RU Kid

randallscott35 · #1 09-29-2010, 04:23 PM

Kills himself after being outed. This is so sad. I doubt the kids who pulled the prank realized that this would be the result. But it is yet another example of not knowing the emotional stability of people and leaving them alone.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...gers_post.html

#2 09-29-2010, 04:30 PM

What a drama queen.

randallscott35 · #3 09-29-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

What a drama queen.

Yes and no right, and I know you are joking. Fact is, you don't know how someone is feeling when people do things to them...i.e. the girl in Mass. last year who offed herself after being picked on by other kids. I don't agree with the crazy comments on the site about "hate crimes" etc....They played a prank, this kid decided to kill himself. You can't prove intent there. But that's just it, I tell my kids to leave each other alone because you don't really know who is nuts or suicidal at the end of the day. So worry about you and only you.

#4 09-29-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yes and no right, and I know you are joking. Fact is, you don't know how someone is feeling when people do things to them...i.e. the girl in Mass. last year who offed herself after being picked on by other kids. I don't agree with the crazy comments on the site about "hate crimes" etc....They played a prank, this kid decided to kill himself. You can't prove intent there. But that's just it, I tell my kids to leave each other alone because you don't really know who is nuts or suicidal at the end of the day. So worry about you and only you.

Joking but serious. The dude went a little overboard.

randallscott35 · #5 09-29-2010, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Joking but serious. The dude went a little overboard.

Totally coach, which is why I feel bad for the kids who pulled the prank. You think these kids really thought he would do something like that? Of course not....But because of what I do I know how fragile kids are, yes 18 is still a kid, and therefore I feel just awful for all the parents involved here.

#6 09-29-2010, 04:54 PM

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Totally coach, which is why I feel bad for the kids who pulled the prank. You think these kids really thought he would do something like that? Of course not....But because of what I do I know how fragile kids are, yes 18 is still a kid, and therefore I feel just awful for all the parents involved here.

If one were to speculate...

One of his parents disapproves of his lifestyle and he's been mentally abused to the point he lives in constant fear of being outed.

randallscott35 · #7 09-29-2010, 04:59 PM

Now the top Google story on US news.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/victim-secr...ry?id=11758716

Dahoss · #8 09-29-2010, 05:13 PM

I don't know if I'd classify what they did as a prank. That seems like a shi.tty thing to do to someone, regardless if the kid was gay or straight. I don't think there was any intent for him to harm himself, but they intended on humiliating him IMO.

randallscott35 · #9 09-29-2010, 05:15 PM

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I don't know if I'd classify what they did as a prank. That seems like a shi.tty thing to do to someone, regardless if the kid was gay or straight. I don't think there was any intent for him to harm himself, but they intended on humiliating him IMO.

Yes they did. And they will be convicted of doing so....But it is a stretch to make them evil and or hopeful of the outcome that happened.

Dahoss · #10 09-29-2010, 05:22 PM

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Yes they did. And they will be convicted of doing so....But it is a stretch to make them evil and or hopeful of the outcome that happened.

Well broadcasting others that are having sex or hooking up without their consent seems pretty evil to me. And I doubt they would have done it if he was straight.

I don't think they wanted that outcome, but they got it.

randallscott35 · #11 09-29-2010, 05:23 PM

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Well broadcasting others that are having sex or hooking up without their consent seems pretty evil to me. And I doubt they would have done it if he was straight.

I don't think they wanted that outcome, but they got it.

If he were straight, would he have killed himself because of it? Doubtful.....Again, no one wins here. It is a lesson.

Dahoss · #12 09-29-2010, 05:32 PM

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If he were straight, would he have killed himself because of it? Doubtful.....Again, no one wins here. It is a lesson.

Probably not, but it doesn't make what they did any less wrong.

jms62 · #13 09-29-2010, 05:38 PM

Is this now a potential involuntary manslaughter case?

philcski · #14 09-29-2010, 08:59 PM

Very sad day for my alma mater.

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Is this now a potential involuntary manslaughter case?

Should be.

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Well broadcasting others that are having sex or hooking up without their consent seems pretty evil to me. And I doubt they would have done it if he was straight.

I don't think they wanted that outcome, but they got it.

Agree.

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

If one were to speculate...

One of his parents disapproves of his lifestyle and he's been mentally abused to the point he lives in constant fear of being outed.

Also agree.

chucklestheclown · #15 09-30-2010, 03:11 AM

It's very sad and a very extreme case. But would you want to be charged with a crime for something you said to another poster?

jms62 · #16 09-30-2010, 05:22 AM

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It's very sad and a very extreme case. But would you want to be charged with a crime for something you said to another poster?

Of course no one would want to however if a poster bullied some kid to a point they commited suicide I say the poster should be liable for their actions. I think the same thing goes here.

joeydb · #17 09-30-2010, 07:30 AM

The question that comes to mind is, "Why couldn't they just leave that kid alone?"

This is just so sad.

Antitrust32 · #18 09-30-2010, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

It's very sad and a very extreme case. But would you want to be charged with a crime for something you said to another poster?

thats a little different than illegally broadcasting someone having sex (especially a young man with another man... that is a tough age for gay men)

randallscott35 · #19 09-30-2010, 10:59 AM

He reached out to a site after this happened. Didn't help fast enough. Hopefully gay kids will realize there are people to discuss this with.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/suicide-rut...ry?id=11763784

philcski · #20 09-30-2010, 11:38 AM

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thats a little different than illegally broadcasting someone having sex (especially a young man with another man... that is a tough age for gay men)

Honest question Lori... when did you know your "preference"? How did you handle it through that late teens early 20's? I'm sure it's a very age tough for gay girls, too. It's a tough age for ALL kids, even if they're an All-American Harvard freshman from a millionaire family.