Bluegrass Cat Retired

You know, I always cheered for this horse. Really not sure as to why but there was something about him that intrigued me. But he was a good horse that was in the shadows of Barbaro and Dini. He is going to stand at WinStar Farm for $50k. Good luck Cat.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

You know, I always cheered for this horse. Really not sure as to why but there was something about him that intrigued me. But he was a good horse that was in the shadows of Barbaro and Dini. He is going to stand at WinStar Farm for $50k. Good luck Cat.

I thought they already announced this... am I losing it or what?

Cigar was retired too. I, for one, am shocked.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I thought they already announced this... am I losing it or what?

You aren't losing it. He got hurt at Saratoga and was retired.

[randallscott35]

Euro, he was retired in August. Did you bump your head.

It was announced after the Travers but breeding plans just finalized. I should of made a better title for the thread.

You can do better for $50K IMO....he was fragile like most Storm Cats and he never won against the best....I like the horse though.....

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

You can do better for $50K IMO....he was fragile like most Storm Cats and he never won against the best....I like the horse though.....

I dont understand all the fuss over Storm Cat and his offspring. They are fragile and they have distance limitations. And I agree, you can do much better than $50k.

[sumitas]

he was a Storm Cat that could get the distance. that made him very appealing and at times spectacular. unfortunately he never had the chance to race more.

[todko]

I always wondered what the deal was with them running front wraps on Bluegrass Cat for the Travers. First time front wraps. Not a good sign. Not like Pletcher was trying make other trainers guess in a nickel claimer or something.

When I saw the early fractions in the Travers I knew it was trouble. A healthy BC would have run better than that. Comes out of it with a fracture. Something sure doesn't add up with that picture.

Thankfully he survived it. And good for him that he's getting $50k. If his offspring are as game as he was we have something to look forward to.

[pmayjr]

50k? a lil much don't ya think?

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

50k? a lil much don't ya think?

Yeah, it probably is a little high for a horse that only ever won one G1 race.

But he could POTENTIALLY be a great stallion. Yes he's a Storm Cat, but examine the bottom half of his pedigree too. Look at his dam....She's A Winner.
She is by AP Indy and out of a graded stakes winning daughter of Mr. P. In addition to Bluegrass Cat she has already produced another multiple Graded stakes winner out of only 3 offspring to hit the track. That is a pretty nice pedigree.
I guess in today's breeding industry the big question is.....if you have a stallion like BC that is by Storm Cat and out of an AP Indy mare.....who are you going to breed the horse too? Are there any mares out there anymore that aren't closely related to one or both of these two horses?

[Cannon Shell]

You know stud fees are a little out of control when this horse starts at $50k

[Danzig]

i think 50k is steep. a lot of well bred horses out there. but i guess they have a lot of interest so they feel they can charge that fee.
storm cat is so popular because he backs up the hype, a lot of success over the years from him. he's not standing for 500k for nothing!

but....there are a lot of good horses out there for that price. do you go for proven, or for some storm cat magic??
as for mares to breed to--they're out there.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You know stud fees are a little out of control when this horse starts at $50k

i thought it was out of control when ghostzapper started for 200k!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

i thought it was out of control when ghostzapper started for 200k!

Nothing Frank S does is surprising

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You know stud fees are a little out of control when this horse starts at $50k

just more fad breeding, to sell...and underperform on the track

[quote=todko]I always wondered what the deal was with them running front wraps on Bluegrass Cat for the Travers. First time front wraps. Not a good sign. Not like Pletcher was trying make other trainers guess in a nickel claimer or something.

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In his last work before the Travers he probably ran down up front, getting off the hind leg that was bothering him that he ended up with a broken pastern in. Too bad Pletcher didn't put 2 and 2 together. Or maybe he did but kept on pushing. Not surprised if that's the case.

[quote=Blue Eyes]

Originally Posted by todko

I always wondered what the deal was with them running front wraps on Bluegrass Cat for the Travers. First time front wraps. Not a good sign. Not like Pletcher was trying make other trainers guess in a nickel claimer or something.

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In his last work before the Travers he probably ran down up front, getting off the hind leg that was bothering him that he ended up with a broken pastern in. Too bad Pletcher didn't put 2 and 2 together. Or maybe he did but kept on pushing. Not surprised if that's the case.

Yeah yeah yeah, He doesn't know anything about problems or training, thats why he wins the races he does.
This is so tiresome its silly. Guys constantly lobbing grenades at someone who works hard and is successful.

[quote=oracle80]

Originally Posted by Blue Eyes

Yeah yeah yeah, He doesn't know anything about problems or training, thats why he wins the races he does.
This is so tiresome its silly. Guys constantly lobbing grenades at someone who works hard and is successful.

Maybe you need to re-read my post. Especially the 2nd to last sentence. That's my take on the situation. Most trainers try to figure out why a horse is running down where it usually doesn't run down. I'm sure Pletcher knew. He also knew the horse was heading to the shed soon too. What? You think those front wraps were for ankle support??? What's your reason for them? You think Pletcher just wanted to see what BC would look like with socks?
BTW, do you really think Pletcher worked hard to get where he's at? He walked out of Waynes barn and had horses waiting for him. Yeah, that's real tough. And I've seen how Lukas' assistants work. The only thing they worry about is hearing Wayne scream at them every now and then. I've seen outfits ten times tougher to work for than his.