6/24- $155k Belmont C/O Contest/Discussion

[Kasept]

$154,891 Carry to Belmont Wednesday..

Let's discuss the races leading up... Looks like a fun and challenging sequence...

Contest the usual $2,000 budget for fabulous DT prizes...


BELMONT PARK


4th (2:36)

6 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Maiden Claiming ($12,500) | Purse: $14,000

1 Karakormsweetheart Fuentes R D 118 $12,500 L
2 Buea Walnut Rodriguez R R 118 $12,500
3 Previous Pleasure Garcia Alan 123 $12,500 FTL
4 Driven Woman Rivera J L Jr 123 $12,500 L
5 Saint Midas Morales S 118 $12,500 L
6 Scholarly Pursuit Lopez P 118 $12,500 FTL
7 Esquivalience Chavez J F 123 $12,500 L
8 Dancetothetune Casey A J 116 $12,500 L



5th (3:08)

6 Furlongs (OFF THE TURF) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($25,000) | Purse: $22,000

1 Sinister Deance Rodriguez R R 121 $25,000 L
2 Tutti Va Bene Dominguez R A 119 $25,000 L
3 Fiona Freud Velasquez C 121 $25,000 L
4 Ocala Jorge Chavez J F 121 $25,000 L
5 Justinline Samyn J L 121 $25,000 L
6 Bella Blu Lopez P 121 $25,000 L
7 Ed's Princess Morales S 121 $25,000 L
8 Dear Contender Fuentes R D 121 $25,000
9 No Rhyme Or Reason Maragh R 117 $25,000 L
10 Donna's Sandee Castellano J J 121 $25,000 L
MTO Green Harbor Luzzi M J 117 $25,000 L
MTO Kanwicat Casey A J 114 $25,000 L
MTO Quonata Luzzi M J 117 $25,000 L



6th (3:40)

1 1/8 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $42,000

2 Storm Hope Castellano J J 118 L
1 W. C. Jones Maragh R 123 L
3 J L Bernstein Lezcano J 118 L
4 Dontstealmyland Coa E M 118
5 Pernice Samyn J L 118 L
6 Mind Boggling Lopez P 118 L
7 John Wyatt Velazquez J R 118 L
1A Quiet On the Tee Dominguez R A 118 FTL
8 Cough Drop Velasquez C 123 L
9 Don't You Linger Espinoza J L 118
10 Cops Fever Luzzi M J 123 L
11 Playful Majesty Casey A J 111 L

A-Coupled: W. C. Jones and Quiet On the Tee



7th (4:12)

6 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($10,000) | Purse: $19,000

1 Charming Mandate Rodriguez R R 120 $10,000 L
2 Decorated Court Velasquez C 120 $10,000 L
3 Sweet Nobility Castellano J J 120 $10,000 L
4 Smokin Sarah Maragh R 121 $10,000 L
5 Crazy Thing Espinoza J L 120 $10,000 L
6 Carolina Fuego Chavez J F 120 $10,000 L
7 Stephen's Rhythm's Lezcano J 120 $10,000 L
8 Pu Dew Luzzi M J 120 $10,000 L



8th (4:45)

7 Furlongs (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Allowance Optional Claiming ($50,000) | Purse: $45,000

2 Baroness Castellano J J 120 $50,000 L
3 Nedjma Maragh R 120 $50,000 L
4 Princess Maura Prado E S 119 L
5 Brockly Rob Lezcano J 116 L
6 Sweet Madness Garcia Alan 120 L
1 Offhand Remark Velazquez J R 120 L
7 Madam Commander Fuentes R D 120 $50,000 L
8 Speed Dating Coa E M 116 L
9 Mine Or Who's Dominguez R A 120 L
10 Silvercup Baby Velasquez C 120 $50,000 L
11 AE Acquired Cat Coa E M 123 $50,000 L
12 AE Crazy Catlady Prado E S 120 L
13 AE Mesa Girl Samyn J L 120 L
14 MTO Jovanna Velasquez C 120 L
15 MTO Summer Palace Castellano J J 120 $50,000 L
1A MTO Olde Glamour Luzzi M J 116 L

A-Coupled: Offhand Remark and Olde Glamour



9th (5:17)

6 Furlongs (Inner turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Maiden Claiming ($25,000) | Purse: $19,000

1 Sarah's Sally Velasquez C 123 $25,000 L
2 Quantifier Luzzi M J 123 $25,000 L
3 Carmen's Kiss Castellano J J 119 $25,000 L
4 Miss Saul Prado E S 123 $25,000 FTL
5 Cat Grace Chavez J F 119 $25,000 L
6 Flashy and Fast Morales S 119 $25,000 L
7 Rnbs Blackwateroll Dominguez R A 119 $25,000 L
8 Cottage Industry Espinoza J L 119 $25,000 Blk-On L
9 World Express Lezcano J 119 $25,000 L
10 Crafty Gem Samyn J L 123 $25,000 L
11 Jackpot Julie Lopez P 119 $25,000 L
MTO Super Child Dominguez R A 119 $25,000 L

[herkhorse]

Ticket 1
R1: 1 5 6
R2: 10 13
R3: 2 5 6 8
R4: 4 5
R5: 1 3 8
R6: 1 7
Cost: $576.00
Ticket 2
R1: 1 5 6
R2: 10 13
R3: 1 11
R4: 4 5
R5: 1 3 8
R6: 1 7
Cost: $288.00
Ticket 3
R1: 1 5 6
R2: 10 13
R3: 2 5 6 8
R4: 4 5
R5: 7 12 13
R6: 1 7
Cost: $576.00
Ticket 4
R1: 1 5 6
R2: 10 13
R3: 2 5 6 8
R4: 4 5
R5: 1 3 8
R6: 10
Cost: $288.00
Total Cost of Spread Tickets: $1,728.00

[NoLuvForPletch]

4th race: 7 - most likely as chavez/gullo on fire...6 - 1ster works out as fast as the others have run...

5th race: 2 - sciacca's italian charge should win here, ramon a plus...3 - fiona fraud, how many chances?
EDIT:OFF THE TURF - 13 beat nobody but did it easily...130k purchase probably outclasses these as well...plus he's a byk single and he's on fire right now...

6th race: 1POE - if not for the tagg next door would be the lock of the day...2 - tagg next door only one that can beat the favorite
EDIT: Race got a whole lot more difficult (or saved me from peril according to Andy) with the scratch of WC Jones...add Dutrow's colt as a replacement...looks best of those with a recent race under his belt...

7th race: 4 of them can win (4,5,6,7), 4 of them can't (the others)...don't really care for the 7 all that much and like the 6 the best of the remaining 3

8th race: 6 - surprise package at 15-1...throw out last (ugly incident) and her times from last year are the fastest even though her figs aren't

9th race: in order of preference...9,3,1,7...9 cuts back and drops, winner...3 - weaver due...1 and 7 logical out of same race...

6-7/13/1-2/4-5-6/6/1-3-7-9

EDIT: PK6 after scratches 6-7/13/2-4/4-5-6/6/1-3-7

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

5th race: 2 - sciacca's italian charge should win here, ramon a plus...3 - fiona fraud, how many chances?

The frauds are the connections, who always seem to put Fiona in a situation where she has to do all the running. Look at her races, she's always in the mix -- at the wrong time, given the setups -- running her heart out. I suppose, sooner or later, she just might get a patient trip.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

4th race: 7 - most likely as chavez/gullo on fire...6 - 1ster works out as fast as the others have run...

5th race: 2 - sciacca's italian charge should win here, ramon a plus...3 - fiona fraud, how many chances?

6th race: 1POE - if not for the tagg next door would be the lock of the day...2 - tagg next door only one that can beat the favorite

7th race: 4 of them can win (4,5,6,7), 4 of them can't (the others)...don't really care for the 7 all that much and like the 6 the best of the remaining 3

8th race: 6 - surprise package at 15-1...throw out last (ugly incident) and her times from last year are the fastest even though her figs aren't

9th race: in order of preference...9,3,1,7...9 cuts back and drops, winner...3 - weaver due...1 and 7 logical out of same race...

6-7/2-3/1-2/4-5-6/6/1-3-7-9

Save perhaps the 8th race, please don't bet tomorrow.

[dylbert]

R4: 1,5,7
R5: 2
R6: 1,2,3,4,7
R7: 4,5,7,8
R8: 3,4,6,8
R9: 1,2,7,12

$1,920

I am taking stand in Race 5 by singling #2 Tutti Va Bene. Single allows me to go deeper in Races 6-9. I had stronger opinion about my "B" horses and abandoned "C" horses in favor of caveman ticket approach throughout sequence.

Limited time makes this do-or-die, stay-on-the-turf ticket. Good luck to all... I will get results after work tomorrow evening.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Save perhaps the 8th race, please don't bet tomorrow.

You think she really wants 7F?

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Save perhaps the 8th race, please don't bet tomorrow.

The chances they will be running turf races on both courses tomorrow would be?

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

The frauds are the connections, who always seem to put Fiona in a situation where she has to do all the running. Look at her races, she's always in the mix -- at the wrong time, given the setups -- running her heart out. I suppose, sooner or later, she just might get a patient trip.

You are right. Horse has received some bad rides/early moves certainly in her last 3. But I do wonder how can the same horse be ridden so poorly by so many different jocks? Hard to bet her to win. Especially at 2/1! And Corny showed in the last race that he didn't learn much from his mount on her in early May. I like the Sciacca horse on the drop if they stay on the turf but the 8, Dear Contender, is interesting at 10/1. If it comes off, Donna's Sandee, Green Harbor and Quonata look interesting. When am I ever gonna be able to handicap a NY race without so many considerations for the weather!?!?!

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by docicu3

The chances they will be running turf races on both courses tomorrow would be?

lol, do they have a turf course at Belmont? Had more moisture over-night. But I'll be checking.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

You think she really wants 7F?

Probably not, but she's a big price, and obviously her last was better than it looks. I would use her defensively.

The 5th is off the turf......good news for everyone that seems so enamored with Sciacca's horse.

[ironprospect]

#1

5 6 7
13
1 7 10 11
4 5 6 7
1 3 4 6 8 9 10 11 12
7 10 ..............................$1728

#2

5 6
11
1 7 10
5 6
1 3 4 6 8 9 10 11 12
7...................................$216

#3

5 6
11
11
5 6
6 8
7 10...............................$32....total$1976

[CSC]

Mask And Wig may be a horse worth taking on today in the first, perfect trip last time, will be overbet...

[Gaelic Storm]

I just watched the race from 5/20/09 with WC Jones and Mind Boggling. Mind Boggling looked like he had a good rail trip but was a little hesitant to go inside a horse in the stretch and ran on well when he got free. WC Jones ha a good trip but was wide and was passed by a horse to his inside. Mind Boggling will be a better price today WC has more upside but if you like 1 I think you have to play both. Didn't anyone see that race differently? Cough Drop looked like he deserves another chance.

[blackthroatedwind]

Personally, and maybe he will be bailed out by the other half of the entry, I don't see how anyone could take a short price on WC Jones. I thought he was absolutely brutal last time.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by CSC

Mask And Wig may be a horse worth taking on today in the first, perfect trip last time, will be overbet...

Eltish Star could be worth a shot at a price

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Personally, and maybe he will be bailed out by the other half of the entry, I don't see how anyone could take a short price on WC Jones. I thought he was absolutely brutal last time.

i thought maragh's ride was pretty poor last time and off of an 11 month layoff the effort was pretty good. in his race before the layoff he ran his last 5/16ths in 28.4...a repeat of that effort is good for the win here, no?

EDIT:NEVERMIND he is scratched

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

EDIT:NEVERMIND he is scratched

Bad opinions bailed out again!

[pmacdaddy]

Was going to single Super Child in finale if it was Off Turf. May stick to pk4 with real $$

Contest tix:

R4 - 5,6,7
R5 - 10,13
R6 - 5,7
R7 - 4,5,7,8
R8 - 3,8,10,13
R9 - 1,3,7,10
$1,536

R4 - 5,6,7
R5* - 4
R6 - 5,7
R7 - 4,5,7,8
R8 - 8,13
R9 - 1,3,7,10
$384

GL!

[CSC]

Originally Posted by gales0678

Eltish Star could be worth a shot at a price

I'm perplexed by The Sidney Dutrow horse, will he run a better race 2nd off the layoff...or was his last race a true indication of his ability... it looks like Day Dee will get early pressure from Blue Bullet.