Rupert or other West Coasters

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GPK

Richi, while I appreciate you honest opinion, I find it hard to believe that I am alone in being a fan of a certain horses that are "a notch below." While it is all subjective...I venture to guess that you are fan of a few horses that many people may feel are "a notch below"

I have 50+ horses in my DRF stable that I like to keep an eye on. That to me is part of the excitement in racing. Watching a 2YO run that not many people got a chance to see, and following him/her before the larger general public may hear of the horse. Me in particular, I enjoy watching turf races and scouting for first timers that I think may do well, or one that does well and surprises me. Im sure you, as others have many horse that you may follow. But, just because that horse does not meet your standards, no need to think that others don't enjoy watching them run.

That's what it's all about. It's about picking out horses before anyone else knows about the horse. That is how you will get a good price. For me, it's not only how I will get a price betting on them, it is also how I may be able to buy the horse for a reasonable price.

I would not knock you for picking a horse that is under the radar. That is a good thing to do. I am the first guy to predict that a horse who has never even won a stakes race, will be the next great horse. I called EC the best 3 year old grass horse in the country before he had ever run in a stakes race. We tried to buy EC, TH Approval, and Roses in May before any of them had ever won a stakes race.

It's good to pick horses before anyone else knows about them. But in this case, PD is totally the opposite. This is a horse who has always been totally overrated that everyone has always been touting. He goes off at low odds all the time and usually disappoints. He's just a very overrated horse.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by dr.fager

fair enough, it's jumbled and some of it was from a side conversation with Kevin, B&J has been working on the turf, it's 3 and up....I was just saying that Hendricks was considering it, and possibly Baffert may be too.

From ESPN 8-3-06

Brother Derek's most likely race at Del Mar is the $100,000 El Cajon Stakes at a mile on Sept. 2, but Hendricks has not ruled out the $400,000 Del Mar Derby at 1 1/8 miles on turf on Sept. 3. Brother Derek has never run on turf.

"There is the slightest chance we might run in the Del Mar Derby," Hendricks said. "I might work him on the turf next week. Timing-wise, it comes up well. It is a Grade 2 worth $400,000. He's ahead of schedule."

Just saw this on DM barn notes....

Stable Notes By Gene Williams Sunday, August 27, 2006
BROTHER DEREK REMAINS ON TARGET FOR EL CAJON STAKES

Brother Derek added an exclamation point to his training regimen this morning with a sterling 5-furlong drill in 58.80 breezing as he finished preparation for his return to racing after a three-month hiatus following his fourth-place finish in the Preakness Stakes.

He has pointed for Saturday’s $100,000-added El Cajon Stakes at a mile on the main track for the past couple of weeks. “It was a very nice work,” trainer Dan Hendricks said. “He did it easy. Another horse broke in on him and it worked out very nice.” Hendricks said the “other horse” episode wasn’t planned but he said it worked out fine.

“It’s a little crowded out there during training, and sometimes a horse will break in on you,” he said. “It was fine for us.” The clockers gave these time splits on the work: first eighth in 12 seconds, 35.20 for 3 furlongs, 47 flat for the half-mile en route to the final time. “I got the last eighth in 11 and 3/5,” Hendricks said, adding, “It went just like we wanted; a nice tightener. You know, better horses work faster and that’s what he did.”

As for running in the El Cajon, Hendricks said, “I have to confirm it 100 percent with Mr. [Cecil] Pea**** that it’s the best thing to do and make sure Saturday’s race fills.” Brother Derek, who dead-heated for fourth in the Kentucky Derby with eventual Belmont Stakes winner Jazil, is also nominated to the Grade II, $400,000 Del Mar Derby on Sunday. Of that race, Hendricks said, “The Del Mar Derby is a great race and we wish we had time to run in both.”

[Rupert Pupkin]

I just read that Bob and John is going to run in the Del Mar Derby.

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I just read that Bob and John is going to run in the Del Mar Derby.

cool thanks for sharing...gpk had pointed out his work tab and thought he may be going there.

Bob and John 08/26/2006 DMR 5F :59.60 Dirt Fast H
08/19/2006 DMR 5F 1:00.00 Turf Firm B
08/12/2006 DMR 7F 1:28.40 Turf Firm H
08/05/2006 DMR 5F :58.40 Turf Firm H
07/27/2006 DMR 5F :58.20 Dirt Fast H
07/20/2006 DMR 5F :59.60 Dirt Fast H
07/09/2006 SA 4F :49.20 Dirt Fast H
06/30/2006 SA 4F :49.20 Dirt Fast H
06/05/2006 SA 6F 1:12.20 Dirt Fast H
05/31/2006 SA 6F 1:12.20 Dirt Fast H

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I just read that Bob and John is going to run in the Del Mar Derby.

Richi....enjoyed the debate earlier. Goes to show others how 2 people can disagree in a civil manner.

FYI...I agree that PD has been a bit of a bust, so far at least, but that still does not preclude me from being a fan on his and enjoying him. I happen to enjoy following alot of PG's babies. I remember being at the OTB when Go Between won the Palm Beach at Gulf this year. Told everyone in sight that he would win, but few listened.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GPK

Richi....enjoyed the debate earlier. Goes to show others how 2 people can disagree in a civil manner.

FYI...I agree that PD has been a bit of a bust, so far at least, but that still does not preclude me from being a fan on his and enjoying him. I happen to enjoy following alot of PG's babies. I remember being at the OTB when Go Between won the Palm Beach at Gulf this year. Told everyone in sight that he would win, but few listened.

If you like PG babies, you should pay attention to a 2 year old filly named Point Ashley. Baffert trains her. I think she is in the top two or three best 2 year old fillies in the country if not the best.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If you like PG babies, you should pay attention to a 2 year old filly named Point Ashley. Baffert trains her. I think she is in the top two or three best 2 year old fillies in the country if not the best.

Check the next page in here....I have already anointed her the 2007 Kentucky Oaks winner. I think I posted it yesterday or the day before.

[GPK]

here it is


http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3776

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GPK

here it is


http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3776

Oh cool, you already knew about her. We bid on her at the Keeneland sale, but she was too expensive. I think we went up to $400,000 but she went for about $800,000.

I bet her first-time out at 8-1 and she lost.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Oh cool, you already knew about her. We bid on her at the Keeneland sale, but she was too expensive. I think we went up to $400,000 but she went for about $800,000.

I bet her first-time out at 8-1 and she lost.

You and me both