Buffum's Derby Trail - Page 2

RockHardTen1985 · #21 02-10-2011, 12:47 PM

I think Buffum actually ran OK for his first start back.

my miss storm cat · #22 02-10-2011, 12:50 PM

I know you're alive in your pick 3...

Good luck.

I used the 4, 6 and 8 in the last race. We shall see.

RockHardTen1985 · #23 02-10-2011, 12:52 PM

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I know you're alive in your pick 3...

Good luck.

I used the 4, 6 and 8 in the last race. We shall see.

With the payouts I wish I went a bit lighter in first leg and maybe used the 6,8 in this. I could have had the winner in the first leg going 3 deep, I would have needed all 4 in middle leg though. Good Luck to you.

PatCummings · #24 02-10-2011, 12:56 PM

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I think Buffum actually ran OK for his first start back.

He did run well, better than expected, but if Mike De Kock had any control over the jockey bookings on his horse, he would have won with Soumillon riding Zanzamar instead of Richard Hills, who should be totted off for that tragedy of a ride.

PatCummings · #25 02-10-2011, 12:57 PM

Buffum was fifth, I believe.

Linny · #26 02-10-2011, 01:08 PM

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I won't redboard about boxing any exacta

but Splash Point won (I was wrong there), Zanzamar 2nd, not sure where Buffum finished.

Splash Point is not Godolphin. He's owned by Sh. Mo's son i believe.

my miss storm cat · #27 02-10-2011, 01:15 PM

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Splash Point is not Godolphin. He's owned by Sh. Mo's son i believe.

Well this is why I thought he was Godolphin....

http://www.godolphin.com/HorseDetail...d=1_2_1&id=838

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With the payouts I wish I went a bit lighter in first leg and maybe used the 6,8 in this. I could have had the winner in the first leg going 3 deep, I would have needed all 4 in middle leg though. Good Luck to you.

Good for you

(and for her. I had given up on her but nice to see her win)!

PatCummings · #28 02-10-2011, 01:33 PM

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Splash Point is not Godolphin. He's owned by Sh. Mo's son i believe.

Pretty much all the same.

Betsy · #29 02-10-2011, 02:00 PM

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I think Buffum actually ran OK for his first start back.

Any idea how many lengths he was beaten? This was also his first go on synthetics....Thanks!

Splash Point is a 3 year old, but it still just seems so odd that Southern Hemisphere 3 year olds (our 4 year olds) are allowed to compete in this race.

RockHardTen1985 · #30 02-10-2011, 02:03 PM

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Any idea how many lengths he was beaten? This was also his first go on synthetics....Thanks!

Splash Point is a 3 year old, but it still just seems so odd that Southern Hemisphere 3 year olds (our 4 year olds) are allowed to compete in this race.

I want to say maybe 4-5. He made a wide premature move and made the lead in the stretch. He was not in good position early IMO seemed stuck in between horses and even dropped back at one point before making his run. He might actually be OK.

Betsy · #31 02-10-2011, 02:17 PM

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I want to say maybe 4-5. He made a wide premature move and made the lead in the stretch. He was not in good position early IMO seemed stuck in between horses and even dropped back at one point before making his run. He might actually be OK.

Thanks! I thought he had shown a lot of ability in his debut, so I'm glad to see he ran closer to that race than to his Remsen; it's nice to see that he clearly handled the synthetic track fairly well. Hopefully he'll bounce back from this race in good shape.......

RockHardTen1985 · #32 02-10-2011, 02:19 PM

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Thanks! I thought he had shown a lot of ability in his debut, so I'm glad to see he ran closer to that race than to his Remsen; it's nice to see that he clearly handled the synthetic track fairly well. Hopefully he'll bounce back from this race in good shape.......

I actually think he needs to get off the synthetics. That quick move might do it on dirt, who knows. As for Graded earnings wont he have to run really big in his next 2 just to have a chance?

PatCummings · #33 02-10-2011, 02:21 PM

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Any idea how many lengths he was beaten? This was also his first go on synthetics....Thanks!

Splash Point is a 3 year old, but it still just seems so odd that Southern Hemisphere 3 year olds (our 4 year olds) are allowed to compete in this race.

It all depends on your view. In the southern hemisphere, they ARE 3yo. Being six months older, or so, they carry more weight, so it is equitably distributed, really.

Linny · #34 02-10-2011, 03:05 PM

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Pretty much all the same.

Since he doesn't run in the royal blue, I figure that they didn't have him on the A Team ...yet. he ran well and as a northern hemisphere bred he could find himself in the KY Derby hunt. He won a $250k Group race.

tjfla · #35 02-10-2011, 03:20 PM

Sheik Hamdan bin Mohammed Al Maktoum ownes Splash Point

He got $150,000 towards the KY Derby with 2 more big money races so he could be a possiblity?

Something to look for is IF Buffum wins or comes in 2nd in the 2 million dollar race he WILL make the KY Derby

Linny · #36 02-10-2011, 03:26 PM

The UAE Derby has a $2m purse so an on the board finish should get him into the Derby, money wise. The al Bastikiya is listed, not group so earnings there don't count.

Betsy · #37 02-10-2011, 05:41 PM

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I actually think he needs to get off the synthetics. That quick move might do it on dirt, who knows. As for Graded earnings wont he have to run really big in his next 2 just to have a chance?

I'm not thrilled about synthetics either -and I'm very much looking forward to seeing him get back on dirt. I don't know that I'd push him towards the Derby because even if he runs well in the UAE Derby, he'd probably need another prep here. That's 3 races plus all that travelling - and he's not a big colt (not unless he developed over the winter). Still, if they do decide to make a go of it with him, then I have to assume they think he can handle it. This really just does not seem an ideal way to prep for the KY Derby, but it's the Sheikh's horses and he can do what he wants to.

Betsy · #38 02-10-2011, 05:42 PM

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It all depends on your view. In the southern hemisphere, they ARE 3yo. Being six months older, or so, they carry more weight, so it is equitably distributed, really.

That's true - didn't think about the weight at all; thanks!

PatCummings · #39 02-10-2011, 05:43 PM

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I'm not thrilled about synthetics either -and I'm very much looking forward to seeing him get back on dirt. I don't know that I'd push him towards the Derby because even if he runs well in the UAE Derby, he'd probably need another prep here. That's 3 races plus all that travelling - and he's not a big colt (not unless he developed over the winter). Still, if they do decide to make a go of it with him, then I have to assume they think he can handle it. This really just does not seem an ideal way to prep for the KY Derby, but it's the Sheikh's horses and he can do what he wants to.

I'd be shocked if any of the Godolphin horses running in that race today come within 1,000 miles of Churchill Downs by May...been wrong before, but just my feeling. Also, Godolphin could potentially start Xin Xu Lin in the UAE Derby fresh in from South America, so winning the big one isn't a cakewalk. I don't think they are thinking Kentucky Derby at all.

Betsy · #40 02-10-2011, 05:45 PM

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I'd be shocked if any of the Godolphin horses running in that race today come within 1,000 miles of Churchill Downs by May...been wrong before, but just my feeling. Also, Godolphin could potentially start Xin Xu Lin in the UAE Derby fresh in from South America, so winning the big one isn't a cakewalk. I don't think they are thinking Kentucky Derby at all.

Then why did they take Buffum from Albertrani and send him thousands of miles to Dubai? He's well thought of by them, so why not just leave him in the States?

I just saw the replay now and he really did run quite well.........this race should do him a world of good.