

Originally Posted by dalakhani

It had very, very little to do with RELIGIOUS beliefs

Its a simple answer Pgardn. Are these your words? They are. And if they are....

YOU LOSE.

Ok then.
You tell me how the Jew's religious beliefs lead them to be persecuted. What exactly about Jewish religious beliefs pissed off Hitler? The Tora, the belief that Jesus Christ was not the messiah, what? I told you what I believe about the Jewish culture led to their demise. I will add more. They did very little to defend themselves because they had found a very good spot in German socieity. The Jews on the whole did not really believe that Hitler was hell bent on their ruin, in part because of their willingness to hold on to their social position. The Jews kept telling themselves as things got worse and worse that it would get better because they figured they had a lot to lose. They did not realize they would lose all their possessions and their lives. Jews actually have very large arguements over the unwillingness to fight back.

Religious beliefs were NOT central.
And if they were define the specific beliefs.... PLEASE!

[timmgirvan]

[quote=dalakhani]Then you lose!!! LOL

Timmigirvan's original quote:

"the holocaust had nothing to do with religion"

Now you are saying:

It had very, very little to do with RELIGIOUS beliefs


This is the post that i called dumb.

Now lets see you talk around this.

You lose.

Sorry[/QUOTE

so 2 words are the diff between dumb and smart? Well, any credibilty you had is gone for me. But, hey, you gotta look yourself in the mirror everyday.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Ok then.
You tell me how the Jew's religious beliefs lead them to be persecuted. What exactly about Jewish religious beliefs pissed off Hitler? The Tora, the belief that Jesus Christ was not the messiah, what?

Why cant you just accept it? You blindly defended an indefensible point. Now you are going back to the distortion playbook.

Unless of course, very little equates to nothing in your school system. I would hope that it doesnt.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So, who posted this exactly?



You were begging for pity last night. It just carried over to today. look, I'm sorry that YOUR words have caused you some flack here, but you have no on to blame but yourself. Pgardn, in his own way was attempting to defend you. You needed it, remember. So, when I asked him if he thought you made dumb statements, he offered up that response. So, my point is, even the guy who is trying to defend you thinks you're a dumbfucl<. he just doesn't want to "pile on." Should I post a picture also?

I wasn't seeking a sympathetic response...I offered a reason(my reason)
Keep your pictures under the mattress....don't forget your meds,Hossy

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Then you lose!!! LOL

Timmigirvan's original quote:

"the holocaust had nothing to do with religion"

Now you are saying:

It had very, very little to do with RELIGIOUS beliefs


This is the post that i called dumb.

Now lets see you talk around this.

You lose.

Sorry

Silence is the ultimate prize. A humble admission of being wrong might go a little further.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Why cant you just accept it? You blindly defended an indefensible point. Now you are going back to the distortion playbook.

Unless of course, very little equates to nothing in your school system. I would hope that it doesnt.

Please quit skirting the question.
I have given you some of what I believe.
Again:
Please explain how JEWISH RELIGIOUS BELIEFS irked Hitler enough for him to cook up the final solution. Please answre the question. You said the Jews were persecuted because of their RELIGION. Religion as I know it is characterized by certain beliefs about the creator, how to go to heaven... etcc... Please do this.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Please quit skirting the question.
I have given you some of what I believe.
Again:
Please explain how JEWISH RELIGIOUS BELIEFS irked Hitler enough for him to cook up the final solution. Please answre the question. You said the Jews were persecuted because of their RELIGION. Religion as I know it is characterized by certain beliefs about the creator, how to go to heaven... etcc... Please do this.

LOL. Poor Pgardn. Are you trying to change the argument? 7th grade debate rears its ugly head.

You already lost pal. Come up with something new.

[Honu]

What pissed Hitler off was that after WW1 Gremany as a whole was a depressed place , except for the buisness smart Jewish folks who were educated and more buisness savvy than the rest of the tired broken down war vets . He saw the Jews (even if you just had a Jewish great great grandparent you were considered a Jew) as the one's taking money , jobs and food out of the German people's pockets and mouths. It was his only stance , his only platform to make himself a leader , he had to create a hatred of something or someone to get the people going.The Jews were an easy target , they had money , they owned business's , and they for the most part were doing the most good and he pounced on the chance that he could get the German people to revolt against them. It didnt matter if you were a practicing Jew or not you were a target , if you owned a buisness or appeared to have money weather you were 1/8 Jew or 100% you were to be hated.
I really think it didnt matter that they only believed in God and not Jesus , or if they were a Catholic Jew , it just mattered that you had Jew in you and it was Hitlers only way to become leader was to get the German people to hate them , which he did.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

How about if i bought you some crayons and a new coloring book?

Send 'em to Hossy...he'll appreciate them

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Danzig brought up Hitlers' interest in the Occult, not I.

this is incorrect. someone else said hitler was into satanism, and i called that into question.

[timmgirvan]

Hey banker-boy and Horsey: Honu just earned hisself 20 bucks for that post!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

this is incorrect. someone else said hitler was into satanism, and i called that into question.

As you wish, my dear Ziggy, you did mention the Thule Society,though.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

As you wish, my dear Ziggy, you did mention the Thule Society,though.

sure didn't.

from post #192 in 'world wants obama' thread, written by timmi:


"If you get your head outta DailyKos you might find out that Hitler was into Satanism and was trying to create his Master race, thereby needing to cleanse his country from any mixed blood from Jewish, Polish and other lesser
citizens that didn't meet with their criteria....you could look it up"

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

sure didn't.

from post #192 in 'world wants obama' thread, written by timmi:


"If you get your head outta DailyKos you might find out that Hitler was into Satanism and was trying to create his Master race, thereby needing to cleanse his country from any mixed blood from Jewish, Polish and other lesser
citizens that didn't meet with their criteria....you could look it up"

Yes I did say Satanism, and not the Occult..most don't know the diff. If you didn't mention the Thule Society(from the books you pulled down off the shelf) then I apologize profusely.

[Danzig]

"Amongst many of the stories that go with Adolph Hitler is that he was involved in a secret satanist society called the thule group"

post #262, by dalakhani, in the same 'world wants obama' thread. i remember the discussion, so i went back and looked it up to make sure i was remembering correctly that it was others who made those comments.

[Mortimer]

Not to pretend to be smarter than The Teacher and the Doorknob ( make a great book title)..but you are quite wrong, Dala.



The Jewish people were put into horrifying conditions because they all had ,as very bad luck would have , a common flaw in Hitlers eyes.The odds on this are tremendous..ie...that millions of people who were of one religion and way of life would all display the same Hitlerthink flaw.



But it had absolutely nothing to do with religious belief.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Yes I did say Satanism, and not the Occult..most don't know the diff. If you didn't mention the Thule Society(from the books you pulled down off the shelf) then I apologize profusely.

i looked thru the books on my shelf, and as i posted then, there was no mention of occult, satanism, thule, or anything else in that vein.

[Danzig]

i may be incorrect, or oversimplifying, but isn't what makes a person jewish their religious belief? i don't see how you can say that hitlers annihilation of so many jews had nothing to do with their religion. doesn't it have everything to do with it? down thru the centuries, many countries at one point or another expelled their jewish citizens, or encouraged much worse. the group as a whole always seemed an easy target, a scapegoat for whatever ailed the populace as a whole.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i looked thru the books on my shelf, and as i posted then, there was no mention of occult, satanism, thule, or anything else in that vein.

Like I said..sorry to draw you into this...obviously it's banker-boys' fault.