When will the tax cut be scrapped

[AeWingnut]

I saw one brief headline on Yahoo talking about how there is just way too much damage done by the Bush Administration to give the middle class their promised tax cut.

I know no one here cares about that empty promise I just think it is funny.

How many times are people going to believe it ?

Congress was talking about allowing offshore oil drilling before the election then they kinda let it go by the wayside when they thought they would win.

They were talking about a 2nd stimilus package before the election now it also seems to be on hold.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HajJAkQj_HU

[Mike]

When will the Obama doubters be separated from the Obama haters?

Wingnut, you must have hated Reagan and the two Bush spoiled frat boys. You probably didn't like Nixon. Gerald Ford was pretty unoffensive, how about him?

The Democratic presidents have been horrible, too. Bill Clinton was the then DNC's golden boy, and slave to big buisness. Kerry was another born with a silver spoon in his mouth pompous ass. Dukakis wasn't "man" enough to carry the Joe Six Pack crowd. Gore was also too passive

I know, I know, it's in vogue now to praise Reagan.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

Proposed tax cuts have already been scrapped.
The fed gov't is waiting for the most convenient time to tell us publicly.

We need to chip away at the deficit and start cutting our spending on foreign oil by more than
25% within 2 years time or we don't stand a chance of saving what's left of
our economy.

Thanks for stopping by Mr Buffett

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

I saw one brief headline on Yahoo talking about how there is just way too much damage done by the Bush Administration to give the middle class their promised tax cut.

I know no one here cares about that empty promise I just think it is funny.

How many times are people going to believe it ?

Congress was talking about allowing offshore oil drilling before the election then they kinda let it go by the wayside when they thought they would win.

They were talking about a 2nd stimilus package before the election now it also seems to be on hold.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HajJAkQj_HU

Damage like perhaps spending $10 Billion a month on a war that never should have been fought! And not raising taxes to support it, or asking people to sacrifice! Directing these funds in other directions will be a start, it's going to be a huge challenge for sure. I think Barack will put together a good team around him, including first and foremost a Treasury S. with experience to turn things around. It's gonna take time to get us out of a deep financial hole!

[MaTH716]

He must do something about the job market. There are many qualified people that are unemployed out there. Not to mention all the people that worked for companies like Bear Sterns and Lehman that thought they were close to living a very good retired life. Now not only can't they retire, but they have to go out and look for a jobs. That's more people into a very deep talent pool already.
If people aren't working, then they are not spending and then the government isn't collecting. You all know how it works. I don't know how he is going to do it, but raising taxes on small companies might just make it worse, if that's possible.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

Damage like perhaps spending $10 Billion a month on a war that never should have been fought! And not raising taxes to support it, or asking people to sacrifice! Directing these funds in other directions will be a start, it's going to be a huge challenge for sure. I think Barack will put together a good team around him, including first and foremost a Treasury S. with experience to turn things around. It's gonna take time to get us out of a deep financial hole!

Of course, nobody can undue the last 8 years in a couple days. It will take time and anyone who thought otherwise for a second isn't in touch with reality. Obama's speech was clear and honest...reminded me of JFK's "ask not what your country can do for you...." We'll talk after Obama has a chance to right the ship...of course, some folks have nothing left but cynicism...

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Mike

When will the Obama doubters be separated from the Obama haters?

Wingnut, you must have hated Reagan and the two Bush spoiled frat boys. You probably didn't like Nixon. Gerald Ford was pretty unoffensive, how about him?

The Democratic presidents have been horrible, too. Bill Clinton was the then DNC's golden boy, and slave to big buisness. Kerry was another born with a silver spoon in his mouth pompous ass. Dukakis wasn't "man" enough to carry the Joe Six Pack crowd. Gore was also too passive

I know, I know, it's in vogue now to praise Reagan.

I didn't like Reagan at first but by comparison the man was a giant.
The first Bush was disappointing. The 2nd was willing to scrap all for the war in Iraq. I think if we judge President Bush by his enemies he will go down as one of the greatest presidents EVAR.

Nixon was a big government guy I guess that is why he was hated so much. That and the 55 mph speed limit.

Gerald Ford ~ two great quotes

Remember, a governement that can give you everything you want can take from you all that you have

I've always thought that voting was overrated ~ Ford head on Futurama

Clinton got away with murder. The slogan... take credit not responsibilty.
Obama like Clinton, will spend his first 4 years campaigning for the next 4.

Gore couldn't carry his own state. I like to think that his anti-civil rights stance was that cost him the election... that and the people stuffng the ballot box in Florida were too lazy to stick the ballots in 1 at a time. (hence the dimpled and hanging chads)

I didn't vote for McCain. He's betrayed us too often to earn support.

I voted libertarian. Sadly they couldn't even beat out the Green Communist Party.

I guess people don't want liberty.

oh btw... nothing I have stated was hate. Just an observation that the campaign promise is just that. I agree with McCain on this point. He would/ has said anything to get elected.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Of course, nobody can undue the last 8 years in a couple days. It will take time and anyone who thought otherwise for a second isn't in touch with reality. Obama's speech was clear and honest...reminded me of JFK's "ask not what your country can do for you...." We'll talk after Obama has a chance to right the ship...of course, some folks have nothing left but cynicism...

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

I didn't like Reagan at first but by comparison the man was a giant.
The first Bush was disappointing. The 2nd was willing to scrap all for the war in Iraq. I think if we judge President Bush by his enemies he will go down as one of the greatest presidents EVAR.

Nixon was a big government guy I guess that is why he was hated so much. That and the 55 mph speed limit.

Gerald Ford ~ two great quotes

Remember, a governement that can give you everything you want can take from you all that you have

I've always thought that voting was overrated ~ Ford head on Futurama

Clinton got away with murder. The slogan... take credit not responsibilty.
Obama like Clinton, will spend his first 4 years campaigning for the next 4.

Gore couldn't carry his own state. I like to think that his anti-civil rights stance was that cost him the election... that and the people stuffng the ballot box in Florida were too lazy to stick the ballots in 1 at a time. (hence the dimpled and hanging chads)

I didn't vote for McCain. He's betrayed us too often to earn support.

I voted libertarian. Sadly they couldn't even beat out the Green Communist Party.

I guess people don't want liberty.

oh btw... nothing I have stated was hate. Just an observation that the campaign promise is just that. I agree with McCain on this point. He would/ has said anything to get elected.

John...If it wasn't for the greatest Klink pic ever, I'd have to give you a HUGE

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

Proposed tax cuts have already been scrapped.
The fed gov't is waiting for the most convenient time to tell us publicly.

We need to chip away at the deficit and start cutting our spending on foreign oil by more than
25% within 2 years time or we don't stand a chance of saving what's left of
our economy.

The Fraud said today that the road is long and we might not make it in one term.......SPLAT!!!!
Next week, there will be a new flavor of Kool-Ade for you folks, just before his 1st news conference

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

I saw one brief headline on Yahoo talking about how there is just way too much damage done by the Bush Administration to give the middle class their promised tax cut.

I know no one here cares about that empty promise I just think it is funny.

How many times are people going to believe it ?

Congress was talking about allowing offshore oil drilling before the election then they kinda let it go by the wayside when they thought they would win.

They were talking about a 2nd stimilus package before the election now it also seems to be on hold.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HajJAkQj_HU

If anyone really voted on the basis that they might get a 1.2% tax cut under Obama instead of a 0.8% tax cut under McCain then they are morons. The whole difference between the tax plans is eliminating Bush's tax cut for the wealthy which will get a lot more money towards reducing the deficit. As long as that happens I couldn't care less what happens to my taxes.

Where I will be pissed off is if Obama spends irresponsibly. I'm expecting him to bring in more tax money while reducing spending. I know the conservatives are convinced he's going to tax and spend and while I want to see the spending shifted around, I don't want to see it increase.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

The Fraud said today that the road is long and we might not make it in one term.......SPLAT!!!!
Next week, there will be a new flavor of Kool-Ade for you folks, just before his 1st news conference

Um, Dimmy, how exactly does that make him a fraud when he said in the final debate that considering the economic downturn it was unrealistic to believe that the budget could be balanced in less than 10 years? McCain was the one saying he could fix it in four years with his spending freeze which every liberal and conservative economist out there has said is impossible.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Um, Dimmy, how exactly does that make him a fraud when he said in the final debate that considering the economic downturn it was unrealistic to believe that the budget could be balanced in less than 10 years? McCain was the one saying he could fix it in four years with his spending freeze which every liberal and conservative economist out there has said is impossible.

Yippee......he implied in the last debate that the budget woes couldn't be fixed for 10 yrs....judge that against the euphoria leading up to the election
He might as well of said it under his breath. He can't deliver what he put out there for public consumption.....for 1..that makes him a fraud!

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Yippee......he implied in the last debate that the budget woes couldn't be fixed for 10 yrs....judge that against the euphoria leading up to the election
He might as well of said it under his breath. He can't deliver what he put out there for public consumption.....for 1..that makes him a fraud!

i think the euphoria has a lot to do with the end of the worst presidency of our lives.

i'll be interested to see if conservatives have anything better in 2 years than "socialist".

you guys do know you lost because you had no idea's with traction, right?
that and the bitter angry tone.

what happen to sunny reagan optimism? a promise of a bright future? you won with that.

now we get reptilian attacks on the other guy but no idea's that date from after say... 1968?

socialist. tee hee! snort!!!

good one. you really nailed him there.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i think the euphoria has a lot to do with the end of the worst presidency of our lives.

i'll be interested to see if conservatives have anything better in 2 years than "socialist".

you guys do know you lost because you had no idea's with traction, right?
that and the bitter angry tone.

what happen to sunny reagan optimism? a promise of a bright future? you won with that.

now we get reptilian attacks on the other guy but no idea's that date from after say... 1968?

socialist. tee hee! snort!!!

good one. you really nailed him there.

I agree with you on the Republican Partys lack of leadership, but I never said Barry was a socialist, although he's pointing in that direction