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Old 03-02-2009, 10:41 PM
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The new sheriff attitude makes me sick. Isn't is plainly apparent to most that this is hardly time to make things tougher on American business? Wouldnt the prudent move be to tell the unions that it is hardly the right time to press their agenda when everyone is struggling? That they just have to wait to get their payback? Why does every left wing special interest group have to get the green light on everything on the menu in th Presidents first 60 days? Do these clueless people even bother to see peoples money burning up everytime they make moves like this or say stupid things about banking or others financial issues? You dont have to be a fiscal conservative to wonder what exactly are they thinking?

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Old 03-02-2009, 11:10 PM
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Labor-union leaders gathered in Florida this week have a lengthy agenda for the Obama administration, including a Labor Department focused on stepped-up enforcement of wage-and-hour and workplace-safety rules.

Vice President Joe Biden and newly appointed Labor Secretary Hilda Solis are scheduled to start outlining President Barack Obama's labor policies during an AFL-CIO executive council meeting this week in Miami. Ms. Solis will join the council again on Tuesday, and Vice President Joe Biden is slated to meet the group Thursday.

"There's a new sheriff in town," Ms. Solis told several hundred union members and others filling pews in a church in a working-class neighborhood of Miami on Monday. But Ms. Solis said labor unions need to do more to rally support for legislation that would make it easier for unions to organize -- a proposal business interests strongly oppose.

Unions have an ambitious legislative agenda, led by their push for a proposed "Employee Free Choice Act" that would make it easier for unions to organize workers.

"The department needs to flip itself over and start looking at the perspective of workers again. It hasn't been working for a long time," said Anna Burger, the International-Secretary-Treasurer for the Service Employees International Union
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:50 AM
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Labor-union leaders gathered in Florida this week have a lengthy agenda for the Obama administration, including a Labor Department focused on stepped-up enforcement of wage-and-hour and workplace-safety rules.

Vice President Joe Biden and newly appointed Labor Secretary Hilda Solis are scheduled to start outlining President Barack Obama's labor policies during an AFL-CIO executive council meeting this week in Miami. Ms. Solis will join the council again on Tuesday, and Vice President Joe Biden is slated to meet the group Thursday.

"There's a new sheriff in town," Ms. Solis told several hundred union members and others filling pews in a church in a working-class neighborhood of Miami on Monday. But Ms. Solis said labor unions need to do more to rally support for legislation that would make it easier for unions to organize -- a proposal business interests strongly oppose.

Unions have an ambitious legislative agenda, led by their push for a proposed "Employee Free Choice Act" that would make it easier for unions to organize workers.

"The department needs to flip itself over and start looking at the perspective of workers again. It hasn't been working for a long time," said Anna Burger, the International-Secretary-Treasurer for the Service Employees International Union

They've already killed the goose that lays the golden eggs...now they're coming back for the carcass!!
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Old 03-03-2009, 11:35 AM
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what they're thinking is that they have to ram through the entire agenda as fast as possible while they have the political capital. there is little concern at all if its good for the country, that isn't what is important to this bunch right now. its a domestic shock and awe campaign.
the plan is to do exactly what Obama said he would do all along, to radically and fundamentally change America and he's using the financial crisis for cover to get the job done.
the temporary beneficiaries are unions, those on the receiving end of the massive and unsustainable largess, and those who desire to make-over America into something completely different.
I say temporary because all of us will end up losers at the end of the day.
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Old 03-03-2009, 11:42 AM
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Bush sucked.
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what they're thinking is that they have to ram through the entire agenda as fast as possible while they have the political capital. there is little concern at all if its good for the country, that isn't what is important to this bunch right now. its a domestic shock and awe campaign.
the plan is to do exactly what Obama said he would do all along, to radically and fundamentally change America and he's using the financial crisis for cover to get the job done.
the temporary beneficiaries are unions, those on the receiving end of the massive and unsustainable largess, and those who desire to make-over America into something completely different.
I say temporary because all of us will end up losers at the end of the day.

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Old 03-03-2009, 01:15 PM
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The big 3 auto makers need to greatly reduce their pension and benefit liabilities to former and retired employees and get out of their Union contracts. Easiest way for that to happen would be to allow them to go bankrupt not fund them. Of course that will never happen or at least not under Obama.
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Bush sucked, yet we can already look back on those 8 years as "the good old days".
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:12 PM
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Chuck, you have to remember - it's not about the people, it's about the power!
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Bush sucked, yet we can already look back on those 8 years as "the good old days".

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Bush sucked, yet we can already look back on those 8 years as "the good old days".
This is exactly what I told many of my friends, before the election: "You will miss George Bush". That Mr. O. could do that in 6 weeks surprises me though.
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:50 PM
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What do you think of the job Obama is doing?? I all see him do is spend BILLIONS every single day it seems like. He has to be disappointing everyone so far..

I know I know... its only been 6 weeks. He seems to be the next Jimmy Carter.
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:55 PM
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What do you think of the job Obama is doing?? I all see him do is spend BILLIONS every single day it seems like. He has to be disappointing everyone so far..

I know I know... its only been 6 weeks. He seems to be the next Jimmy Carter.
And you expected differently? Some just don't like how he is spending the money ( as compared to the person we aren't allowed to mention anymore)...
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:59 PM
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I don't understand giving 900 million to Hamas, I mean the Palestinians. I could think of a few better ways to spend 900 million.
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:03 PM
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And you expected differently? Some just don't like how he is spending the money ( as compared to the person we aren't allowed to mention anymore)...

I guess I expected (or hoped) that he would be governing from the center... which what I was getting real excited about pre-inaugeration (sp?) when he seemed to be going towards the center.

Instead he is more left than everyone I've seen in my lifetime combined.

I just REALLY hope he doesnt start this Universal Healthcare thing... I'm all for reforming healthcare and making it more affordable (it needs to be - and start with the lawyers who sue the crap out of doctors and hospitals - and then kick the greedy pharmacutical companies in the gonads). Socialized medicine is just such a horrible idea. Obama should go live in a country that has socialized health care and he will change his mind RIGHT away.
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i'm glad you all are so upbeat, i don't know how you could be.
with trillion dollar deficits and massive tax hikes, I see nothing but a bleak future. we haven't even begun to experience the pain yet. the worst is ahead of us. worse yet, the guy in charge isn't trying to fix the problem. today he compared the stock market a tracking poll.
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i'm glad you all are so upbeat, i don't know how you could be.
with trillion dollar deficits and massive tax hikes, I see nothing but a bleak future. we haven't even begun to experience the pain yet. the worst is ahead of us. worse yet, the guy in charge isn't trying to fix the problem. today he compared the stock market a tracking poll.

i agree that all the tax increases to the wealthy and to butt-rape small business and entrapeneurs is a very very bad thing.... especially with the economy being so bad. It will ONLY lead to more jobs being lost. Seems like such a stupid plan. The people who create jobs should be getting help right now.

And I think that every executive of all the bailed-out companies should spend a few years in prison.
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