Rachel Alexandra sale pending; Preakness possible? - Page 4

Scav · #61 05-06-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

I don't know about assuming Wiggins being taken care of by current (or future) owners. Jerry Brown of Thorograph posted publically on his site that he currently has a lawsuit pending against Rachel's ownership interest for not paying the fees after they hired him to find her for them for purchase. That obviously didn't encumber the current sale.

Rachel's owners are not any more impressive to me than her new connections.

You need to re-word this, it is against ONE of the owners. From all accounts, Morrison and Wiggins have a long standing relationship and a good one at that.

Antitrust32 · #62 05-06-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

It was Jess Jackson, non-committal on most stuff but said that he is not against running her as a four year old, didn't say when he next start was except that the Acorn is what her current goal is, but was even non-commital on the trainer, wihch I thought was interesting, because i would think it is 1/200 that Assface gets her

that would be pretty cool if he doesnt go to Assface.

There is absolutely no reason not to run her as a four year old unless she isnt sound of course.

Travis Stone · #63 05-06-2009, 06:20 PM

IF she goes, she'll make the Preakness 100x more interesting than it currently is.

Antitrust32 · #64 05-06-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

I don't know about assuming Wiggins being taken care of by current (or future) owners. Jerry Brown of Thorograph posted publically on his site that he currently has a lawsuit pending against Rachel's ownership interest for not paying the fees after they hired him to find her for them for purchase. That obviously didn't encumber the current sale.

Rachel's owners are not any more impressive to me than her new connections.

you always look at things as glass half empty dont you??

This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for the owners, and I bet the trainer will be a-o-k also.

It would be stupid to replace Borel on this horse, i doubt it happens unless its Borels choice.

philcski · #65 05-06-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I wouldn't run her in the preakness. I'd save her for the Belmont and let her work 'em real good.

I like your thinking.

Antitrust32 · #66 05-06-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Key word there is potential. She could get hurt tomorrow and never run again, you know how quickly things change. Hard for me to feel too bad for the guy considering the kind of run he's on.

its kind of funny... we dont even know if Borel would be replaced and we're already supposed to feel bad for him.

I'm sure he is even happy for the owners right now.

Riot · #67 05-06-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

You need to re-word this, it is against ONE of the owners. From all accounts, Morrison and Wiggins have a long standing relationship and a good one at that.

You're right, it's against Lauffer. Done.

Riot · #68 05-06-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Key word there is potential. She could get hurt tomorrow and never run again, you know how quickly things change. Hard for me to feel too bad for the guy considering the kind of run he's on.

I'd sell her for 10 million, too - but I think I'd try and work out a Secretariat-type deal where I could still race her and control the racing career, and they have the majority interest at retirement.

I wouldn't mind seeing Borel's run continue - he's earned it.

Antitrust32 · #69 05-06-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

I'd sell her for 10 million, too - but I think I'd try and work out a Secretariat-type deal where I could still race her and control the racing career, and they have the majority interest at retirement.

I wouldn't mind seeing Borel's run continue - he's earned it.

she doesnt have a pair of nuts between her legs..

that kind of deal wouldnt make sense... unless it was for significantly less money.

Riot · #70 05-06-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

you always look at things as glass half empty dont you??

This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for the owners, and I bet the trainer will be a-o-k also.

It would be stupid to replace Borel on this horse, i doubt it happens unless its Borels choice.

LOL - no, I'm alot more optimistic and tolerant than many here. But jerks are jerks - having alot of money or making a good sale or having good luck doesn't change their spots.

I doubt the current owners made a deal to take care of Wiggins. I hope I'm wrong. Like you say, it'd be silly to mess with success, we don't know if Wiggins and Borel will be out yet - except Jackson has already hemmed and hawed and avoided answering the question. So they are not "in".

Danzig · #71 05-06-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I'm sorry but it would be way more fun to root for her while being trained by Wiggins and not the ASSMAN!

good for the connections though... I bet the money is real nice, for a FILLY! (i'd sell her probably)

argggh, not the ASSman. i'm not surprised-except that it's taken this long for a legit deal to shake out.
someone offers ten mill, ya take it. well, i'd sell most of her, and keep a small % for myself. that way, you get the money, and still keep a piece of her.

but assman?! sheeesh

Danzig · #72 05-06-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Stop it, she would win by a head, I could have anchored Secretariat in the Belmont.....

but your crop skills....surely by five?

philcski · #73 05-06-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - no, I'm alot more optimistic and tolerant than many here. But jerks are jerks - having alot of money or making a good sale or having good luck doesn't change their spots.

I doubt the current owners made a deal to take care of Wiggins. I hope I'm wrong. Like you say, it'd be silly to mess with success, we don't know if Wiggins and Borel will be out yet - except Jackson has already hemmed and hawed and avoided answering the question. So they are not "in".

Chuck can probably fill us in on what the typical trainer cut is on a sale like this. I thought it was 5% or so.

Danzig · #74 05-06-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I would take the one who he said was the best horse he's ever ridden. Do you really want to lose the mount on her for Mine that Bird??

they said rachel drags her exercise rider around, but completely relaxes for calvin.
i'd keep the rider if it was howdie doodie-it obviously works.

Riot · #75 05-06-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Kind of difficult to work out that kind of a deal for a filly though isn't it?

Has anybody even worked that kind of deal for a good filly?

I doubt you could get 10 million. How many babies, how well will they sell? Racing her is the major repay on her purchase price for new owners in my view?