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Old 04-04-2009, 10:13 PM
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with so many confirming there running ability, I dont think any horse will be less than3/1 entering the gate and as mny as 7 or 8 8/1 or less.
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:20 PM
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with so many confirming there running ability, I dont think any horse will be less than3/1 entering the gate and as mny as 7 or 8 8/1 or less.

Leaving the other 12 at about 200:1 each?
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:21 PM
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Big Brown will be 8-5
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:41 PM
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I will say this Derby alot of horses are easy tosses.

I Want Revenge and PONL looking like 4/1 or so
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:29 AM
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3-1 on POTN
Revenge right behind at 7-2
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Old 04-05-2009, 09:29 AM
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IWR, POTN, and Quality Road in that 4-1 to 6-1 range. Everyone else probably looking at 10-1 and up.
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Old 04-05-2009, 10:41 AM
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3-1 on POTN
Revenge right behind at 7-2
I would make a humongous bet right now that Revenge will go off at lower odds than POTN. I wish I could find that prop somewhere.

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Old 04-05-2009, 11:05 AM
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I wish I could book a serious amount of money on Pioneer of the Nile at 3:1.

He's probably a great book at the 7 or 8 to one he will be.
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Old 04-05-2009, 11:10 AM
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you beat me to it, my guess is 8:1 for Pioneer of the Nile in the derby.
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Old 04-05-2009, 11:13 AM
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Leaving the other 12 at about 200:1 each?
That's true if you had 4 horses at 8-1, 2 horses at 6-1 and 2 horses at 4-1.

But you could have 8 horses at 8-1, and all the rest would only have to be around 38-1 each.

If there is one horse at 7-2, one horse at 5-1, and 6 horses at 8-1, the other 12 would have to be about 88-1.

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Old 04-05-2009, 02:48 PM
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I would make a humongous bet right now that Revenge will go off at lower odds than POTN. I wish I could find that prop somewhere.

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I had the same reaction. I can't see POTN being lower odds than IWR. I'd be surprised if any horse is at 3-1 or less. Friesian Fire, Quality Road, IWR & POTN will all get decent support.
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Old 04-05-2009, 04:51 PM
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I certainly will be betting I Want Revenge at 4 to 1 or bettor.. Not sure anything is within 5 lengths of him currently.. The issue is which dopey horse will DrugS have fill out the exacta with.. Last years filly was mighty juicey..
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Old 04-05-2009, 06:11 PM
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Who knows what changes in the next 4 weeks, but in the future wager right now IWR is 9-2, QR 5-1, and POTN 11-1.
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Old 04-05-2009, 07:40 PM
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3-1 on POTN
Revenge right behind at 7-2
Whaaaat? I'd probably book POTN at like 15-1 if I could.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:17 AM
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After Old Fashion wins th Ak derby he will be in the 5/1 8/1 range.
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