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Old 08-10-2010, 05:08 PM
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3rd (3:00)

6 1/2 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($12,500 - $10,500) | Purse: $21,000

1 1 Lyphard's Dancer John K Vuocolo Al 118 $10,500 L 30-1
2 2 Stroppy Pedroza M A Canani Julio C 120 $12,500 L 4-1
3 3 Subpoena the Dress Espinoza V Schiewe Paul 120 $12,500 L 10-1
4 4 Dreams Afleet Garcia M Cerin Vladimir 120 $12,500 L 4-1
5 5 Popular Date Baze R A Bonde Jeff 120 $12,500 L 20-1
6 6 Ultra Awesome Rosario J Yakteen Tim 120 $12,500 L 7-2
7 7 Humble Maggie Go Valenzuela P A O'Neill Doug 122 $12,500 L 8-1
8 8 Stevie's Afleet Quinonez A Sadler John W 120 $12,500 L 12-1
9 9 Squeeze Me Tight Bejarano R Mitchell Mike 122 $12,500 L 3-1
10 10 Alphabet Cat Santiago Reyes C Moreno Henry 120 $12,500 L 20-1

$1 Exacta / $2 Quinella / $1 Trifecta $2 Rolling Double / $1 Rolling Pick Three $1 Superfecta (10-cent min.) / $2 Pick Six Starts



4th (3:30)

5 1/2 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 2 Year Olds Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $50,000

2 1 Zombyslayermrdarcy Espinoza V Piccioni Gerard 118 Blk-On L 12-1
3 2 Jailbird Jimmy Gihua J O'Neill Doug 1135 L 6-1
4 3 Real Cool Dude Pedroza M A Harrington P 118 L 8-1
5 4 He Be Fire N Ice Santiago Reyes C Perdomo A Pico 118 L 5-2
6 5 Bell Blitz Flores D R Blincoe Thomas H 118 L 20-1
7 6 Storddim Bejarano R O'Neill Doug 118 L 7-2
1 7 Liberal Arts Valenzuela P A Sadler John W 118 L 3-1
1A 8 Contemplated Rosario J Sadler John W 118 L 3-1
8 9 Party Ruler Nakatani C S Abrams Barry 118 L 6-1

A-Coupled: Liberal Arts and Contemplated

$1 Exacta / $2 Quinella / $1 Trifecta $2 Rolling Double / $1 Rolling Pick Three $1 Superfecta (10-cent min.)



5th (4:00)

1 Mile (All Weather Track) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($8,000 - $7,000) | Purse: $16,000

Waive Liability SCRATCHED
Wagels SCRATCHED

1 1 James Prior Santiago Reyes C Cerin Vladimir 120 $8,000 L 7-2
2 2 Mr. Rancho Vista Rosario J Sadler John W 120 $8,000 L 4-1
3 3 Bonjour (NZ) Valdez F S Knapp Steve 120 $8,000 L 20-1
4 4 Victory Joe Gonzalez A Headley Gus 1135 $7,000 L 20-1
6 5 Souvenir Slew Espinoza V Lewis Craig A 118 $7,000 L 9-2
7 6 Quarta Coroa (BRZ) Berrio O A Avila A C 120 $8,000 L 5-1
8 7 Super Harmony Verenzuela J L Knapp Steve 122 $8,000 L 5-1
9 8 My Man Murf Garcia M Becerra Rafael 120 $8,000 L 12-1
10 9 Mind the Minister Valenzuela P A Garcia Oscar 120 $8,000 L 8-1
11 10 Stand Tall Medina L Mollica Michael A 120 $8,000 L 12-1
12 AE Stormy Game Velazquez Jesus Sherlock Gary 1117 $7,000 L 20-1
13 AE Squallcreek Pedroza M A Canani Julio C 120 $8,000 Blk-On L 3-1

$1 Exacta / $2 Quinella / $1 Trifecta $2 Rolling Double / $1 Rolling Pick Three $1 Superfecta (10-cent min.) / Pick Four (50-cent min.)



6th (4:30)

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Claiming ($40,000 - $35,000) | Purse: $44,000

1 1 Fair Kisses John K DeLeon Rafael 120 $40,000 L 12-1
2 2 Cruzin Topless Rosario J Carava Jack 122 $40,000 L 5-1
3 3 L'Enchanteresse (IRE) Pedroza M A O'Neill Doug 118 $35,000 L 9-2
4 4 Very Vintage Smith M E Harrington Mike 120 $40,000 L 15-1
5 5 Glass of Red (IRE) Valenzuela P A Lloyd James 120 $40,000 L 4-1
6 6 Sky Chant Bejarano R Dominguez Caesar F 122 $40,000 L 7-2
7 7 Last Blast Espinoza V Cecil B D A 120 $40,000 L 15-1
8 8 Cash Queen Anna (IRE) Blanc B Gallagher Patrick 120 $40,000 Blk-On L 5-1
9 9 Cosmic Angel Baze R A Morey William E 120 $40,000 L 5-1

$1 Exacta / $2 Quinella / $1 Trifecta $2 Rolling Double / $1 Pick 3 / $1 Superfecta (10-cent min.)



7th (5:00) Real Good Deal S.

7 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

Blue Jay Attack SCRATCHED

1 1 Killer Bear Valdez F S Knapp Steve 121 L 10-1
2 2 Runaway Bandido Espinoza V Becerra Rafael 117 L 6-1
3 3 High Success Bejarano R Lloyd James 123 L 3-1
4 4 Goggles McCoy Baze R A Sherman Steve M 119 L 7-5
5 5 Pacific Avenue Smith M E Headley Bruce 117 L 5-1
7 6 Very Fair Rosario J Hollendorfer Jerry 119 L 4-1

$1 Exacta / $2 Quinella / $1 Trifecta $2 Double / $1 Superfecta (10-cent min.)



8th (5:30)

5 1/2 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 2 Year Olds Maiden Claiming ($40,000 - $35,000) | Purse: $24,000

Airwar SCRATCHED
Curly Boy SCRATCHED

1 1 Spud Spivens Quinonez A Moreno Henry 120 $40,000 20-1
2 2 Swiss G's Baze R A Sherman Art 120 $40,000 L 20-1
3 3 Graydle's Red Berrio O A Avila A C 120 $40,000 L 20-1
4 4 Stakin Stewart John K Freeman Edward R 120 $40,000 L 20-1
5 5 Courtside Rosario J Sadler John W 120 $40,000 L 4-1
6 6 Swiss A Espinoza V Kitchingman Adam 120 $40,000 L 6-1
7 7 Wild and True Garcia M Dollase Craig 120 $40,000 L 7-2
8 8 Cactus Breeze Bejarano R Troeger Robert 120 $40,000 L 6-1
9 9 Golden Warrior Valenzuela P A Bernstein David 120 $40,000 L 12-1
10 10 Topperazzi Santiago Reyes C Becerra Rafael 120 $40,000 L 12-1
11 11 Onebadjoe Nakatani C S Koriner Brian 120 $40,000 L 12-1
13 12 Mr. Gennaro Verenzuela J L Polanco Marcelo 120 $40,000 L 9-2

$1 Exacta / $2 Quinella / $1 Trifecta $1 Superfecta (10-cent min.) / $1 Super High 5
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Old 08-10-2010, 08:42 PM
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Kinda of a $$$$ one in this one. Heard Jim Rome talking about it today on the radio. Flagship $1,000,000 debut at Del Mar for Baffert. ANy inside info on this one?
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Old 08-10-2010, 08:46 PM
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Kinda of a $$$$ one in this one. Heard Jim Rome talking about it today on the radio. Flagship $1,000,000 debut at Del Mar for Baffert. ANy inside info on this one?

I picked him on top. The other Baffert should make the lead after a bit of a trip last time and blinks going on and the Mitchell is likely ok. 3 horse race, cant see anyone else making an impact. Bob has been cold but he did win with a 3yr old firster on Friday, a Ghostzapper no less... That one opened ice cold 6-1, and went off at 2-1.

Check out Thursdays Cal Bred maiden race. Baffert has a 300k Giants Causeway half sister to Brother Derek.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:37 PM
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I think this is part of whats wrong with Horse Racing and these sites.... You post a thread about a race tomorrow... A race where ALL OF US CAN MAKE MONEY. 1 reply and 7 people have looked at it, but people continue to fight about handle and what turf course is the best. 20-30 opinions from a few of the better handicappers at this place could help us all make $ tomorrow, BUT NO. People like Dahoss who is supposed to be a good handicapper has no problem taking shots at me in another thread, but no one wants to discuss an actual race. I would sit here and talk races all day on Monday-Tuesday.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:41 PM
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That's because this isn't a good betting race.

1) Mitchell's horse is rat but because he juices, it needs to be considered
2) The Baffert that's run took up a bit early backstretch, but it had an inside run from that point on and was asked by the jock, essentially, out of the gate. He had nothing in the stretch -- though he wasn't pushed late. Now, he gets blinkers on and we're supposed to 'assume' he can run and get the easy lead.
3) The rest of the field consists of 1sters -- included the $1M other Baffert.
4) Both Bafferts and the Mitchell figure to take money.

Where exactly is the value here?
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:45 PM
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That's because this isn't a good betting race.

1) Mitchell's horse is rat but because he juices, it needs to be considered
2) The Baffert that's run took up a bit early backstretch, but it had an inside run from that point on and was asked by the jock, essentially, out of the gate. He had nothing in the stretch -- though he wasn't pushed late. Now, he gets blinkers on and we're supposed to 'assume' he can run and get the easy lead.
3) The rest of the field consists of 1sters -- included the $1M other Baffert.
4) Both Bafferts and the Mitchell figure to take money.

Where exactly is the value here?
It can still be discussed, or is Rachel and handle and surface better? Plus value to one is not to another... It used to be 4-1 for life, but recently around here people are insulting 5-1 winners.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:45 PM
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I would sit here and talk races all day on Monday-Tuesday.
No one wants to sit around and talk racing with you. You dominate conversations with stupidity.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:48 PM
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No one wants to sit around and talk racing with you. You dominate conversations with stupidity.

Since your return you have posted a 6-1 winner and fought with people. I am showing a positive ROI in a pick 4 thread I started, and have been ice cold latley. A recent 14-1 shot who win easily I also gave out on here, and in private to multiple people. Calm yourself.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:49 PM
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Since your return you have posted a 6-1 winner and fought with people. I am showing a positive ROI in a pick 4 thread I started, and have been ice cold latley. A recent 14-1 shot who win easily I also gave out on here, and in private to multiple people. Calm yourself.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:51 PM
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Since your return you have posted a 6-1 winner and fought with people. I am showing a positive ROI in a pick 4 thread I started, and have been ice cold latley. A recent 14-1 shot who win easily I also gave out on here, and in private to multiple people. Calm yourself.
Dude, I gave out the Voss horse also on PA. What do you want a cookie? Don't answer that.

The fought with people stuff is amusing coming from you.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:52 PM
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Dude, I gave out the Voss horse also on PA. What do you want a cookie? Don't answer that.

The fought with people stuff is amusing coming from you.

I fight with you... Thats it.
You heard about the Voss from me, but its ok.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:54 PM
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I fight with you... Thats it.
You heard about the Voss from me, but its ok.
You have a line to Voss? Any jumpers I should be on the lookout for.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:56 PM
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I fight with you... Thats it.
You heard about the Voss from me, but its ok.
It's amazing the amount of lies you fit into this short post.
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It's amazing the amount of lies you fit into this short post.

Ok...
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:58 PM
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Ok...
We both know you didn't give me the Voss horse and if you did I wouldn't have bet him.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:59 PM
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It's amazing the amount of lies you fit into this short post.
Who polluted this thread? Packerback started a thread... I responded about the race because I had to and just finished handicapping it. Fat Man at least discussed the race, and then BIG TOUGH HOSS COMES IN, AND SHITS ON IT ALL. Thats a fact...
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:59 PM
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We both know you didn't give me the Voss horse and if you did I wouldn't have bet him.

We both dont know that.
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:02 PM
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We both dont know that.
At this point do you even know where the lies begin and end? Or is it all a big blur?
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:03 PM
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At this point do you even know where the lies begin and end? Or is it all a big blur?

Its a blur... Dont respond to the other post though, about you ****ing up another thread. Thanks man, I actually wanted to talk this race.
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So Mitchell trains Rome's Horse? Do any of you Del Mar guys see Jim Rome at the track? I love the fact he talks about the pony's on his show.
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