Zenyatta assigned 129 pounds for Vanity

[2Hot4TV]

Now the great race mare Zenyatta will carry 129 in a short field and do you think that if Smith gives St. Trinian's a 8 to 10 lenght lead at the 1/4 pole with a 10 pound weight differance,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,can she catch her?

HHHHHuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmm, I would be pretty amazing if she does.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Now the great race mare Zenyatta will carry 129 in a short field and do you think that if Smith gives St. Trinian's a 8 to 10 lenght lead at the 1/4 pole with a 10 pound weight differance,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,can she catch her?

HHHHHuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmm, I would be pretty amazing if she does.

9 pounds, and yes .

[2Hot4TV]

St.trinians can run and it looks like the race sets up for her to be the target at the quarter pole. She doesnt quit and has a good turn of foot.

I dont think she can catch her.

The Zanyatta camp is taking a risk running in this race.

[Indian Charlie]

I'd be amazed if she runs

[hurricanefrank]

8-5 that Team Zenyatta says no thanks to this spot.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

St.trinians can run and it looks like the race sets up for her to be the target at the quarter pole. She doesnt quit and has a good turn of foot.

I dont think she can catch her.

The Zanyatta camp is taking a risk running in this race.

Every race theoretically is a risk .

I have a healthy respect for the egg beater St. Trinians, however .

[jimmy the T]

135 lbs would give every one a better chance

[randallscott35]

Built in excuse....she'll run.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

St.trinians can run and it looks like the race sets up for her to be the target at the quarter pole. She doesnt quit and has a good turn of foot.

I dont think she can catch her.

The Zanyatta camp is taking a risk running in this race.

yeah we dont want that...

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO0h4oyb6WI

130lbs

beating Educated Risk, Dispute and You'd be Surprised

You'd be Surprised 120
Trainer:Mack Miller
Owner: Rokeby Stable
Winnings: 23 Starts: 10 - 8 - 1, $606,007

At 4: WON Top Flight H. (G1), John A. Morris H. (G1), Gallorette H. (G3), 2ND: Capital Holding Mile S.; 3RD Hempstead H. (G1)
At 5 - WON New York H.(G2), 2ND: John A. Morris H. (G1), Saratoga Breeders' Cup H., Hempstead H. (G1)

Educated Risk 114
Owner: Ogden Mills Phipps
Trainer: Shug Mcgaughey
Winnings: 23 Starts: 11 - 6 - 4, $1,613,717

At 2: Won Frizette S.(G1), 2nd Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies S.(G1), Matron S.(G1)
At 3: 2nd Acorn S.(G1), 3rd Test S.(G1), Prioress S.(G2)
At 4: Won Top Flight H.(G1), Churchill Downs Breeders' Cup (G2), Virginia H.(G3), 2nd Beldame S.(G1), Rampart H.(G2), 3rd Ruffian H.(G1)
At 5: Won Rampart H.(G2), Shirley Jones H.(G3).

Dispute 117
Owner: Ogden Mills Phipps
Trainer: Shug McGaughey
Winnings: 19 Starts: 9 - 4 - 4, $1,106,906

1st: Kentucky Oaks (G1,CD,9F), Beldame (G1,Bel,9F), Gazelle (G1,Bel,9F), Spinster (G1,Kee,9F), Bonnie Miss (G2,8.5F,GP)
2nd: Astarita S., Ruffian H. (2x), Mother Goose S.
3rd: Nijana S., Bed o'Roses H., John A. Morris H.
4th: Breeders' Cup Distaff

Link River 110
Owner: Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al Maktoum
Trainer: Bill Mott
Winnings: 14 Starts: 6 - 2 - 0, $273,243

At 4: Won John A. Morris H. (G1); 2nd Go For Wand S. (G1)

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

yeah we dont want that...

Just my point. They have been so selective to the spots and now that they clearly are going to hope that they go undefeated to the Breeders Cup and try to win the Classic, beating the boys 2 years in a row to cement her greatness forever.( In time we will die and on paper it will look to impressive to question.)

[Merlinsky]

I hope Sky Beauty makes it in the Hall next year. Someone's gonna have to pitch me why Smarty Jones should, esp. if they wanna argue it before her. She showed everybody how it's done there.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

I hope Sky Beauty makes it in the Hall next year. Someone's gonna have to pitch me why Smarty Jones should, esp. if they wanna argue it before her. She showed everybody how it's done there.

Those trips across the Alleghenies ruined her reputation.

[Cannon Shell]

The hall of fame is really going to become a joke. Horses are going to be elected on reputation rather than accomplishment. There are already too many jockeys in there. Seriously every rider that was in the top 5 for 10 years or more in NY or CA the last 30 years is in. What kind of club is it if everyone gets in? There was some deserved hand wringing about Point given being elected. But that is just the tip of the iceberg. Personally I dont think Best Pal should have been put in. He just was never that good. I obviously didnt see a whole lot of the horses from the 60's and before but there isnt one horse that I saw that I wouldnt have taken over Best Pal. Of course now his accomplishment look better when you compare them to the current older horses which each year seem to be a little more disgraceful. It is Like Jaime Moyer being elected to the baseball HoF. Point Given is like Albert Belle.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The hall of fame is really going to become a joke. Horses are going to be elected on reputation rather than accomplishment. There are already too many jockeys in there. Seriously every rider that was in the top 5 for 10 years or more in NY or CA the last 30 years is in. What kind of club is it if everyone gets in? There was some deserved hand wringing about Point given being elected. But that is just the tip of the iceberg. Personally I dont think Best Pal should have been put in. He just was never that good. I obviously didnt see a whole lot of the horses from the 60's and before but there isnt one horse that I saw that I wouldnt have taken over Best Pal. Of course now his accomplishment look better when you compare them to the current older horses which each year seem to be a little more disgraceful. It is Like Jaime Moyer being elected to the baseball HoF. Point Given is like Albert Belle.

Don't insult Belle.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Don't insult Belle.

Joey belle

[Cannon Shell]

If Best Pal and Point Given are in the hall of fame then Bet Twice and Lost Code should be in as well.

[Cannon Shell]

Why not Java Gold? Forty Niner? Chiefs Crown? Spend a Buck? Ferdinand?

Would anyone have taken Best Pal in a race against any of these non-hall of fame horses?

If you are going to elect Smarty jones and company you better go back and reevaluate these horses

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Why not Java Gold? Forty Niner? Chiefs Crown? Spend a Buck? Ferdinand?

Would anyone have taken Best Pal in a race against any of these non-hall of fame horses?

If you are going to elect Smarty jones and company you better go back and reevaluate these horses

I think to some degree you're knocking Best Pal for continuing to run way beyond his prime.

On paper, he was one of the most accomplished 2yos of recent memory and he was definitely in a zone as a 4yo in an abbreviated season.

That said, I don't think he should be in the HOF if some of the others you mentioned aren't.

[alysheba4]

have to say no.