6/11 (BEL): Belmont Stakes Probables/Possibles

[Kasept]

Belmont Stakes probable starters:

Animal Kingdom Graham Motion 2nd - Preakness (J. Velazquez)
Brilliant Speed Tom Albertrani 7th - Ky. Derby (J. Rosario)
Isn’t He Perfect Doodnauth Shivmangal 9th - Preakness
Master of Hounds Aidan O'Brien 5th - Ky. Derby (G. Gomez)
Monzon Ignacio Correas IV 6th - Peter Pan
Mucho Macho Man Kathy Ritvo 6th - Preakness (R. Dominguez)
Nehro Steve Asmussen 2nd - Ky. Derby
Prime Cut Neil Howard - Peter Pan (E. Prado)
Ruler On Ice Kelly Breen 2nd - Federico Tesio
Santiva Eddie Kenneally 6th - Ky. Derby
Shackleford Dale Romans 1st - Preakness (J. Castanon)
Stay Thirsty Todd Pletcher 12th - Ky. Derby

Possibles:

Harlan’s Hello Doodnauth Shivmangal 1st - Op. claiming

[randallscott35]

Didn't Prime Cut show he couldn't really stay even 9 furlongs? What makes them think he wants 12.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Shackleford
Animal Kingdom
Mucho Macho Man
Stay Thirsty
Alternation
Prime Cut
Nehro
Master of Hounds
Santiva
Anthony’s Cross
Jaycito
Awesome Patriot/Uncle Sam
Harlan’s Hello
Isn’t He Perfect

Punch me in the mouth and hit me over the head with a board and take half my bet if I decide to bet Mucho Macho Man again. At least I'll have half my bet left.

[randallscott35]

But he lost a shoe! ....Yeah I was sucked in. Oh well. Learned my lesson.

[hockey2315]

The extra ground is definitely going to make a difference for Isn't He Perfect.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

The extra ground is definitely going to make a difference for Isn't He Perfect.

Doogal will send!! A true stayer

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

But he lost a shoe! ....Yeah I was sucked in. Oh well. Learned my lesson.

Hey, we all have at least one in our past. #ilovejaycito

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Hey, we all have at least one in our past. #ilovejaycito

Nicole, I can only imagine your shoe closet. Puts Sarah Jessica Parker to shame no doubt.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by jms62

Punch me in the mouth and hit me over the head with a board and take half my bet if I decide to bet Mucho Macho Man again. At least I'll have half my bet left.

I don't know if I have been brain washed by the tactics of many of today's connections (by babying and over protecting horses), but I really don't understand or see the need for MMM (and for that matter Animal Kingdom/Shackelford) to run at Belmont. Obviously there is no TC at stake, so why run for the 3rd time in 5 weeks? Both horses (AK & Shack) have run big the last 2 races, so why not sit out the Belmont and rest up for the summer campaign?

[HaloWishingwell]

As for Stay Thirsty , did anyone tell Repole that 1 1/2 means the distance of the race and not to complete it in an hour and half time.

[PatCummings]

Master of Hounds worked this morning and is still greenlighted for the Belmont, in what would be his third international ship in 2.5 months.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Nicole, I can only imagine your shoe closet. Puts Sarah Jessica Parker to shame no doubt.

Sadly, where she has shoes, I have only yellowing win tickets on Borrego... Sun King... Wilco... Desert Party.... whoever it was i bet on in the Derby last year... whoever it is I'll bet on at Belmont this year...

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I don't know if I have been brain washed by the tactics of many of today's connections (by babying and over protecting horses), but I really don't understand or see the need for MMM (and for that matter Animal Kingdom/Shackelford) to run at Belmont. Obviously there is no TC at stake, so why run for the 3rd time in 5 weeks? Both horses (AK & Shack) have run big the last 2 races, so why not sit out the Belmont and rest up for the summer campaign?

if he's healthy, why not? big purse money involved

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Sadly, where she has shoes, I have only yellowing win tickets on Borrego... Sun King... Wilco... Desert Party.... whoever it was i bet on in the Derby last year... whoever it is I'll bet on at Belmont this year...

Wilko!

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I don't know if I have been brain washed by the tactics of many of today's connections (by babying and over protecting horses), but I really don't understand or see the need for MMM (and for that matter Animal Kingdom/Shackelford) to run at Belmont. Obviously there is no TC at stake, so why run for the 3rd time in 5 weeks? Both horses (AK & Shack) have run big the last 2 races, so why not sit out the Belmont and rest up for the summer campaign?

If a horse manages to win two thirds of the triple crown in this crop they are probably going to win 3yo championship honors.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

if he's healthy, why not? big purse money involved

In AK and Shack you are talking about horses that had 4 & 5 career starts going into the Derby. Now you are talking about them racing for the 3rd time in 5 weeks. Is it a bit excessive for a young lightly raced horse? I don't know what the right answer is , like I said maybe I have been influenced by the light schedules that many of the older horses have taken over the last couple of years.

As far as the purse goes, there are plenty of big ones in the summer as well.

I guess it might be an interesting poll question. What would you do if you were the owner of AK, Shack or MMM? Would you race for the 3rd time in 5 weeks or would you give your horse a break before prepping for the mid summer derbys and an eventual trip to the BC.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

In AK and Shack you are talking about horses that had 4 & 5 career starts going into the Derby. Now you are talking about them racing for the 3rd time in 5 weeks. Is it a bit excessive for a young lightly raced horse? I don't know what the right answer is , like I said maybe I have been influenced by the light schedules that many of the older horses have taken over the last couple of years.

As far as the purse goes, there are plenty of big ones in the summer as well.

I guess it might be an interesting poll question. What would you do if you were the owner of AK, Shack or MMM? Would you race for the 3rd time in 5 weeks or would you give your horse a break before prepping for the mid summer derbys and an eventual trip to the BC.

If I was an owner, and the horse was eating up and training fine and not losing much weight, I'd run no doubt. I'd run whenever I could if those conditions in the first sentence were met. Shoot, I wouldnt even mind if my trainer actually raced my horse to get it in top shape!

[Mike]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Master of Hounds worked this morning and is still greenlighted for the Belmont, in what would be his third international ship in 2.5 months.

Why didn't he just stay in the U.S.? I always figured they would give the Belmont Stakes a go.Is it cheaper to fly him back and forth, rather than rent a room?

[tjfla]

What is the max # that can go? 14?

On the brightside of things,the Woody Stephens is gonna look great with The Factor OUT.

[Alan07]

Originally Posted by tjfla

What is the max # that can go? 14?

The Belmont field will be limited to sixteen (16) starters.

Q: Why does the Belmont only payout to first 5 while every other NY stake pays to last?