Timmy Ice Tebow...

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and no, some don't care if they win-look at many players' reactions after a loss. all smiles, hanging out in the field with their buddies from the opposing team. walking around on the sideline joking and laughing while the clock ticks down.

why do you have to bring up the Eagles??

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Danzig

and no, some don't care if they win-look at many players' reactions after a loss. all smiles, hanging out in the field with their buddies from the opposing team. walking around on the sideline joking and laughing while the clock ticks down.

I don't agree with this. Smiling and shaking hands with the other team after the game,
has nothing to do with whether you played hard or tried your @ss off. Nothing at all.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I don't agree with this. Smiling and shaking hands with the other team after the game,
has nothing to do with whether you played hard or tried your @ss off. Nothing at all.

there's saying 'good game' and exhibiting good sportsmanship and then there's just not caring. these spoiled athletes care if they get paid, some care if the win but most just care that they get paid. contracts be damned, if they have a good season they hold out for more money whether they have a five year deal or not. have a less than stellar season, what do you think the reaction would be if the owner tried to pay them less?

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Danzig

there's saying 'good game' and exhibiting good sportsmanship and then there's just not caring. these spoiled athletes care if they get paid, some care if the win but most just care that they get paid. contracts be damned, if they have a good season they hold out for more money whether they have a five year deal or not. have a less than stellar season, what do you think the reaction would be if the owner tried to pay them less?

I thought standard operating procedure was you blow up a company you leave and get 30 or 40 million bonus for your destruction and walking away. These pro athletes just following the examples of those above them!!

[MaTH716]

I just think that the league/media have attached themselves to this guy for a couple of reasons. He was such a success in college and it was well publicized. Then so many people said that he wasn't going to cut it in the NFL and he's having some early success. Also he is very easy to root for (along the lines of what Joey has mentioned). It has all the makings of a CBS Sunday night movie.

What's also helping this story is the lack of other storylines going on in the league right now.

It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that the Pack are going to run the table in the regular season. I think the Pack has also taken away a lot of the spotlight away from the 49ers and the tremendous season they are having.

The Texans story is interesting, but really seems to be getting no play (even the Bears to an extent).

You have 2 mediocre teams battling for the NFC East crown and 3 in the AFC west (part of the Tebow story).

The Colts Manning/Luck debate will play out after the season

All the surprise/feel good teams seem to have started their declines (Bills, Bengals, Lions)

The demise of the Eagles has been a season long story and everyone is just waiting on Andy Reid's fate.

A lot of guys are staying out of trouble and others are keeping their mouths shut. Randy Moss and Brett Favre don't play in the league anymore and OchoCinco is a benchwarmer. Even guys like Rex and Jerry Jones have been relatively quiet.

Or maybe it's just the media playing everything else down, so it could be all Tebow all the time.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I just think that the league/media have attached themselves to this guy for a couple of reasons. He was such a success in college and it was well publicized. Then so many people said that he wasn't going to cut it in the NFL and he's having some early success. Also he is very easy to root for (along the lines of what Joey has mentioned). It has all the makings of a CBS Sunday night movie.

What's also helping this story is the lack of other storylines going on in the league right now.

It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that the Pack are going to run the table in the regular season. I think the Pack has also taken away a lot of the spotlight away from the 49ers and the tremendous season they are having.

The Texans story is interesting, but really seems to be getting no play (even the Bears to an extent).

You have 2 mediocre teams battling for the NFC East crown and 3 in the AFC west (part of the Tebow story).

The Colts Manning/Luck debate will play out after the season

All the surprise/feel good teams seem to have started their declines (Bills, Bengals, Lions)

The demise of the Eagles has been a season long story and everyone is just waiting on Andy Reid's fate.

A lot of guys are staying out of trouble and others are keeping their mouths shut. Randy Moss and Brett Favre don't play in the league anymore and OchoCinco is a benchwarmer. Even guys like Rex and Jerry Jones have been relatively quiet.

Or maybe it's just the media playing everything else down, so it could be all Tebow all the time.

The rest of the NFL is having fun with it:

After the media dispersed from his locker, Roethlisberger limped slowly to the trainer's room. He was going to get outfitted for a walking boot. On Friday, he'll have an MRI to find how bad the injury is.As Roethlisberger hobbled by like an old man, Tomlin shouted at him from a side door."Ben, that was magical, man!" he said, laughing. "That was Tebow-like!"

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/12/09/1...20&feedID=3725

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I just think that the league/media have attached themselves to this guy for a couple of reasons. He was such a success in college and it was well publicized. Then so many people said that he wasn't going to cut it in the NFL and he's having some early success. Also he is very easy to root for (along the lines of what Joey has mentioned). It has all the makings of a CBS Sunday night movie.

What's also helping this story is the lack of other storylines going on in the league right now.

It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that the Pack are going to run the table in the regular season. I think the Pack has also taken away a lot of the spotlight away from the 49ers and the tremendous season they are having.

The Texans story is interesting, but really seems to be getting no play (even the Bears to an extent).

You have 2 mediocre teams battling for the NFC East crown and 3 in the AFC west (part of the Tebow story).

The Colts Manning/Luck debate will play out after the season

All the surprise/feel good teams seem to have started their declines (Bills, Bengals, Lions)

The demise of the Eagles has been a season long story and everyone is just waiting on Andy Reid's fate.

A lot of guys are staying out of trouble and others are keeping their mouths shut. Randy Moss and Brett Favre don't play in the league anymore and OchoCinco is a benchwarmer. Even guys like Rex and Jerry Jones have been relatively quiet.

Or maybe it's just the media playing everything else down, so it could be all Tebow all the time.

He is getting all the coverage he gets because he (and the rest of the team) has made everyone one of them look like idiots for the coverage he got early on and the producers must love it.
Even Steve Young was recanting his statements of disbelief from the first few starts.

[horseofcourse]

The only starting quarterbacks with higher qb ratings than Tebow this year are Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Roethlisberger, Schaub, Stafford, Smith, Romo, and Manning. I'm guessing the standard reply would be that just proves how poor the qb ratings are!!

[Dahoss]

Why do people who criticized his play as an NFL QB look like idiots now? Because the Broncos are 7-5 in the 2nd worst divison in the NFL?

Impressive. Where is that Zenyatta song again?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Why do people who criticized his play as an NFL QB look like idiots now? Because the Broncos are 7-5 in the 2nd worst divison in the NFL?

Impressive. Where is that Zenyatta song again?

Once again, other than beating the Jets in an impossible situation for them:

Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

Like I said, if he wins a playoff game, I'll leave the board forever.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Once again, other than beating the Jets in an impossible situation for them:

Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

Like I said, if he wins a playoff game, I'll leave the board forever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3-ea...eature=related

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Once again, other than beating the Jets in an impossible situation for them:

Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

Like I said, if he wins a playoff game, I'll leave the board forever.

I'm surprised Tebow doesn't get credit for waking up the Dolphins since they're 4-2 since that game with close losses to Dallas and NY.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Once again, other than beating the Jets in an impossible situation for them:

Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

Like I said, if he wins a playoff game, I'll leave the board forever.

If you're gonna do this let's actually list all of them and their records and not the ones who simply make your silly point.

Raiders 7-5
Jets 7-5
Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

The Dolphins despite their record are really good at this present time. He's played fine to this point. I actually have no clue about his future, Them going 0-4 their last 4 would not shock me nor would 4-0.

[Dahoss]

All kidding aside, the Broncos success reminds me an awful lot of the Chiefs last year. They had the benefit of playing in that shi.tty division and had a little bit of success. A lot of people failed to really look at who they beat and how and thought they were going to make a strong playoff run, with the thought their future was bright.

They got crushed first round and are 5-7 this year. I can see a similar thing happening to the Tebow's.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

If you're gonna do this let's actually list all of them and their records and not the ones who simply make your silly point.

Raiders 7-5
Jets 7-5
Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

The Dolphins despite their record are really good at this present time. He's played fine to this point. I actually have no clue about his future, Them going 0-4 their last 4 would not shock me nor would 4-0.

Isn't it fair to mention they beat the Raiders who were being QB'd by a guy who was on his couch 2 weeks earlier? Or that the Jets were coming off a game 4 days earlier and had to travel?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

If you're gonna do this let's actually list all of them and their records and not the ones who simply make your silly point.

Raiders 7-5
Jets 7-5
Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

The Dolphins despite their record are really good at this present time. He's played fine to this point. I actually have no clue about his future, Them going 0-4 their last 4 would not shock me nor would 4-0.

The fish were 0-5 when they played the Broncos.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Isn't it fair to mention they beat the Raiders who were being QB'd by a guy who was on his couch 2 weeks earlier? Or that the Jets were coming off a game 4 days earlier and had to travel?

YEs, about the Raiders, but not the Jets. I'm not really very smart as all of you know. ANd your point about the Chiefs was good too, although I think them missing their star running back pretty much all year hasn't helped them either though even with him I think they struggle all year. I suppose I could use the excuse the Browns lost because they had a game 4 days earlier and had to travel to Pittsburgh but maybe that's not big enough travel?? No, I do not buy the Jets had a game 4 days earlier excuse or that they had to get on a plane.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The fish were 0-5 when they played the Broncos.

Maybe when they played that game they were starting to get pretty good. But I go back to my point that I'm not very smart. So perhaps they started getting good the NEXT week. I think the week after Denver they went to New York and led the Giants pretty much the whole game.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Maybe when they played that game they were starting to get pretty good. But I go back to my point that I'm not very smart. So perhaps they started getting good the NEXT week. I think the week after Denver they went to New York and led the Giants pretty much the whole game.

They s.hit the bed very late against the Broncos and then proceeded to get better and better. Either way, you can't stress Tebow's record as a starter and then say they caught a 0-5 team that was playing very well at the time.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Why do people who criticized his play as an NFL QB look like idiots now? Because the Broncos are 7-5 in the 2nd worst divison in the NFL?

Impressive. Where is that Zenyatta song again?

there is something incorrect in this post. they are tied for 1st in the division and own the tie braker