Weekend Beyers

Kasept · #1 06-22-2009, 07:19 AM

DEL-Obeah (G3): UNBRIDLED BELLE 105
DEL-Susan's Girl: BON JOVI GIRL 103
CNL-Colonial Turf Cup (G2): BATTLE OF HASTINGS 92
CNL-All Along (G3): WINTER VIEW 94
BEL-New York (G2-Off the Turf): ICON PROJECT 106
CT-Dash: TRUST OR BUST 94
CT-Red Legend: BIG DRAMA 104
CT-Lady: JULIET'S SPIRIT 88
CT-WildnWndrfl: NO ADVANTAGE 99
HOL-Kerlan (L): DELTA STORM 99
HOL-Affirmed (G3): GRAZEN 100
HOL-Cinema (G3): OIL MAN 87
WO-Highlander (G3): SMART ENOUGH 102
WO-Singspiel (G2): MUSKETEER 97
WO-Queen's Plate (R): EYE OF THE LEOPARD 92

Others:
BEL (6/17-ALW): ROLLERS 107
AP (6/20-MSW): COLONEL KLINK 75
DEL (6/17-ALW): NICANOR 93

-BT- · #2 06-22-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

DEL-Obeah (G3): UNBRIDLED BELLE 105
DEL-Susan's Girl: BON JOVI GIRL 103
CNL-Colonial Turf Cup (G2): BATTLE OF HASTINGS TBD
CNL-All Along (G3): WINTER VIEW TBD
BEL-New York (G2-Off the Turf): ICON PROJECT 106
CT-Dash: TRUST OR BUST 94
CT-Red Legend: BIG DRAMA 104
CT-Lady: JULIET'S SPIRIT 88
CT-WildnWndrfl: NO ADVANTAGE 99
HOL-Kerlan (L): DELTA STORM 99
HOL-Affirmed (G3): GRAZEN TBD
HOL-Cinema (G3): OIL MAN TBD
WO-Highlander (G3): SMART ENOUGH 102
WO-Singspiel (G2): MUSKETEER TBD
WO-Queen's Plate (R): EYE OF THE LEOPARD TBD

Others:
BEL (6/17-ALW): ROLLERS 107
AP (6/20-MSW): COLONEL KLINK 75
DEL (6/17-ALW): NICANOR 93

didn't see the race, but drama pulling off a triple digit beyer at the bull ring is pretty impressive.

also good to see a solid number come back for the poly specialist col. klink

-bt-

videogirl10 · #3 06-22-2009, 12:44 PM

I was there. He ran a nice race, settling in nicely and drawing off when asked. I was also surprised how small he was.

And there was a good crowd on hand. Probably the most people I have seen at the CT track. Great night of racing.

SniperSB23 · #4 06-22-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

CNL-Colonial Turf Cup (G2): BATTLE OF HASTINGS TBD

Does TBD mean "we can't possibly come up with a figure to adequately quantify the lack of quality in this G2 stakes"?

brianwspencer · #5 06-22-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Does TBD mean "we can't possibly come up with a figure to adequately quantify the lack of quality in this G2 stakes"?

Can't they just call it a 106 and then change it in a few months and a few races from now if it's wrong?

blackthroatedwind · #6 06-22-2009, 03:52 PM

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Can't they just call it a 106 and then change it in a few months and a few races from now if it's wrong?

Is that supposed to be funny, clever, or stupid?

The Indomitable DrugS · #7 06-22-2009, 03:59 PM

They should do figs after the fact for most turf races anyway.

brianwspencer · #8 06-22-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Is that supposed to be funny, clever, or stupid?

As you astutely determined, a fine mix of all three.

blackthroatedwind · #9 06-22-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

As you astutely determined, a fine mix of all three.

A combination that makes for the best posts.

docicu3 · #10 06-22-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

As you astutely determined, a fine mix of all three.

Kind of like establishing a number for all the handle NYRA has lost with Belmont races coming off the turf this meet. Especially the days where the main dries out under the sun and is upgraded throughout the day eventually to fast.

Surely there is a guesstimate involved with this number as well...

brianwspencer · #11 06-22-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

A combination that makes for the best posts.

I do my best.

cmorioles · #12 06-22-2009, 09:00 PM

I think Battle of Hastings got a 92, which seems a little low to me in a race with an honest pace.

As for Big Drama, how is running a triple digit Beyer at a bullring any more impressive than running it on a full sized track?

CSC · #13 06-22-2009, 09:06 PM

When handicapping the Colonial Turf Cup earlier this week, I thought a low 90's beyer would have been the number to win it or atleast it would have been competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if the final number will be in this neighbourhood.

NTamm1215 · #14 06-22-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

I think Battle of Hastings got a 92, which seems a little low to me in a race with an honest pace.

As for Big Drama, how is running a triple digit Beyer at a bullring any more impressive than running it on a full sized track?

I'm thinking the comment in question had more to do with the infrequency of triple digit Beyers at CT than with Big Drama's ability to achieve them on either 8 furlong tracks or 6 furlong ovals.

NT

the_fat_man · #15 06-22-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

I think Battle of Hastings got a 92, which seems a little low to me in a race with an honest pace.

They went 6-1-8-2-3 around the track, in terms of position. Are we supposed to upgrade the on the pacers, then, Captain?

NTamm1215 · #16 06-22-2009, 09:17 PM

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They went 6-1-8-2-3 around the track, in terms of position. Are we supposed to upgrade the on the pacers, then, Captain?

No matter how you stack it I thought Straight Story ran a pretty good race.

NT

the_fat_man · #17 06-22-2009, 09:22 PM

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No matter how you stack it I thought Straight Story ran a pretty good race. NT

This was a race where the on the pacers got the best of it, IMO, and the winner, while making a nice run from off the pace, was aided by an insidish trip (if memory serves me correctly). As for your guy, I wonder if the situation is different if Kent doesn't take over the pace setting duties and thus relieve him of the dirty work.

CSC · #18 06-22-2009, 09:28 PM

I'm not saying he would have won but didn't Al Khali look dangerously like he was on the verge of stealing the race until he inexplicably drifted wide going into the stretch.

eajinabi · #19 06-22-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

No matter how you stack it I thought Straight Story ran a pretty good race.

NT

Horse ran a good race indeed but was not given the best ride.

NTamm1215 · #20 06-22-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

This was a race where the on the pacers got the best of it, IMO, and the winner, while making a nice run from off the pace, was aided by an insidish trip (if memory serves me correctly). As for your guy, I wonder if the situation is different if Kent doesn't take over the pace setting duties and thus relieve him of the dirty work.

I'll take the runner-up over the winner of that race happily the next time they face off. Desormeaux blew the race apart with his move around the first turn, but it's not like Straight Story ever really got to relax. After loafing for the opening quarter they sped it up quite a bit. The two internal quarters between the the 2f and 6f mark were pretty strong and SS responded well despite being put to a drive with about 3fs to go and being carried to the 8 path by the future 35k claimer Al Khali.

Battle of Hastings got basically the same insanely great trip that Julia Tuttle did in the filly race. The difference is BoH has some talent. I do, however, think he's absolutely stretched to the max going more than 9 furlongs. Given the disadvantage Straight Story was at in terms of seasoning, I thought he ran really well and is certainly a decent horse.

NT