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10-21-2008, 06:35 PM
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Good Point but this is SA there is not another track in the country that has this type of Suface(Pro Ride). SO I am willing to make a stand Againt Zenyatta being she will be in the 3/5 range. Right now I am leaning towards Cocoa Beach at 8-1ML that is a square price on a filly who we don't know how good she could be. I love these fillies that come From South America (although she made a trip to Dubai First) 
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10-21-2008, 07:45 PM
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She's the test case for synthetics vs. real dirt
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10-22-2008, 03:20 AM
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Carriage Trail over Zenyatta with Hystericalady third and a superfecta moneymaking Santa Teresita running fourth.
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10-22-2008, 09:15 AM
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10-22-2008, 12:03 PM
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I just looked over this field. This is a good group of fillies and mares!!! Just exactly who has Zenyatta beat anyway? Ginger Punch and Hystericalady? Is it possible Ginger Punch just had an off day that day? Hystericalady can't win on synth....
but can Music Note? can Cocoa Beach? Can Carriage Trail transfer her Keeneland form to Santa Anita? Zenyatta beat Model by just one length. Carriage Trail beat her by more than 7. Hmmmm So many questions!!
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10-22-2008, 12:18 PM
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I am concerned that CT is a Kee freak, and this surface is much different then Keeneland. I think Music Note or Cocoa Beach is a much better play in this spot.
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10-23-2008, 11:28 AM
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10-23-2008, 11:32 AM
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Toss at your own pearl, while her BEST races were on dirt, he synethics are HALF as bad as people are making them out to be
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10-23-2008, 12:00 PM
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I am a huge Zenyatta fan, but I am starting to question her a little bit based on who she has faced. Her Oaklawn race was real big, but she was cycling to that effort and Ginger Punch obviously wasn't on her game that day, and I think Ginger Punch likes the synethics, she ran a top on the times that she went to them (at Keeneland)...I don't really have many opinions yet, using the plane ride to sort out everything... The one thing I am struggling with right now is the Woodbine shippers, because there are a couple that absolutely lay over their fields, figure-wise.
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10-23-2008, 12:28 PM
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2nd, DO NOT trust Woodbine figures. they are consistently too high, like Delaware- I've been fooled too many times by shippers to Saratoga, Churchill, or the BC.
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10-23-2008, 12:31 PM
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Friday there isn't much that is 'interesting' from what I can tell. I am going to use it to form opinions for Saturday, which I see multiple things that I am interested in. I don't have that 'can't miss' play that I am salivating over. Last year it was Shamiden to run 1-2, don't have that this year.
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10-23-2008, 12:50 PM
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More rooting interests than gambling opinions, although Forever Together will get a bet from me for sure. Besides that, maybe a few fliers. Have fun out there dude, don't lose your shirt.
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10-23-2008, 12:55 PM
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Honestly, I like the new setup, I can never figure out fillies/mares and them having their own day helps me, and don't ask me why that is, it is just one of those things, can't figure out woman
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10-23-2008, 01:03 PM
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Can I get a GUS JOHNSON CALL please.... AAAAAAAHAAAAAAA!!!
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10-23-2008, 07:37 PM
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If you like Hystericalady, Santa Teresita finished right with her last time and will be twice the odds. I think Santa Teresita could hit the board here.
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10-24-2008, 02:12 AM
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10-24-2008, 02:13 AM
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10-24-2008, 12:03 PM
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I can understand playing against her in mutuals but I can't see any logical handicapping angle that would suggest going against Zenyatta as win selection. She gets my vote to win over Music Note with Ginger Punch third and Carriage Trail fourth.
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10-24-2008, 01:22 PM
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Zenyatta is of course the most likely winner here, but I don't think any of her races were THAT much better than Carriage Trail's Spinster. Perhaps I am overrating her race that day, but it REALLY impressed me.
I will probably only play this race at the end of a Pick-3. I am going to single Stardom Bound in the Juvy fillies, go deep in the very tough F&M Turf, and use Zenyatta and Carriage Trail here. I think one of thse two is your winner.
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