Breeder's Cup Heartbreaks

[munster705]

Does anyone have any heartbreaking losses?

I had a couple. I would have hit the late pick 4 if Goldikova gets it done. I also switched at the last second and bet Ruler on Ice instead of Drosselmeyer in the Classic.

[Seattleallstar]

If Perfect Shirl doenst win im signing tax forms on a pk 4 ticket

[munster705]

What do you think that late pick 4 on Saturday pays if Goldikova wins? I figure it is $1,500 or so for 50 cents even with her winning. Hansen beats Union Rags. You had to go pretty deep to have Drosselmeyer. O'Brien's horse in the Turf was 4th or 5th choice.

[rpncaine]

I needed Turallure to hit that PK4 on a $16 ticket. Would love to know what people think the .50c PK4 would have been?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by rpncaine

I needed Turallure to hit that PK4 on a $16 ticket. Would love to know what people think the .50c PK4 would have been?

The parlay for .50 is $32,842 but Turallure was on a lot of P4 plays.

I addressed this on air this morning and speculated that it would likely have been between $15k-$20k.

[rpncaine]

OMG! Can't wait to hear the replay this afternoon. I'm about sick over this one.

[munster705]

That is a sick sick beat. Lose by a flared nostril to a hrose that was over the hill years ago

[VOL JACK]

I had a $33 Pick 5 ticket alive and singled to Jackson Bend.
It was paying $30,107.
I was also alive to Force Freeze for 3k in Pick 3's and Double's also. (my 2nd choice)

The worst part was I felt I had to hedge, and spent $600 back wheeling Jackson Bend in exacta's.

[Arletta]

Brilliant Speed, and Court Vision killed both my supers and Pick 4.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by munster705

That is a sick sick beat. Lose by a flared nostril to a hrose that was over the hill years ago

This was a burn for many people and a loss to a 60-1 shot it seems tougher than being beaten by a logical contender.

No doubt he was at or near the bottom of the list in recency and form and with more than a few up and comers with good recent form the public let him go at near twice the price of any non-contender.

The horse and connections deserve some credit though when all is said and done. In four starts this year he has changed trainers four times. Going into the race he was one of only four multiple G1 winners and his three G1 turf wins equaled the remainder of the field.

Court Vision may have appeared over the hill "years ago" but he ran a hell of a race. Good for him.

[lemoncrush]

On Saturday, I bet a small 50 cent PK 5 ticket for $15.

I was 4 out of 4, and alive to Jackson Bend. They showed the Wii Pays with about 8 minutes to post. It was paying $30,000 for 50 cents.

I felt hopeless, knowing if the 5-2 favorite wins, it pays me $30K, and then kept thinking..maybe Jackson Bend was better at 7 furlongs, he just ran a lifetime top figure in the slop, would he regress, would be be too far back with the way the track was playing, etc.. etc...

Obviously, Jackson Bend was a non-threatening 3rd, but Amazombie and Big Drama were the only other horses I considered including.

The "woulda coulda shouldas" that haunted me the rest of the night (I was in Vegas at the time, so imagine the night I could have had in that town with that kind of money), knowing how investing another $30 could have made such a difference on that small ticket.

[Calzone Lord]

I wouldn't call this a bad beat or a heartbreaker -- but it's a pretty amusing story.

Going into the Breeders Cup Mile -- my whole entire betting strategy was simply to get both Gio Ponti and Goldikova beat -- but have them both finish together underneath in the exotics.

Gio Ponti is a hanger -- to me he was near certain on the board -- but couldn't win.

I was very turned off with Goldikova's chances of winning when I heard them claim they wanted to lay 3rd or 4th and let her use tactical speed. I didn't think she'd have any punch staying close to horses like Get Stormy and Sidney's Candy. But, she was way too classy and consistant to not finish on the board against those -- especially with a certain ground saving trip.

So -- I bet the race keying only them 2nd and 3rd in tri's. And 2nd and 4th and 3rd and 4th in Supers.

I'm happy when they finish 3rd and 4th.

Suddenly, I remember that I used ALL in the 2nd slot of every dime super. But I excluded Court Vision and one other horse from the first slot. Saving me $4 while I'm betting off a voucher that was worth several thousand.



The 10-cent super 9-13-1-5 paid $1,346.34 that race. Had I not "saved" like $4 a rattle on my gigantic voucher I'd have hit it four times for $5,385.36 -- The reason you play dime tickets multiple times is to avoid signing, by the way... I'd have been signing for each ticket though.

Anyway, since I gave Court Vision less than a 1% chance of winning -- and I hated Turralure from his post -- I REALLY didn't deserve to win that race... and would have been lucky had I not been so comically cheap.

[Thunder Gulch]

Court Vision is the one winner I would have never come up with. Just no way.

Having Up win the photo for 4th in the JFT cost me a nice superfecta.

[PatCummings]

This was one of my B A B A tickets in the p4 - Her Smile covered 30+ feet more than Musical Romance and barely lost...alas. I'm thinking this would've been about a $5k score.

I watched the replay after work on friday and after watching Secret Circle win that race, I had thought I had the Pick 5. Excited, I looked at my account balance but it did not reflect any increase. I had not known that #7 Congo in the second race had been DQ'd off of an objection that he did not instigate. How does he get DQ'd and Goldikova get off scott free???

[HaloWishingwell]

If Misty For Me had a jockey with a pulse I would have hit the late pick three and pick 4. Worse yet if Flat Out doesnt get edged by Havre De Grace I would have had $30,000 + superfecta.

[VOL JACK]

While watching BC replays today... I realized I took another bad beat I didn't even realize.

Dullahan necking out Take Charge Indy cost me a $3 Super.
Since when did Kent Dedumbeaux start finishing on horses?

I thought when watching the race on site that Take Charge Indy faded further down the lane and finished 6th or 7th.

Then there was the whole Havelock fiasco.

I wish I would have went back home after Friday.

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

I watched the replay after work on friday and after watching Secret Circle win that race, I had thought I had the Pick 5. Excited, I looked at my account balance but it did not reflect any increase. I had not known that #7 Congo in the second race had been DQ'd off of an objection that he did not instigate. How does he get DQ'd and Goldikova get off scott free???

He gets DQ'd because Johnny V. struck the outside horse in the face with the whip 6-7 strides before the wire, causing him to lose his action. Not much grey area in that one.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Revidere

He gets DQ'd because Johnny V. struck the outside horse in the face with the whip 6-7 strides before the wire, causing him to lose his action. Not much grey area in that one.

I agree, but couldn't an argument have been made that the third horse drifting, herding to be honest, exacerbated the situation perhaps causing the whip incident?

[ateamstupid]

Went 3 of 4 in the early Pick 4 on Saturday. Had Force Freeze, didn't have Amazombie. Of course FF had to put up a fight when AMZ came to him and give me false hope that he'd get his nose back up.