STUDART and Trillian

[the_fat_man]

Dropping the whip is sometimes a good thing.

[johnny pinwheel]

yeah but she falls out of the gate alot

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Dropping the whip is sometimes a good thing.

Didn't Rajiv knock it out of her hands?

[NTamm1215]

Maylan is only three wins away from losing her bug and resuming her riding career...










































At Philly.

NT

[blackthroatedwind]

Yes, her NY career is almost over, unless it moves to Rochester.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yes, her NY career is almost over, unless it moves to Rochester.

For some reason I just see her trying Chicago now that Inez won't be around any longer (lost her bug). Kinda hoping she does come here so I can have 2 weeks of her getting bet heavy because she is 'from New York'. One of our favorites Ariel Smith tried it and it was great till run out of town.....

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Maylan is only three wins away from losing her bug and resuming her riding career...







At Philly.

NT

She's not that good.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Didn't Rajiv knock it out of her hands?

He did. Though unintentional, it appears to have worked against him. The track probably played some role in her winning, however, I think Maragh was exposed when he had a chance to go inside of her before the turn and didn't.

I'm not exactly her biggest supporter but she showed me something this race. Who whips harder? Maylan or Hill?

[blackthroatedwind]

Most horses like to rally OUTSIDE of horses.

I just don't get why this is so confusing to you.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Most horses like to rally OUTSIDE of horses.

I just don't get why this is so confusing to you.

The reason this ISN"T confusing, as is the case for those horses that lack room but don't run when they get clear, is that there are cases where horses actually run inside. In fact, the winner of the race under discussion had no problem running inside. There's what trainers believe and then there's what the replays reveal.

Moreover, if you look at race charts over an extended period of time and identify patterns or types, in general or specific to a track, you'll notice that most of the IMPRESSIVE RUNS are by horses that saved ground -- that did LESS running than the others.

But let's look at this a little bit closer. Is it really the horses that don't want to run inside/between or is it the jocks? Obviously a jock can't put a horse into a strong drive when it is behind horses. Under those circumstances, going OUTSIDE is optimum. When there are no other horses ahead of a given horse, inside or out is essentially the same.

[blackthroatedwind]

Horses like to RALLY outside horses. Comparing this to a horse riding the rail while on the lead doesn't make sense. When you add in Monday's strong rail, and the lack of ability by the second finisher, you create a recipe for the winner hanging on.

The most preferable trip is saving ground on the turn and angling outside into the clear in the stretch when you are coming from behind....unless you are dealing with a horse that is an effective rail runner. These horses may not be rare but they aren't the norm.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Horses like to RALLY outside horses. Comparing this to a horse riding the rail while on the lead doesn't make sense. When you add in Monday's strong rail, and the lack of ability by the second finisher, you create a recipe for the winner hanging on.

Maragh had a chance to take the inside before they hit the turn. This is what I was referring to; not that he should've passed on the inside in the lane.

The winner and at least one other horse that won on the inside/front end Monday struggled to change leads and upon doing so experienced a 'resurgence' of sorts. While the rail was certainly the place to be, it might not've been as good as some would think.

When you consider the fact that the winner had 'wiped out' the field last out, as had the Toscano claim the day before, you also get an idea of why they both 'hung on'.