Conspiracy theorists heads explode - full birth certificate released

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes. That is exactly as it exists now.


Please read the act and see who qualifies for the subsidies.



Except those 40,000,000 are not on Medicaid or Medicare, or part of those pools. They are in the private insurance pools that you and I are in now.

It is not. Individuals in a high risk catagory pay a much higher premium and you know it.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

It is not. Individuals in a high risk catagory pay a much higher premium and you know it.

Yeah, and they are still going to be put into those different categories. The law doesn't have all that much tooth.

[Patrick333]

I wonder why it took so long to release it. It's been an issue since his campaign.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Patrick333

I wonder why it took so long to release it. It's been an issue since his campaign.

Wow, yeah. Aside from having to get special permission from the state for the original hard copy (existence seen and verified multiple times by a variety of people) to be dug out and an official facsimile be released (see the link to letters from the WH to the state earlier in the thread) because the state does not release copies of that; there is a HUGE difference between the Official Certificate of Live Birth that serves as "prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding" released during the campaign in 2008 (see in the Pulitzer Prize winning coverage of this by Politifact) - and what was released today HUGE difference.

[lord007]

Forget the birth certificate why was his social security card isuued in CT......???..hmmm

[Riot]

Hysterically funny.

Congratulations, America, Donald Trump Is the Boss of You
Posted by James Poniewozik

The longform certificate. Get out your magnifying glasses and Photoshop, Internet!

Today, with a precarious economy, rising gas prices and three wars under way, the President of the United States of America held a press conference to announce the release of his original birth certificate, to prove that he is eligible to hold his office and quell a controversy fomented by a reality-show judge who by some polls is the leading candidate to oppose him in the 2012 election.

[Pause to allow those readers, who so desire, to kill themselves.]

The release of the certificate—shockingly!—revealed that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, in 1961, as a human baby. It, and the subsequent press conference, drew saturation coverage from cable news. But not before Apprentice boss Donald Trump held a press conference in New Hampshire on the appearance of the birth certificate he declared "missing" on Anderson Cooper, um, two days ago. His humbled response: You're welcome, America!

Trump's remarks literally began, "I am very proud of myself." Because of course he is. Because who wouldn't be proud to have cynically embraced a toxic nutjob theory, on the basis of no good evidence, questioning the President's legitimacy, then having his suspicions shown to be an Al Capone's vault? Who wouldn't be proud to have turned himself from a national punchline into a national punchline with a shot at a Presidential nomination, through sheer, up-by-the-bootstraps pandering to Internet conspiracists? That takes talent, folks!

Obama, for his part, gave a brief speech that, in the most tactful terms possible, amounted to: Jesus Christ, America. OK, I paraphrase. The President noted that, while he has trouble getting TV networks to break in for coverage of policy announcements, they scrambled out for a birth-certificate announcement like it was a declaration of nuclear war. "We've got better things to do," he said. "I've got better things to do." And he hoped that the country, and the political press, would stop being distracted by "carnival barkers."

Oh, Mr. President: the carnival has barely pitched its tent. Let us count the ways in which it is not over:

* Conspiracists do not believe conspiracies because of evidence. They believe because they want to believe. Whatever subaltern message the birther theories actually represented—Obama is dishonest, Obama is alien, Obama is not one of us—those are not going away because of some silly fact. Expect the forwarded chain e-mail from your cranky uncle any day now, thoroughly documenting how the so-called "longform" birth certificate was not in fact long enough, was photoshopped, does not stand up to magnification, was planted in the files by ACORN or does in fact represent the birth of some baby named Barack Obama, who was abducted shortly after Earth birth and replaced with a tiny cyborg created by gay Muslim communists.

* A corollary: Facts do not dispel conspiracy theories. Facts are raw material for future counter-theories.

* Conspiracies are fungible. OK, the birth certificate is out there—whatever. What about Obama's academic records? Sure enough, Trump, in his own press conference, moved on to asking about those, as part of the argument that Obama was a poor student who didn't belong in the Ivy League. Which may not have anything to do with policy, or the economy, or the actual job the the U.S. citizen elected President is doing. No matter: the sub-messages—Obama is dishonest, Obama is a usurper, Obama is an affirmative-action baby—are what matter.

* The birth certificate controversy was all Obama's fault, anyway! No, seriously: this is an actual meme now. Why did he wait so long? Why did he let this become an issue? Why, Mr. President, did you force us to act like paranoid wackjobs for three years? Expect commentators to demand answers.

In short, the carnival will keep barking. Believers will keep believing. And be sure to tune in for the exciting finale of Celebrity Apprentice! You lucky, lucky country!

Read more: http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2011/0...#ixzz1KlEmlfPJ

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I try really hard not to accuse folks who actually buy into this crap of being racist but it's becoming harder by the day. I've followed politics since the late 50's and have never seen anything like the right's personal attacks on a sitting President. There were snide remarks about Bush's academics and intelligence but not by candidates and nowhere near this degree. Wallace played the race card and sadly drew significant support but was quickly rejected by both parties. Nixon learned early on how to play to the nation's paranoia....but man oh man, what's next for the Obama haters?

the left is the party of the KKK and other hate groups

accusing others will not change that fact

how many times have the left said things about George Bush
even calling for his assassination

Bush is smarter than John Kerry and Obama - his grades are proof of that
Obama has provided no proof

it takes him 2 years just to provide a birth certificate that looks nothing like mine. Where are the foot prints?

[Danzig]

"I think the media is loving this because they want to make birthers, as they call people who are just curious about the President of the United States and his background and his associations and his consistency with what he says today versus what he said in both the memoirs that he wrote or Bill Ayers or whomever wrote them—the media is loving the fact that some curious Americans are actually asking the questions. And they're trying to make those curious Americans sound kind of crazy. So the media is loving this issue and they're perpetuating the issue, trying to make it sound really worse than it is."—Sarah Palin, in an interview with Fox News' Greta van Susteren, April 26, 2011


and some people still wonder why mccain lost......

[joeydb]

I'm glad he released it. I am so sick of hearing about this "birther" crap.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

the left is the party of the KKK and other hate groups

accusing others will not change that fact

how many times have the left said things about George Bush
even calling for his assassination

Bush is smarter than John Kerry and Obama - his grades are proof of that
Obama has provided no proof

it takes him 2 years just to provide a birth certificate that looks nothing like mine. Where are the foot prints?

Your stupidity is astonishing. How do you function day to day?

[dellinger63]

IMO Oprah needed a show and called in her favor.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Your stupidity is astonishing. How do you function day to day?

not so quick. he could be onto something. it doesn't look like mine either.

where's my mom and dad's name?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

not so quick. he could be onto something. it doesn't look like mine either.

where's my mom and dad's name?

LOL!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Bush is smarter than John Kerry and Obama - his grades are proof of that
Obama has provided no proof

it takes him 2 years just to provide a birth certificate that looks nothing like mine. Where are the foot prints?

you were serious with this shit????????????????????

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

you were serious with this shit????????????????????

Unfortunately regardless of whether he is or not, a lot of folks are! When I taught crisis intervention, I stressed that folks in crisis reach a point where verbal intervention is useless cause they simply don't hear, their emotions have exploded and they are deaf to the world....same with the Obama haters!

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Your stupidity is astonishing. How do you function day to day?

you a$$holishness is amazing how is it you are not hated by your family
and friends

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

you were serious with this shit????????????????????

from USA today


Kerry's grades were made public this past week by the Boston Globe, which found them in his U.S. Navy officer training school application. During the campaign, Kerry refused to waive privacy restrictions for the full file, but gave the Navy permission to release the documents last month, the Globe reported.

The transcript showed that he got four Ds in his freshman year, Bush received one D in his four years, in astronomy. At the time, Yale considered grades between 70 and 79 a C and 60 to 69 a D.

"I always told my Dad that D stood for distinction," Kerry said in a written response to reporters' questions, the Globe reported.

Bush, in an interview last Wednesday with Neil Cavuto on Fox News Channel, was asked what he thought about the release of the Kerry transcripts.

He chuckled and replied, "I didn't think much about it. You know, I've always tried to lower expectations, and I feel like if people say, well, you know, maybe, you know, I don't think you (can) handle the tough job, and when you do, it impresses people even more. But my view is the campaign is over."

Cavuto, however, pressed on: " Yes. He was billed as the intellectual, though, and you had better grades in college."

But Bush did not jump at the opportunity to revel in it: "Yes. Well, as I said, I like to lower expectations."

the crap about the birth certificate is in jest
but it still doesn't look like the one I have

I am seldom serious

but Somer believes that a republican not agreeing with or voting for a democrat is racist.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

but Somer believes that a republican not agreeing with or voting for a democrat is racist.

That's completely not true and you know it.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

That's completely not true and you know it.

He knows but he tries really hard to bait me. There are a variety of racists afoot, and yes...Democrats are well represented.

[Honu]

Who cares ? I didnt vote for him and I wont vote for him next time and I dont care what planet he is from.