10/4 (BEL): Jamaica (Gr. II); Frizette & Champagne (Gr. I's)

[Kasept]

6th (3:39) Jamaica H. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Slambino Hill C 114 L
2 Wesley Prado E S 117 L
3 Thou Swell Samyn J L 115 Blk-On L
4 Gio Ponti Garcia Alan 119 L
5 Court Vision Velazquez J R 117 L
6 Ready's Echo Coa E M 114 L
7 Roman Tiger Maragh R 115 L



8th (4:43) Frizette S. (G1)

1 Mile | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Sky Diva Dominguez R A 120 L
2 Royal Ballade Coa E M 120 L
3 War Echo Hill C 120 L
4 Miss Ocean City Maragh R 120 L
5 Persistently Garcia Alan 120 L
6 Collegiate Prado E S 120 Blk-On L
7 Winning Brew Espinoza J L 120 Blk-On L
8 Coffee in Bed Castro E 120 L
9 Heavenly Vision Espinoza V 120 L
10 Gemswick Park Velazquez J R 120 L



9th (5:15) Champagne S. (G1)

1 Mile | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Break Water Edison Migliore R 122 L
2 Cribnote Maragh R 122 Blk-On L
3 Vineyard Haven Prado E S 122 L
4 Hello Broadway Coa E M 122 L
5 Girolamo Garcia Alan 122 L
6 A. P. Cardinal Hill C 122 L
7 Ventana Espinoza V 122 L
8 Brave Victory Sanchez J 122 L
9 Gone Astray Dominguez R A 122 L
10 Munnings Velazquez J R 122 L

[Indian Charlie]

I had to reread the Fizzlette entries. First time through, I thought I read Sutra's name on there.

Weird.

[blackthroatedwind]

Other than Persistently, the Frizette is pretty weak, however the Champagne is a great race. The definitive 2YO race this year ( not run on turf or fake turf ).

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Other than Persistently, the Frizette is pretty weak, however the Champagne is a great race. The definitive 2YO race this year ( not run on turf or fake turf ).

The Champagne sould be a real nice race....there's five in there that I really like....

Blu is likely gonna need more than a little luck to get his filly's pic taken in the Frizette.... wishing him luck nonetheless

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Other than Persistently, the Frizette is pretty weak, however the Champagne is a great race. The definitive 2YO race this year ( not run on turf or fake turf ).

The Champagne will probaly turn out to be better than the BC Juvy.
I wish Charitable Man was running, would be a great race for sure then.

Gonna predict that Cribnote will be severly over bet.

The Champagne is a race worth getting excited over, some real horses with real futures in here.

[the_fat_man]

Hope this means Gomez won't be getting on GP any longer (I wish). What a brutal ride last time out. Good horses don't deserve that ****.

does anyone know why Wesley was 19 out of it in his last ?

This card is actually better then last Saturday IMO

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Other than Persistently, the Frizette is pretty weak, however the Champagne is a great race. The definitive 2YO race this year ( not run on turf or fake turf ).

shes a nice filly, but the 1 and 10 will both make her earn this

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by hrfan

shes a nice filly, but the 1 and 10 will both make her earn this

There's plenty of speed in this race.
It actually looks like its going to set up perfectly for Persistently.

[Betsy]

Does anyone think War Echo has a shot? I guess it's a crapshoot with some of these fillies who have just come off their maiden breakers........

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

In the Jamaica, I know he's not as good as Gio Ponti, but what if Thou Swell is able to get loose early? Weaver has understandably cooled down, but he should be at least 25 or so to 1. Worth a few bucks for me.

I like Ventana in the Champagne. I know he sat a nice trip last out, but I was impressed with the way he kicked away. Break Water Edison is a little intersting to me as well, with a more patient ride.

I think people make a mistake of being overly concerned with loose speed in turf races.....especially on fair ground with give like we have at Belmont. Thou Swell is WAY out of his league tomorrow and won't have any real impact on the race. Take a look at today's 8th at Belmont and Baron Von Tap for a good example.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't disagree he's out of his league. I said as much in my post. But he's worth a few bucks to me at huge odds, especially considering I have no real opinion on anyone else.

Gio Ponti and Court Vision will most likely run one-two. Why waste your money fighting that?

Slambino will beat Thou Swell.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss1985

I think you're reading into this a bit much. I'm going to bet maybe 5 bucks on the horse. Call it an action bet if you'd like. Geez...

I was just responding to the opinion you posted......I wasn't really thinking about how much you were betting.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Other than Persistently, the Frizette is pretty weak, however the Champagne is a great race. The definitive 2YO race this year ( not run on turf or fake turf ).

you think the voters will see it this way as well?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

you think the voters will see it this way as well?

I really don't care.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I really don't care.

me neither, it just matters if I can make money on the race, whether its called the Champagne or 5th at Los Al.

But your response just echoes my intended point that the sport as its currently organized yields a giant "who cares".

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

me neither, it just matters if I can make money on the race, whether its called the Champagne or 5th at Los Al.

But your response just echoes my intended point that the sport as its currently organized yields a giant "who cares".

Why, because the Eclipse Awards are relatively meaningless? So what. The game is funded by bettors. That is who and what I care most about. That, thankfully, has nothing to do with who wins Eclipse Awards.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Why, because the Eclipse Awards are relatively meaningless? So what. The game is funded by bettors. That is who and what I care most about. That, thankfully, has nothing to do with who wins Eclipse Awards.

true, maybe its me but it was alot more fun when the races seemed to me something a little bit more.