Zenyatta - Page 3

Payson Dave · #41 03-13-2010, 07:17 PM

Is there anyone who does not think they are both pretty special??.... as to who is better....until they actually face each other on dirt it's all just conjecture 'n bullshit proclaiming who's the better one.

mbahadur · #42 03-13-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

her one race at Oaklawn was her largest margin of victory.

And let's not forget that in this race she beat the winner of the previous year's BC Distaff (on dirt) in Ginger Punch.

pointman · #43 03-13-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

her one race at Oaklawn was her largest margin of victory.

Which is great. I have no doubt that she will put in a decent run at Oaklawn. Certainly horses shipping in from California have taken to the Oaklawn dirt recently. However, I still want to see her prove it on dirt against a quality horse like Rachel. I still think that if Rachel is a 100% fit she will be the better of the two.

However, I am not ready to crown either one until they hit the finish line in the Apple Blossem. Frankly, I hope that they are both fit and ready on 4/9 and answer the question that everyone has on the racetrack.

packerbacker7964 · #44 03-13-2010, 07:21 PM

Z better be glad the other horse in her trainers stable ran at the fairgrounds today that's all I'm saying

RockHardTen1985 · #45 03-13-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave

Is there anyone who does not think they are both pretty special??.... as to who is better....until they actually face each other on dirt it's all just conjecture 'n bullshit proclaiming who's the better one.

They are both great, amazing horses, but Z is better.

Danzig · #46 03-13-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave

Is there anyone who does not think they are both pretty special??.... as to who is better....until they actually face each other on dirt it's all just conjecture 'n bullshit proclaiming who's the better one.

sadly, there are some who think one or the other isn't special, when in fact both are.

i didn't see either race. i'll have to go to twinspires to see the replays. we didn't get home in time from quiz bowl regionals (our team won, yay! my son was mvp-a bit of bragging is warranted i think!)....anyway, i hope they're both as close to 100% in a few weeks time as possible, and that they are still able to have the race.

dalakhani · #47 03-13-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

Z better be glad the other horse in her trainers stable ran at the fairgrounds today that's all I'm saying

so you are saying that Zardana beats Zenyatta today or any other day?

Danzig · #48 03-13-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

They are both great, amazing horses, but Z is better.

an opinion, but certainly not a fact as for the moment you can't prove it. you can give reasons til the cows come home for having that opinion....but that doesn't mean you proved it.

GPK · #49 03-13-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

This is so old... Her Apple Blossom win WAS AWESOME AND really easy. No reasson to think she would not improve right now, AGAIN on dirt.

Hey genious, she is a 5 yo Mare. She's not gonna improve anymore. Unless switched to Wolfson of course.

dalakhani · #50 03-13-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

sadly, there are some who think one or the other isn't special, when in fact both are.

i didn't see either race. i'll have to go to twinspires to see the replays. we didn't get home in time from quiz bowl regionals (our team won, yay! my son was mvp-a bit of bragging is warranted i think!)....anyway, i hope they're both as close to 100% in a few weeks time as possible, and that they are still able to have the race.

One of them beat a field of pigs but did it stylishly after some trouble.

The other one was way short.

Payson Dave · #51 03-13-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

They are both great, amazing horses, but Z is better.

opinions are like ......

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in this game you make money when your opinion is correct and you lose when it is not.... I seem to recall your opinion being wrong at least as much as anyone elses

mbahadur · #52 03-13-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

so you are saying that Zardana beats Zenyatta today or any other day?

I wonder if Shirreffs/Zetcher would run Zardana against Zenyatta in the Apple Blossom. Jerry Moss seemed okay with it in the interview after Zenyatta's win. But if RA does not go in the Apple Blossom, the purse will drop dramatically.

Danzig · #53 03-13-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Hey genious, she is a 5 yo Mare. She's not gonna improve anymore. Unless switched to Wolfson of course.

actually, i think she's six now.

honestly tho--if i were the mosses, i wouldn't travel. keep her home and get the win streak record. not saying she'd lose travelling....but why mess with something when it's not broken? she hasn't shipped out of cali in a year, shipped and raced in two....
i have to wonder now how it's going to unfold. if jackson backs out, citing lack of readiness, zenyatta won't come anyway because the big purse goes away.

Danzig · #54 03-13-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mbahadur

I wonder if Shirreffs/Zetcher would run Zardana against Zenyatta in the Apple Blossom. Jerry Moss seemed okay with it in the interview after Zenyatta's win. But if RA does not go in the Apple Blossom, the purse will drop dramatically.

i see zardana staying and running in ark, and zenyatta staying in cali if rachel doesn't show.

packerbacker7964 · #55 03-13-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

so you are saying that Zardana beats Zenyatta today or any other day?

Zeny had an easier group than did Rachel. Even though she won once she found some room. Zeny was running against a weaker group today for sure. Rachel on the other hand ran into a buzz saw today that horse can flat out fly.

pointman · #56 03-13-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave

opinions are like ......

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in this game you make money when your opinion is correct and you lose when it is not.... I seem to recall your opinion being wrong at least as much as anyone elses

He's gearing up to put $1,000 to win on Z in the Apple Blossem and if she wins he will no doubt bust out his pom poms and tell us he is the best handicapper in the world!

GPK · #57 03-13-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

sadly, there are some who think one or the other isn't special, when in fact both are.

i didn't see either race. i'll have to go to twinspires to see the replays. we didn't get home in time from quiz bowl regionals (our team won, yay! my son was mvp-a bit of bragging is warranted i think!)....anyway, i hope they're both as close to 100% in a few weeks time as possible, and that they are still able to have the race.

Deb, nice reboard on your sons win and mvp

Danzig · #58 03-13-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Deb, nice reboard on your sons win and mvp

lol
that poor quiz bowl sponsor has had one zeigler or another (and one year, kelly and eric at the same time) for eight years now. i asked her if she was ready to be zeigler-free?

we're heading to the state comp in a few weeks (april 10-wonder what races i'll miss?) and then he made the all-star competition.....

so glad he's graduating in a few months!

btw, didn't win a dime.

GPK · #59 03-13-2010, 07:37 PM

Although I'm sure they are a little dissapointed, I can imagine Jackson/Assmusan are too terribly upset in losing a prep race.

the_fat_man · #60 03-13-2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

He's gearing up to put $1,000 to win on Z in the Apple Blossem and if she wins he will no doubt bust out his pom poms and tell us he is the best handicapper in the world!

How is this different from making sure to always check a certain someone's NYRA picks before putting down YOUR money? At least he basically has his OWN opinion.

Enjoy the day's events.