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Old 12-28-2008, 11:53 AM
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/011-taqiyya.htm

Before you characters get all tight in your shorts, you should take a breath and read this piece. You should have questions about a "religious system" that advocates lying and stealth in daily activities of its' faithful!
I don't make this stuff up.

This post was brought about largely due to latest fighting in Middle East.
Try to keep the personal attacks to a minimum,please.
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Old 12-28-2008, 06:48 PM
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eh, they don't corner the market on lying to non-believers

whenever someone feels compelled to tell me they are Christian I hold on to my wallet and watch my back

if you have to tell people you are

most likely you aren't
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Old 12-28-2008, 06:57 PM
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eh, they don't corner the market on lying to non-believers

whenever someone feels compelled to tell me they are Christian I hold on to my wallet and watch my back

if you have to tell people you are

most likely you aren't
Interesting point you bring up, but I daresay the US need not fear a violent attack from Christians.
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Old 12-28-2008, 07:19 PM
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Interesting point you bring up, but I daresay the US need not fear a violent attack from Christians.
Well come on Tim, when will anyone find to time to plan one when they're so busy taking rights away from other people?!

Aka, boooooooooooooooooring.
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Old 12-28-2008, 07:36 PM
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Interesting point you bring up, but I daresay the US need not fear a violent attack from Christians.
Unless you run a Planned Parenthood clinic
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Old 12-28-2008, 07:50 PM
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Unless you run a Planned Parenthood clinic
And these are not even Christians in a desperate situation.
Make em starve, poor, and without rights and just imagine what
they take up besides bombing Abortion Clinics.
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:16 PM
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are you a correspondent for FOX News?
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:18 PM
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are you a correspondent for FOX News?
Nope.....not a bird on a wire either!
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:21 PM
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i'm trying to figure out who is behind that website. they're deliberately opaque.

they have a hard-on for the council on american islamic relations which is a mainstream muslim organization.

and they spend a good deal of effort emphasizing they aren't racist or anti-muslim.

it's an interesting read tim but not for the reasons you think.
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:23 PM
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i'm trying to figure out who is behind that website. they're deliberately opaque.

they have a hard-on for the council on american islamic relations which is a mainstream muslim organization.

and they spend a good deal of effort emphasizing they aren't racist or anti-muslim.

it's an interesting read tim but not for the reasons you think.
Well, at least you're thinking about it.
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:42 PM
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I love the source of this "piece". Maybe I'm naive, or just different than other people, because I don't worry about this stuff. I don't have the time to try and make judgements on a religion based on dissecting their "bible" word for word. Isn't walking around being afraid of a violent attack exactly what the terrorists want us to be doing?

All religions have things in them that if taken literally would raise more than a few questions. It just gets old after awhile.
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:00 PM
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thereligionofpeace.com is run by a guy named glen reinsford.

he seems to be a standard issue conservative fear monger except for his advocacy of banning muslim immigration to the united states. he relates it to playing russian roulette.

google him and read some of his other articles/interviews. interesting guy.
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:12 PM
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thereligionofpeace.com is run by a guy named glen reinsford.

he seems to be a standard issue conservative fear monger except for his advocacy of banning muslim immigration to the united states. he relates it to playing russian roulette.

google him and read some of his other articles/interviews. interesting guy.
What is with the conservative fear monger title??? or do you automatically
lump those together? His website has catalogued 9570 Islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11.
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:26 PM
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I'm sure you read the link,too.
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Old 12-28-2008, 09:35 PM
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What is with the conservative fear monger title??? or do you automatically
lump those together? His website has catalogued 9570 Islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11.
i don't. there are many conservatives who aren't fear mongers.

he isn't one of those.
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Well come on Tim, when will anyone find to time to plan one when they're so busy taking rights away from other people?!

Aka, boooooooooooooooooring.


on the rights question

which islamic country has more rights than this western country

at least as far as women and a few other "groups"

I honestly haven't heard of them

when I am governor of Illinois I will fail to recognize the rights of people that want to take away the rights of people
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This thread sucks.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:51 AM
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^^^^^^^^
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:50 AM
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I actually did read it. I'm not sure what kind of response you're looking for from people. Look at the site you linked to. Come on... What do you propose we do?
The response is to be made aware of what and who is working against our country. No more no less. What is the process by which you "vett" a site or source? Do you take offense at the site because you perceive it to be hateful, or because you consider it to be alarmist in nature?
The site sheds light on what it believes is a threat to our country. I think that's a correct assumption.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:14 AM
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Amazing how lazy people are when it comes to religion:

1)The Prophet that Muslims follow was a pedophile that married a nine year old.

2)He said to kill those who tried to leave the religion.

3) Said it was cool to treat women like farm animals(and said men could beat them up a little to keep them in line.)

4)Said “slay the infidels wherever ye find them,” and “smite their necks and fingertips,” showing “ruthlessness to unbelievers,”

Do you really want to compare the Christian prophet to this prophet? They aren't close, and that's why you have one particularly violent religion causing trouble for the other 3/4 of the World's population. I am not a fan of Fundamentalist Christianity, but I think it's incredibly lazy to try to say one religion is anywhere near as violent as the other. Did Jesus say to kill those who leave Christianity? I don't think so. See, this is why you see these countries where the population is almost 100% Muslim( they have the right to kill anyone who leaves Islam behind.) I can understand how people don't care about either religion, or any religion. However, it's ignorant to keep thinking Islam isn't an incredibly violent religion. The prophet himself was very violent, and they are simply following his instructions.
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