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Old 06-29-2010, 12:06 AM
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Default Dumdolphin up to their old tricks again

Just read they are aiming Desert Party for all one turn races the rest of the year, with the Forego the next big target, followed by the BC dirt mile.

Do they seriously believe this horse is a sprinter?????????

Regal Ransom makes his comeback in the Suburban.

They are hard to figure out sometimes.
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Old 06-29-2010, 12:14 AM
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I was reading that article and I wonder if they even realize that the Vanderbilt is now a Grade 1.
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:01 AM
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Just read they are aiming Desert Party for all one turn races the rest of the year, with the Forego the next big target, followed by the BC dirt mile.

Do they seriously believe this horse is a sprinter?????????

They are hard to figure out sometimes.
Godolphin can't win, ever, really...right...

Because if they came out tomorrow and said Desert Party will be aimed for the classic races, over 9 and 10 furlongs, people would be on here saying that they are crazy, his two wins in 2010 were over six and seven furlongs, and he did both of them easy, he seems to enjoy sprinting...etc...

Come on.
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:08 AM
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Werent they supposed to have two or three Derby wins by now?
They have won the Italian Derby twice and the English Derby once...yeah, I know...
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:00 AM
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:07 AM
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Godolphin did win 4 grade 1 races at the Spa last year if memory serve correct so they must do some things right...right?

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Old 06-29-2010, 10:10 AM
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Godolphin has plenty of terrific horses and I love seeing them run. However, none of that makes them exempt from critical analysis.

They have spent a crazy amount of money for horses. I should hope they win some big races. However, their return on investment isn't exactly something to be proud of. Perhaps this doesn't matter to them. But, that doesn't change the bottom line.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:10 AM
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Desert Party's PPs would hardly give you an indication that he's a router.

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Old 06-29-2010, 10:15 AM
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But analyzing their decision to keep Desert Party sprinting, based on what he has done in 2010...it certainly seems the most logical. He might not be a G1 sprinter, but he surely has a better chance for success on that stage then stretching out, as NTamm said, on his PP.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:20 AM
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Seems logical to me to find a horse's strengths.

Next maybe Godolphin can run less dirt horses on synth. It's pretty weird that they spend as much money as they do for dirt horses and then build a new $10 billion dollar track and put in two turf courses.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:38 AM
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But analyzing their decision to keep Desert Party sprinting, based on what he has done in 2010...it certainly seems the most logical. He might not be a G1 sprinter, but he surely has a better chance for success on that stage then stretching out, as NTamm said, on his PP.
I think as bad as the sprinters are right now, and off of DP's last he is likely going to be a G1 sprinter very soon.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:43 AM
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Desert Party's PPs would hardly give you an indication that he's a router.

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He runs like at least like a miler. He's bred to go long, and watching him run, it seems like he's going to be a better horse going longer. By longer 8.5 to 9 furlongs being logical.

There's always the chance he has some sort of issue unknown to me, but I'm pretty confident he would stand a better chance of winning races if he doesn't have to face crack sprinters.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:44 AM
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I think as bad as the sprinters are right now, and off of DP's last he is likely going to be a G1 sprinter very soon.
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He runs like at least like a miler. He's bred to go long, and watching him run, it seems like he's going to be a better horse going longer. By longer 8.5 to 9 furlongs being logical.

There's always the chance he has some sort of issue unknown to me, but I'm pretty confident he would stand a better chance of winning races if he doesn't have to face crack sprinters.
The thing is who are the crack sprinters? There aren't any. The list of horses they really have to fear in a race like the Forego is short because no one knows if Majesticperfection can get 7fs (it seems like a possibility) and Atta Boy Roy is not the same horse going a furlong farther.

If I had a one-run horse like DP and had a choice between trying to force him into going long (which by the way he's 1-4 @ a mile or more) or cutting him back I'd opt for the latter, especially this year given what's out there.

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Old 06-29-2010, 10:57 AM
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They are also separating their horses into divisions, and obviously they feel horses like Regal Ransom and Girolamo are better suited for the longer races than Desert Party. Since they want to win Grade 1s, Desert Party's best chance to do this is, in their opinion, in sprints...especially relative to their other runners.
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Old 06-29-2010, 11:03 AM
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Old 06-29-2010, 11:05 AM
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The thing is who are the crack sprinters? There aren't any. The list of horses they really have to fear in a race like the Forego is short because no one knows if Majesticperfection can get 7fs (it seems like a possibility) and Atta Boy Roy is not the same horse going a furlong farther.

If I had a one-run horse like DP and had a choice between trying to force him into going long (which by the way he's 1-4 @ a mile or more) or cutting him back I'd opt for the latter, especially this year given what's out there.

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I only know of one crack sprinter and how can we trust him off allowance wins and a giant 117 at PM?
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Just read they are aiming Desert Party for all one turn races the rest of the year, with the Forego the next big target, followed by the BC dirt mile.
To me that seems like a perfectly logical race in which to point the horse.
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Old 06-29-2010, 01:07 PM
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Where is gm10, this thread was made for that poster.
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