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Old 11-21-2011, 01:06 PM
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Default Newt on "Occupy Wall Street"...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ke_a_bath.html

Newt Gingrich offers his advice to the "Occupy" protesters.

"Go get a job after you take a bath," he said to raucous applause at the Thanksgiving Family Forum in Des Moines, Iowa.
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Old 11-21-2011, 01:09 PM
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I dont know whats worse, his comment regarding Occupy Wall Street, or that he participated in the Thanksgiving Family Forum

come on Newt, you're better than that. No need to butter up the outrageous religous right.
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Old 11-21-2011, 01:13 PM
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ke_a_bath.html

Newt Gingrich offers his advice to the "Occupy" protesters.

"Go get a job after you take a bath," he said to raucous applause at the Thanksgiving Family Forum in Des Moines, Iowa.
Smart guy this serial adulterer running for president and all and assuming ALL supporters of Occupy Wallstreet are Dems and insulting them.
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Old 11-21-2011, 03:25 PM
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Smart guy this serial adulterer running for president and all and assuming ALL supporters of Occupy Wallstreet are Dems and insulting them.
He's made comments linking the protestors to a "breakdown of the country's moral values"...pot, meet kettle! Newt my man, you've been gaining in the polls thanks largely to keeping your mouth shut....weird time to abandon that practice.
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Old 11-21-2011, 03:32 PM
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He's made comments linking the protestors to a "breakdown of the country's moral values"...pot, meet kettle! Newt my man, you've been gaining in the polls thanks largely to keeping your mouth shut....weird time to abandon that practice.
I hope he was just being an a$$ because he was talking infront of a large number of assholes (Thanksgiving Family Forum).. just being a typical politician.

Newt is probably the most brilliant choice we have for 2012... and he needs to stay far far away from being a typical religious hypocrite.
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Old 11-21-2011, 05:11 PM
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I hope he was just being an a$$ because he was talking infront of a large number of assholes (Thanksgiving Family Forum).. just being a typical politician.

Newt is probably the most brilliant choice we have for 2012... and he needs to stay far far away from being a typical religious hypocrite.
Brilliant? How in the world so?

Newt is a wholly-owned lobbyist. He's a serial liar, wholly untrustworthy. He was never "brilliant" in a smart way, especially when he was in office - he was literally kicked out by his party just after he was just re-elected.
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Brilliant in that he's probably forgot more about good policy and politics than Obama has ever learned.
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Brilliant in that he's probably forgot more about good policy and politics than Obama has ever learned.
Well, good policy and good politics are two entirely different things

The only credit I'll give Newt (having lived through his first political incarnation) is that he rightly would cross party lines to make deals, as they all should. However, he woefully exaggerates his place in history throughout his term as Speaker.
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Brilliant? How in the world so?

Newt is a wholly-owned lobbyist. He's a serial liar, wholly untrustworthy. He was never "brilliant" in a smart way, especially when he was in office - he was literally kicked out by his party just after he was just re-elected.
well, i guess with newt you know what you're getting, unlike other pols. well, you know what you're getting with all them too, but they act like they're not your typical politician.
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If you woke up tomorrow and needed somebody to take the reigns, you'd have to go with Newt, as imperfect as that might be. I think he's the only one with a fighting chance against President Obama - and I don't believe that will be (or should be) enough.
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If you woke up tomorrow and needed somebody to take the reigns, you'd have to go with Newt, as imperfect as that might be. I think he's the only one with a fighting chance against President Obama - and I don't believe that will be (or should be) enough.
I agree - just one correction: I think you meant "take the reins". Sounds the same but big difference - after all, we are a constitutionally federated republic and we do not have a king - no matter what the current occupant of the White House thinks.
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So you guys that like Newt ... do you like his idea for poor kids in elementary school working for their education by cleaning the bathrooms in their schools?

How about poor children being taken away from their parents, if the parents are on welfare, and put into orphanages to save the state money by not paying that parent for child welfare? You know, keep those welfare queens from making more babies just for the riches.
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I agree - just one correction: I think you meant "take the reins". Sounds the same but big difference - after all, we are a constitutionally federated republic and we do not have a king - no matter what the current occupant of the White House thinks.
How so? Specific example?
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Wow, if there's one word on this board that I should get right you would think it would be "reins." I appreciate the catch.

Given the developments of the last couple of days I would welcome some "reigning." All very sad. Sometimes I wish President Obama would do a little more reigning. Right now everything feels very directionless. Hard to believe 12 smart people can be put in a room for months and come out with nothing. I just have trouble understanding that.
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when do the tea partiers start chewing newt's leg off over his long standing support for individual mandates?

aren't we in a constitutional crisis over this?

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i don't care for newt; i think he has too much baggage to actually be a viable candidate.
but, he's the latest non-romney to get attention. i don't care for any of the choices for 2010 at this point. and that includes the current office holder.
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So you guys that like Newt ... do you like his idea for poor kids in elementary school working for their education by cleaning the bathrooms in their schools?

How about poor children being taken away from their parents, if the parents are on welfare, and put into orphanages to save the state money by not paying that parent for child welfare? You know, keep those welfare queens from making more babies just for the riches.
Might be a little out there but......not very along in ago in this nations growing regions it was expected that if you could walk and talk you better get your butt to work to help out. Cut the grass , pull weeds, haul hay and muck stalls, along with feeidng the livestock. Everyone should know the value of hardwork its what makes getting an education more valuable.
Some of those kids from crap homes would be well served to learn how to clean and do janitorial work. They could grow up and have a skill, join the Union and get very well payed for scrubbing toilets.
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when do the tea partiers start chewing newt's leg off over his long standing support for individual mandates?

aren't we in a constitutional crisis over this?

that heritage foundation is a fount of socialistic idea's.
Americans secretly love socialism. Newt vs. Obama will be an epic battle.

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Might be a little out there but......not very along in ago in this nations growing regions it was expected that if you could walk and talk you better get your butt to work to help out. Cut the grass , pull weeds, haul hay and muck stalls, along with feeidng the livestock. Everyone should know the value of hardwork its what makes getting an education more valuable.
Some of those kids from crap homes would be well served to learn how to clean and do janitorial work. They could grow up and have a skill, join the Union and get very well payed for scrubbing toilets.
Yeah how awful.
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Old 11-23-2011, 11:38 AM
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It seems Newts point was entirely missed by his fans:

Elementary school education should not be free and open to everyone.
It should be privatized and cost money.

(Right there, I can't see how anyone could support that change in the United States of America.)

Yet, Newt goes on:

Those children too poor to afford the cost of a basic education could work for it.

They could do so by doing a job that is now considered too dangerous and illegal for them to do (work with toxic chemicals, exposure to disease, etc)

Child labor laws are "stupid" (Newt's word) and now prevent that, and should be repealed to allow this.

Newts ideas have nothing at all to do with the way kids nowadays start their work careers at age 14 or so by working part-time after school or on weekends.
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