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Old 01-24-2010, 03:48 PM
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Don't anyone ever ignore leg pain. I did, and it cost me dearly. Jan. 9, 2008, I had a stroke. Totally paralyzed on my left side. I was with my husband when it happened, and he got me to ER within 10 minutes. Anyone who has had a stroke has a 2 hour window to get treatment. I was lucky. The paralysis lasted 3 hours, and then I was fine again. But, they didn't let me out of the hospital until 3 days later. Did all kinds of tests. Cat scan showed nothing, but MRI did.

I do not fit the profile for a stroke - don't smoke, don't drink much, no high blood pressure, no diabetes, cholesterol is well under 200, no family history, etc., etc., etc. I asked my doctor how come. He said that 20% of stroke victims do not fit the stroke profile.

I'm on Plavix and Crestor - even though my cholesterol #'s were good, they put me on it anyway. No one would notice I had any aftereffects from the stroke, but I notice I have some balance issues.

Take care everyone, and never take your health for granted.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:32 PM
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Look into taking serrapeptase, which is a proteolytic enzyme derived from silkworms.

It digests blood clots, among other harmful things, and has been proven to be more effective than any prescription drugs, without the side effects.

It's relatively inexpensive, won't mess you up with side effects and dissolves clots faster than anything that can be prescribed to you.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:55 PM
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Look into taking serrapeptase, which is a proteolytic enzyme derived from silkworms.

It digests blood clots, among other harmful things, and has been proven to be more effective than any prescription drugs, without the side effects.

It's relatively inexpensive, won't mess you up with side effects and dissolves clots faster than anything that can be prescribed to you.
I've been doing a lot of reading about coumadin and a lot of the healthy things I do for myself like drink green tea; take CoQ10; Fish Oils; Omega 3s; cranberry and eating dark green leafy veggies are actually not recommended for consumation if you are on coumadin.
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:35 PM
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I've been doing a lot of reading about coumadin and a lot of the healthy things I do for myself like drink green tea; take CoQ10; Fish Oils; Omega 3s; cranberry and eating dark green leafy veggies are actually not recommended for consumation if you are on coumadin.
Here goes.

So, don't take coumadin. If you feel safer, then maybe look into getting off that shitt once you are through this situation.
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:44 PM
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Look into taking serrapeptase, which is a proteolytic enzyme derived from silkworms.

It digests blood clots, among other harmful things, and has been proven to be more effective than any prescription drugs, without the side effects.

It's relatively inexpensive, won't mess you up with side effects and dissolves clots faster than anything that can be prescribed to you.
Thanks for that info, IC. I'll talk to my GP about this. My husband and I are both on statins. We had some muscle soreness which was alarming. But we take Co-Enzyme Q-10 - Bill taks 300 mgs. and I take 200 mgs. Muscle aches are gone. But, I don't necessarily like statins - just thought they were a necessary damned if you do, damned if you don't alternative. My GP tried me on some fiber type pills. They were the size of suppositories, and I had to take four of them a day. That wore thin after awhile, and they weren't doing anything to lower my #s.

Right now, I'm at 162 cholesterol with 89 HDLs and 68 LDLs. Triglycerides are under 100. So, I'm cool for now. But, if I could find something that would work as well and not a statin, that would be great.

Having a stroke is scary and I was a basket case for about 6 mos. afterwards. 2008 was a really bad, bad year - a stroke, 3 kidney stones, 2 bouts with pneumonia, a broken ankle, a back injury, a ruptured gall bladder, peritonitis, flirted with the angels, then surgery spending 3 weeks in Saratoga hospital where I missed Curlin's run in the Woodward. That was the WORSE part.

But I'll take another 2009 in 2010. It was a totally awesome year. So far, this year is going good, too - Rachel, Scott Brown, and now Lloydobler.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:25 PM
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Thanks for that info, IC. I'll talk to my GP about this. My husband and I are both on statins. We had some muscle soreness which was alarming. But we take Co-Enzyme Q-10 - Bill taks 300 mgs. and I take 200 mgs. Muscle aches are gone. But, I don't necessarily like statins - just thought they were a necessary damned if you do, damned if you don't alternative. My GP tried me on some fiber type pills. They were the size of suppositories, and I had to take four of them a day. That wore thin after awhile, and they weren't doing anything to lower my #s.

Right now, I'm at 162 cholesterol with 89 HDLs and 68 LDLs. Triglycerides are under 100. So, I'm cool for now. But, if I could find something that would work as well and not a statin, that would be great.

Having a stroke is scary and I was a basket case for about 6 mos. afterwards. 2008 was a really bad, bad year - a stroke, 3 kidney stones, 2 bouts with pneumonia, a broken ankle, a back injury, a ruptured gall bladder, peritonitis, flirted with the angels, then surgery spending 3 weeks in Saratoga hospital where I missed Curlin's run in the Woodward. That was the WORSE part.

But I'll take another 2009 in 2010. It was a totally awesome year. So far, this year is going good, too - Rachel, Scott Brown, and now Lloydobler.
Statins kill far more people than they help. If you want to lower cholesterol naturally, try a red yeast rice supplement. They've been PROVEN to be more effective than any statin at lowering cholesterol without the liver destroying side effects you are currently receiving. Your doctor will almost certainly know nothing about it, since as a natural substance, the pharma companies cannot patent it and thus make criminally high profit margins on it.

Use Google to do a little research.

By the way, the reason most people have high cholesterol is because your body uses it to make hormones, repair certain types of tissue, etc. It's a very useful building block that has become demonized as a culprit in heart disease. In actuality, the repercussions from not having elevated cholesterol as a response to a serious condition is much worse than having it elevated.

Within twenty years this whole statin thing to lower cholesterol practice will be looked back at like "what was everyone thinking back then?"

Here come the flames.
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Old 01-25-2010, 12:42 AM
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Statins kill far more people than they help. If you want to lower cholesterol naturally, try a red yeast rice supplement. They've been PROVEN to be more effective than any statin at lowering cholesterol without the liver destroying side effects you are currently receiving. Your doctor will almost certainly know nothing about it, since as a natural substance, the pharma companies cannot patent it and thus make criminally high profit margins on it.

Use Google to do a little research.

By the way, the reason most people have high cholesterol is because your body uses it to make hormones, repair certain types of tissue, etc. It's a very useful building block that has become demonized as a culprit in heart disease. In actuality, the repercussions from not having elevated cholesterol as a response to a serious condition is much worse than having it elevated.

Within twenty years this whole statin thing to lower cholesterol practice will be looked back at like "what was everyone thinking back then?"

Here come the flames.
I take Now Red Yeast Rice.
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Old 01-25-2010, 02:10 AM
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Statins kill far more people than they help. If you want to lower cholesterol naturally, try a red yeast rice supplement. They've been PROVEN to be more effective than any statin at lowering cholesterol without the liver destroying side effects you are currently receiving. Your doctor will almost certainly know nothing about it, since as a natural substance, the pharma companies cannot patent it and thus make criminally high profit margins on it.

Use Google to do a little research.

By the way, the reason most people have high cholesterol is because your body uses it to make hormones, repair certain types of tissue, etc. It's a very useful building block that has become demonized as a culprit in heart disease. In actuality, the repercussions from not having elevated cholesterol as a response to a serious condition is much worse than having it elevated.

Within twenty years this whole statin thing to lower cholesterol practice will be looked back at like "what was everyone thinking back then?"

Here come the flames.
This is very true but more importantly SIGHTSEEK why didn't your doctor tell you about the contraindications or give you a list of what to ingest or not? That is something you should call the hospital's patient advocate about
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:49 AM
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I take Now Red Yeast Rice.
I like Now Foods stuff. Their active ingredients are the same as just about anyone else and I don't know why so few others follow them in making their supplements more affordable.

How's it working for you?
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:57 AM
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Statins kill far more people than they help. If you want to lower cholesterol naturally, try a red yeast rice supplement. They've been PROVEN to be more effective than any statin at lowering cholesterol without the liver destroying side effects you are currently receiving. Your doctor will almost certainly know nothing about it, since as a natural substance, the pharma companies cannot patent it and thus make criminally high profit margins on it.

Use Google to do a little research.

By the way, the reason most people have high cholesterol is because your body uses it to make hormones, repair certain types of tissue, etc. It's a very useful building block that has become demonized as a culprit in heart disease. In actuality, the repercussions from not having elevated cholesterol as a response to a serious condition is much worse than having it elevated.

Within twenty years this whole statin thing to lower cholesterol practice will be looked back at like "what was everyone thinking back then?"

Here come the flames.
No flames from me,Charlie! I'm impressed with your pro-active stance....probably thru painful experiences,huh? Where do you get this serrapeptase? Is NOW foods through a catalog?
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Old 01-25-2010, 02:29 PM
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No flames from me,Charlie! I'm impressed with your pro-active stance....probably thru painful experiences,huh? Where do you get this serrapeptase? Is NOW foods through a catalog?
NOW Foods is a huge brand and can be found many places. It's always cheaper to buy online.

I'd try swansonsvitamins.com, allstarhealth.com, maybe iherb.com.

Also Amazon.com come to think of it, which is where I got some serrapeptase when I had a clot in my arm (which it took care of).
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I like Now Foods stuff. Their active ingredients are the same as just about anyone else and I don't know why so few others follow them in making their supplements more affordable.

How's it working for you?
My cholesterol is always going to be a tad high. My great-grandmother had extremely high cholesterol and she lived for 99 years.

I'm not too concerned about it.
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Old 01-26-2010, 06:08 PM
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Statins kill far more people than they help. If you want to lower cholesterol naturally, try a red yeast rice supplement. They've been PROVEN to be more effective than any statin at lowering cholesterol without the liver destroying side effects you are currently receiving. Your doctor will almost certainly know nothing about it, since as a natural substance, the pharma companies cannot patent it and thus make criminally high profit margins on it.

Use Google to do a little research.

By the way, the reason most people have high cholesterol is because your body uses it to make hormones, repair certain types of tissue, etc. It's a very useful building block that has become demonized as a culprit in heart disease. In actuality, the repercussions from not having elevated cholesterol as a response to a serious condition is much worse than having it elevated.

Within twenty years this whole statin thing to lower cholesterol practice will be looked back at like "what was everyone thinking back then?"

Here come the flames.
So... You realize of course that the effective ingredient in RYR is a statin, right? Lovastatin actually. It's effective, but I'd rather have mine actually regulated thank you.

http://heartdisease.about.com/cs/cho...Nrxcol_rry.htm

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So... You realize of course that the effective ingredient in RYR is a statin, right? Lovastatin actually. It's effective, but I'd rather have mine actually regulated thank you.

http://heartdisease.about.com/cs/cho...Nrxcol_rry.htm
You should really work on your reading comprehension.

Even if you were correct, feel free to have your regulated side effects instead of no side effects.

And yeah, the FDA has done such a bang up job regulating drugs. Without them, the death rate from prescription drugs would be considerably lower.

As it is, the leading cause of death in this country is from legally prescribed drugs, which comes in at over a whopping 3% of all deaths in the USA.

Go for it.
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My reading comprehension is fine, thank you.
>>>In the 2009 study, the investigators performed a formal chemical analysis on the RYR product they used in their study (from Sylvan Bioproducts in Kittanning, Pennsylvania). They found that the RYR contained monacolin K (the naturally-occurring form of lovastatin), as well as eight other monacolins (statins or statin-like substances).

The result of this chemical analysis suggests two things. First, that RYR available in the U.S. apparently still contains at least some lovastatin,
<<<

You're point was that statins kill. That is ridiculous, and highly hypocritical if you think this crap is a "holistic" alternative.

Personally, I think it it is all bunk. There are plenty of skinny, active, and healthy adults that have what the pharmaceutical industry deems as "high cholesterol". It is just very convenient, and brilliant by the way, marketing campaign by the drug companies to make the majority of the population believe that they can still be fat, not exercise, and take a pill to save themselves. The two are mutually exclusive and have nothing to heart disease.
Fat + lazy = heart disease...and they probably have high cholesterol.
Active, healthy + High cholesterol = a long healthy life.

You can not draw a direct correlation, as much as the drug pushers want you to believe there is one.

Keep eating Chinese mold - if you think it is helping you, that's half the battle.
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Old 01-27-2010, 06:12 AM
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My reading comprehension is fine, thank you.
>>>In the 2009 study, the investigators performed a formal chemical analysis on the RYR product they used in their study (from Sylvan Bioproducts in Kittanning, Pennsylvania). They found that the RYR contained monacolin K (the naturally-occurring form of lovastatin), as well as eight other monacolins (statins or statin-like substances).

The result of this chemical analysis suggests two things. First, that RYR available in the U.S. apparently still contains at least some lovastatin,
<<<

You're point was that statins kill. That is ridiculous, and highly hypocritical if you think this crap is a "holistic" alternative.

Personally, I think it it is all bunk. There are plenty of skinny, active, and healthy adults that have what the pharmaceutical industry deems as "high cholesterol". It is just very convenient, and brilliant by the way, marketing campaign by the drug companies to make the majority of the population believe that they can still be fat, not exercise, and take a pill to save themselves. The two are mutually exclusive and have nothing to heart disease.
Fat + lazy = heart disease...and they probably have high cholesterol.
Active, healthy + High cholesterol = a long healthy life.

You can not draw a direct correlation, as much as the drug pushers want you to believe there is one.

Keep eating Chinese mold - if you think it is helping you, that's half the battle.
I'd say it's more than half.
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Keep eating Chinese mold - if you think it is helping you, that's half the battle.
Sure will.
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