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[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

sorry I get you and that Rachel Maddow confused all the time. She said it not you so carry-on. BTW how's that Ground Zero mosque coming along? Should be built by now. No?

union problems

[Princess Doreen]

Good article. But, then, I like most anthing Charles Krauthammer pens -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021005339.html

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

sorry I get you and that Rachel Maddow confused all the time. She said it not you so carry-on. BTW how's that Ground Zero mosque coming along? Should be built by now. No?

No, you just can't read. You made yourself look silly.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Good article. But, then, I like most anthing Charles Krauthammer pens -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021005339.html

I agree that Krauthammer can be very sharp about many things, but here he conflates Islam with radical Islamic movements, not being very specific about the difference.

I'm sick of the whole bigoted Muslim hate thing going on in America. It's appalling, shameful and stupid, and shouldn't be tolerated. It makes our country look ignorant. Radical Islam or terrorists are another story. The two are not one and the same.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Riot

I agree that Krauthammer can be very sharp about many things, but here he conflates Islam with radical Islamic movements, not being very specific about the difference.

I'm sick of the whole bigoted Muslim hate thing going on in America. It's appalling, shameful and stupid, and shouldn't be tolerated. It makes our country look ignorant. Radical Islam or terrorists are another story. The two are not one and the same.

The agenda and end result is the same - the way they go about it is different

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, you just can't read. You made yourself look silly.

Some one has something in common with you.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

The agenda and end result is the same - the way they go about it is different

Just want to double check what you mean.

I wrote: "I'm sick of the whole bigoted Muslim hate thing going on in America. It's appalling, shameful and stupid, and shouldn't be tolerated. It makes our country look ignorant. Radical Islam or terrorists are another story. The two are not one and the same."

Are you saying radical Islam and terrorists are one and the same? Or that Muslim Americans and all Muslims are the same as radical Islam/terrorists?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

shut up

[Princess Doreen]

[quote=Riot;751923]Just want to double check what you mean.

I wrote: "I'm sick of the whole bigoted Muslim hate thing going on in America. It's appalling, shameful and stupid, and shouldn't be tolerated. It makes our country look ignorant. Radical Islam or terrorists are another story. The two are not one and the same."

Are you saying radical Islam and terrorists are one and the same? Or that Muslim Americans and all Muslims are the same as radical Islam/terrorists?[/QUOTE]

Their agenda is the same - the terrorists are impatient; non-violent Muslims true to their religion employ stealth jihad. Nothing explains it better (for me, anyway) than this article -

http://www.legion.org/magazine/9907/stealth-jihad

"While Shariah deems jihad to be the personal obligation of every faithful Muslim capable of performing it – man or woman, young or old – they can forgo the violent form when it is deemed impracticable. In such circumstances, the struggle can be pursued through means that are, at least temporarily, non-violent. Taken together, the latter constitute what renowned author and expert Robert Spencer calls “stealth jihad.” Adherents to Shariah call it “dawah.” "

[Riot]

Doreen thinks:

Or that Muslim Americans and all Muslims are the same as radical Islam/terrorists?[/

Ah. Then I'll put you clearly into the religious bigot category.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Riot

Doreen thinks:


Ah. Then I'll put you clearly into the religious bigot category.

That is patently unfair and untrue. Just because I don't fall into lock step with what you believe does not make me a bigot, and I resent such an accusation. You are not the owner of all the answers.

Shariah Law is everything to all Muslims - it is not just a belief, it is a way of life, and it is their politics. There are terrorists and there are moderates; HOWEVER, their agenda and goal is worldwide domination.

There is a lengthy white paper report on the subject that I suggest you take the time to read if the Stealth Jihad article was not to your liking.

http://europenews.dk/files/Shariah%2...2009142010.pdf

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

That is patently unfair and untrue. Just because I don't fall into lock step with what you believe does not make me a bigot, and I resent such an accusation. You are not the owner of all the answers.

Shariah Law is everything to all Muslims - it is not just a belief, it is a way of life, and it is their politics. There are terrorists and there are moderates; HOWEVER, their agenda and goal is worldwide domination.

There is a lengthy white paper report on the subject that I suggest you take the time to read if the Stealth Jihad article was not to your liking.

http://europenews.dk/files/Shariah%2...2009142010.pdf

You go girl. Next Riot will call you a hateful person.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Next Riot will call you a hateful person.

She already implied as much by calling me a religious bigot.

[Riot]

Shariah Law is everything to all Muslims - it is not just a belief, it is a way of life, and it is their politics. There are terrorists and there are moderates; HOWEVER, their agenda and goal is worldwide domination.

Nonsense. Muslims no more want to "dominate the world" than Jews or Christians. The vast majority of Muslims, and Muslim leaders, don't take a literal interpretation of the Quran, and have clearly stated and acted so. Exactly as the vast majority of Christians disregard the violence and literal nonsense in their bible.

The "worldwide domination" and "stealth Jihad" crap is fear mongering intolerance and ignorance of this entire religion plain and clear. Good luck with that. The rest of us don't have to tolerate it, however. This country was founded on religious freedom and tolerance, and doesn't abide - nor does it have to - by those with no respect for the freedom of one's fellow Americans, or the Constitution.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Riot

Nonsense. Muslims no more want to "dominate the world" than Jews or Christians. The vast majority of Muslims, and Muslim leaders, don't take a literal interpretation of the Quran, and have clearly stated and acted so. Exactly as the vast majority of Christians disregard the violence and literal nonsense in their bible.

The "worldwide domination" and "stealth Jihad" crap is fear mongering intolerance and ignorance of this entire religion plain and clear. Good luck with that. The rest of us don't have to tolerate it, however. This country was founded on religious freedom and tolerance, and doesn't abide - nor does it have to - by those with no respect for the freedom of one's fellow Americans, or the Constitution.

"The rest of us" pay heed to the warning signals.

And, just where in anything I have said am I denying religious freedom to anyone. Honestly, Riot, you do turn ugly when someone disagrees with you.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

"The rest of us" pay heed to the warning signals.

And, just where in anything I have said am I denying religious freedom to anyone. Honestly, Riot, you do turn ugly when someone disagrees with you.

Half of the people who post here (Politics) turn ugly when they are disagreed with...admit it. Randall's calling people morons who don't agree with his econ stuff, NASCAR..well..enough said, etc, etc.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

"The rest of us" pay heed to the warning signals.

And, just where in anything I have said am I denying religious freedom to anyone. Honestly, Riot, you do turn ugly when someone disagrees with you.

Nice try. It's not about me - it's about how YOU are seen treating our fellow Americans. YOU indeed turn ugly when it comes to discussing Muslims. YOU have no respect or tolerance for their religion. YOU are calling your fellow Americans terrorists and extremists. YOU are labeling billions of people, from across the world, with different beliefs, into one narrow category of terrorist and extremist.

But that fits into the current neocon mindset of fear: at CPAC the religious leaders called for tolerance, but here's how the conference finished with that crazy ex-Col. West yammering on:

The South Florida Republican blasted the health care law, said the U.S. has to strengthen its foreign policy and get out of the way of the private sector, accused China of using capitalism "as a weapon against us," and warned about allowing multiculturalism to "grow on steroids" and overshadow "definitive American culture."

"Definitive American culture" is proudly a melting pot. Not bigotry and intolerance, and a war on "multiculturalism". And Muslims.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Half of the people who post here (Politics) turn ugly when they are disagreed with...admit it. Randall's calling people morons who don't agree with his econ stuff, NASCAR..well..enough said, etc, etc.

Thats ok with me. Im not the one who thinks they are right all the time.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Thats ok with me. Im not the one who thinks they are right all the time.

lmao
self awareness isn't your strong suit, is it?

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Riot

Nice try. It's not about me - it's about how YOU are seen treating our fellow Americans. YOU indeed turn ugly when it comes to discussing Muslims. YOU have no respect or tolerance for their religion. YOU are calling your fellow Americans terrorists and extremists. YOU are labeling billions of people, from across the world, with different beliefs, into one narrow category of terrorist and extremist.

But that fits into the current neocon mindset of fear: at CPAC the religious leaders called for tolerance, but here's how the conference finished with that crazy ex-Col. West yammering on:

"Definitive American culture" is proudly a melting pot. Not bigotry and intolerance, and a war on "multiculturalism". And Muslims.

You have neither read nor processed one word of what I wrote. I am not calling every Muslim an extremist or a terrorist. I am saying that worldwide domination is the ultimate agenda of Islam, and it just doesn't entail religion. It's a way of life, politics, economy, and zero tolerance for anyone else's way of life. This needn't be accomplished by terroristic means but by stealth and propagation of the faith and moving into many countries around the world where a political foothold can be achieved.

To borrow a phrase from you, "Get a clue."

Great book.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2140135/posts