Imus fired why not Letterman

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

Imus got booted over his remarks about the women's rutgers team. He apoligized , was fired , and went to meet with the team in person to apoligize again knowing he wasn't getting his job back.

Letterman still has his gig , has apoligized , most likely won't be going to Alaska to meet the palin girls in person to apoligize

does he deserve the same fate as Imus or is his simple apology eneough to save his job? how do the women here feel about this? why should one guy get the ax and the other one get to keep his job?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't think he should be fired. and you may want to read this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31381282...shington_post/

i found it interesting. why the uproar now? and palin trying to turn this into an attack on young girls, as tho letterman was actually suggesting raping 14 year old girls-how ridiculous.

fair eneugh

should imus have been sent packing ?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

fair eneugh

should imus have been sent packing ?

no, i don't think he should have been.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

absolutely not.

perhaps palin should have spent more time with her daughters and less time on her political career, then they wouldn't be fodder for jokes right now.

how do you define more time? she was a governor of a state , in a dual income family , what did you want her to do stay home and bake chocolate chip cookies? didn't women of yesterday fight so that the Sarah palin's of the world and the Hillary Clintons of the world could someday live out their dreams and run for and get elected to some of the highest offices in the country?

look at how some of the kennedy's turned out , i assume Rose Kennedy ran her house and her kid's lives 24/7 ---- didn't some of them get into trouble over the years??? Spending more time doesn't always lead to less trouble . See Nancy Reagan too!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Perhaps not.......the woman deals with a perceieved threat/slight.....just as Al
and Jesse or Frank deal with perception! It was something....but still much-ado

it was ridiculous and probably backfired, with letterman getting higher ratings because of it.
besides, didn't palin attend a rally where people started shouting threats of violence, and she just smirked? and now she takes a joke and tries to twist it for political points-she's the one linking this joke with the 14 year old, letterman meant it for the over 18 baby mama.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

how do you define more time? she was a governor of a state , in a dual income family , what did you want her to do stay home and bake chocolate chip cookies? didn't women of yesterday fight so that the Sarah palin's of the world and the Hillary Clintons of the world could someday live out their dreams and run for and get elected to some of the highest offices in the country?

look at how some of the kennedy's turned out , i assume Rose Kennedy ran her house and her kid's lives 24/7 ---- didn't some of them get into trouble over the years??? Spending more time doesn't always lead to less trouble

i'm old fashioned in the sense that you if you choose to have a family, that family should come first. palin could run for gov, seek higher office, after her kids were older. i've worked since my kids were little, but they never spent time in day care or with a nanny-and i was home every night. the lack of parenting these days imo is the #1 reason for the huge spikes in teen pregnancy.
wonderful-she's running the state, who's running the house? and yes, sometimes kids still run into trouble regardless of a parents' best efforts-but having a mother on the run for months at a time while running for vp, and thrusting young kids into the limelight and dog eat dog world of politics can't possibly be in the best interests of those kids.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm old fashioned in the sense that you if you choose to have a family, that family should come first. palin could run for gov, seek higher office, after her kids were older. i've worked since my kids were little, but they never spent time in day care or with a nanny-and i was home every night. the lack of parenting these days imo is the #1 reason for the huge spikes in teen pregnancy.
wonderful-she's running the state, who's running the house? and yes, sometimes kids still run into trouble regardless of a parents' best efforts-but having a mother on the run for months at a time while running for vp, and thrusting young kids into the limelight and dog eat dog world of politics can't possibly be in the best interests of those kids.

looks like the young ms clinton turned out alright with mommy and daddy both burning the mid night oil - one for the state and the other for the law firm

[the_fat_man]

This is a perfect example of why most of the world thinks Americans are IDIOTS (among other things).

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm old fashioned in the sense that you if you choose to have a family, that family should come first. palin could run for gov, seek higher office, after her kids were older. i've worked since my kids were little, but they never spent time in day care or with a nanny-and i was home every night. the lack of parenting these days imo is the #1 reason for the huge spikes in teen pregnancy.
wonderful-she's running the state, who's running the house? and yes, sometimes kids still run into trouble regardless of a parents' best efforts-but having a mother on the run for months at a time while running for vp, and thrusting young kids into the limelight and dog eat dog world of politics can't possibly be in the best interests of those kids.

old fashion does not cut it anymore , i wish it did, but , more and more women are in the workplace - they are mothers and they are going to work 80+ hrs a week once they reach high levels in corporations and gov't - that's what it takes in these types of jobs to make it - total dedication to the job , there is no shortcut , no sunday's off , it's 24/7 - that's the way the world works today if you want a high level job at the corporate or gov't level ---there are no more 9 to 5's

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

old fashion does not cut it anymore , i wish it did, but , more and more women are in the workplace - they are mothers and they are going to work 80+ hrs a week once they reach high levels in corporations and gov't - that's what it takes in these types of jobs to make it - total dedication to the job , there is no shortcut , no sunday's off , it's 24/7 - that's the way the world works today if you want a high level job at the corporate or gov't level ---there are no more 9 to 5's

and it's my contention that while women are 'having it all', their family-mostly the kids, are paying the price.

[Danzig]

sarah has accepted letterman's apology that he offered last night:


Sarah Palin has accepted comedian David Letterman’s apology made during Monday night’s broadcast of “The Late Show” for crude jokes made about her and her teen daughters last week.

In a statement to FOXNews.com early Tuesday, the Alaska governor said, "Of course it's accepted on behalf of young women, like my daughters, who hope men who 'joke' about public displays of sexual exploitation of girls will soon evolve."

"Letterman certainly has the right to 'joke' about whatever he wants to, and thankfully we have the right to express our reaction," Palin said. "This is all thanks to our U.S. Military women and men putting their lives on the line for us to secure America's Right to Free Speech - in this case, may that right be used to promote equality and respect."

[Danzig]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090616/...n_legal_fees_1

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it was ridiculous and probably backfired, with letterman getting higher ratings because of it.
besides, didn't palin attend a rally where people started shouting threats of violence, and she just smirked? and now she takes a joke and tries to twist it for political points-she's the one linking this joke with the 14 year old, letterman meant it for the over 18 baby mama.

that is your opinion,apparently.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and it's my contention that while women are 'having it all', their family-mostly the kids, are paying the price.

so what's the solution? should we go back to the 50's?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by gales0678

so what's the solution? should we go back to the 50's?

not necessarily. but i do think our society is going to encounter only further problems because of the disintegration of our families, and because of children being treated as mom/dads best friend instead of being treated as the child. too many parents are exhausted at days end, and would rather give in to little johnny than do what's right. it's why schools are having the discipline problems they are having....
at any rate, not all sarahs fault-but still a serious issue.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

that is your opinion,apparently.

what's my opinion? letterman is enjoying a ratings spike, he did intend the joke for the 18 year old, and palin did face accusations of ignoring racial threats at a speech/rally or whatever it was, didn't she? and i also think she chose NOW, when she's been pretty much a non story, to get offended at jokes that have been told at her childrens expense for a year, as a way to get some PR. i wonder how much of an increase she'll see in her legal expense donations...

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Danzig

what's my opinion? letterman is enjoying a ratings spike, he did intend the joke for the 18 year old, and palin did face accusations of ignoring racial threats at a speech/rally or whatever it was, didn't she? and i also think she chose NOW, when she's been pretty much a non story, to get offended at jokes that have been told at her childrens expense for a year, as a way to get some PR. i wonder how much of an increase she'll see in her legal expense donations...

I think the worst part is that she attributed the joke to the 14 year old when she should have been being motherly and convincing the 14 year old that it wasn't about her. The joke was in poor taste cause the 14 year old was there but anyone with a brain knew Letterman was talking about Bristol.

[dellinger63]

I think Letterman was just reading a joke written for him. He apologized, case over. Imus was all him. No writers and he went far deeper into the 'pool of bad taste' (at the very least) than Dave did. IMO

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I think the worst part is that she attributed the joke to the 14 year old when she should have been being motherly and convincing the 14 year old that it wasn't about her. The joke was in poor taste cause the 14 year old was there but anyone with a brain knew Letterman was talking about Bristol.

then there's the fact that she said nothing last fall about leno, o'brien et al making jokes. it wasn't the best thing politically at the time, but i guess now it is...she's an offended mother now, but she sure wasn't then...my kids know i have their back if needed, whether it's pc at the time or not.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

what's my opinion? letterman is enjoying a ratings spike, he did intend the joke for the 18 year old, and palin did face accusations of ignoring racial threats at a speech/rally or whatever it was, didn't she? and i also think she chose NOW, when she's been pretty much a non story, to get offended at jokes that have been told at her childrens expense for a year, as a way to get some PR. i wonder how much of an increase she'll see in her legal expense donations...

So you choose the negative spin.....no problem!