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06-14-2012, 08:44 AM
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Derby replaces graded earnings with point system
http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...e-2013-entries
In one of the most significant changes in the 139-year history of the Kentucky Derby, Churchill Downs will determine the 20-horse field for next year’s event through points accrued in selected prep races. The points system, to be known as the “Road to the Kentucky Derby” and intended to build advance fan interest, will begin this fall, with 2-year-olds able to earn points for the May 4 Derby in designated races. Churchill’s management believes the new structure, which it plans to announce today, organizes the preps into the equivalent of a regular season and playoffs, to which fans can relate. Ever since the field has been limited to 20 horses, some form of earnings has been used to determine the field. Since 1986, Churchill has used graded-stakes earnings. INFOGRAPHIC
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06-14-2012, 08:45 AM
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http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...TS08/306140026
KENTUCKY DERBY PREP SEASON Late September into February Points: 10 for first, 4 for second, 2 for third, 1 for fourth Race Distance Track Location Royal Lodge mile (T) Newmarket England Norfolk 1 1/16 miles Santa Anita California Breeders’ Futurity (S) 1 1/16 miles Keeneland Kentucky Champagne mile Belmont New York Grey 1 1/16 miles (S) Woodbine Canada Breeders’ Cup Juvenile 1 1/16 miles Santa Anita (X) California Delta Downs Jackpot 1 1/16 miles Delta Downs Louisiana Remsen 1 1/8 miles Aqueduct New York Kentucky Jockey Club 1 1/16 miles Churchill Kentucky CashCall Futurity 1 1/16 miles (S) Hollywood Park California Sham mile Santa Anita California Smarty Jones mile Oaklawn Arkansas Lecomte mile, 70 yards Fair Grounds Louisiana Holy Bull mile Gulfstream Florida Robert B. Lewis 1 1/16 miles Santa Anita California Sam F. Davis 1 1/16 miles Tampa Bay Downs Florida Withers 1 1/16 miles Aqueduct New York El Camino Real Derby 1 1/8 miles (S) Golden Gate California Southwest mile Oaklawn Arkansas KENTUCKY DERBY CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON PHASE ONE Late February to late March Points: 50 for first, 20 for second, 10 for third, 5 for fourth Race Distance Track Location Risen Star 1 1/16 miles Fair Grounds Louisiana Fountain of Youth 1 1/16 miles Gulfstream Florida Gotham 1 1/16 miles Aqueduct New York Tampa Bay Derby 1 1/16 miles Tampa Bay Downs Florida San Felipe 1 1/16 miles Santa Anita California Rebel 1 1/16 miles Oaklawn Arkansas Spiral 1 1/8 miles (S) Turfway Kentucky Sunland Derby 1 1/8 miles Sunland Park New Mexico PHASE TWO Late March through mid-April Points: 100 for first, 40 for second, 20 for third, 10 for fourth Race Distance Track Location Florida Derby 1 1/8 miles Gulfstream Florida UAE Derby 1 3/16 miles (S) Meydan Racecourse Dubai Louisiana Derby 1 1/8 miles Fair Grounds Louisiana Wood Memorial 1 1/8 miles Aqueduct New York Santa Anita Derby 1 1/8 miles Santa Anita California Arkansas Derby 1 1/8 miles Oaklawn Arkansas Blue Grass 1 1/8 miles (S) Keeneland Kentucky FINAL PHASE Late April Points: 20 for first, 8 for second, 4 for third, 2 for fourth Race Distance Track Location Lexington 1 1/16 miles (S) Keeneland Kentucky Derby Trial mile Churchill Kentucky Key: X-in 2012; T-turf; S-synthetic surfaceNote: Information is based on most recent running of races. The official 2012-13 race dates, purses and distances for each race will be announced by the host tracks.
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06-14-2012, 08:56 AM
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A third in the Sunland Derby is as important as a win in the BCJ or Hollywood Futurity?
Do the morons who run CD do ANYTHING right??????
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06-14-2012, 08:57 AM
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06-14-2012, 09:00 AM
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For instance, any top two year old who has a setback late in their 2yo season is going to have difficulty accruing points.
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06-14-2012, 09:07 AM
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Doesn't anyone suspect that this may be the hammer that they could use to try and push the anti-Lasix agenda in a few years?
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06-14-2012, 09:09 AM
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http://www.kentucky.com/2012/06/12/2...ban-would.html
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06-14-2012, 09:16 AM
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Exactly...could they end up saying that they won't use your race if you let Lasix horses run?
I'm just saying....
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06-14-2012, 09:17 AM
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People have been bitching about the graded earning system for years. Under this system, Bodemeister probably would have won the Kentucky Derby.
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06-14-2012, 09:19 AM
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I think it's a fantastic start.
The group that line in the gate on derby day will probably not change much, but this should make the final preps (FL Derby, SA Derby, etc..) much deeper and with better quality. Also Love the fact that: • Only one grass race counts • no races restricted to fillies count • Races under a mile don't count. It seems you'll have to earn your way in as a 3-year old, routing on dirt. That makes the most sense.
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06-14-2012, 09:23 AM
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I hadn't thought of the filly angle. Not sure I like that.
Just off the top of my head, a few horses who wouldn't have been in the starting gate in recent years if this system were in place would include Homeboykris and Trinneberg.
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06-14-2012, 09:25 AM
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That must be an oversight on the Illinois Derby. How do you include races like the El Camino Real and skip the Illinois Derby?
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06-14-2012, 09:27 AM
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06-14-2012, 09:28 AM
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Not that I disagree, but it appears as though the Delta Jackpot will not have the fields they once had. Still will be a money grab for those who try it.
The point system is interesting but at some point some very weird results will produce a bizarre(suspect) Derby starter or two. But that's probably happening already too.
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06-14-2012, 09:33 AM
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Also, why is the UAE Derby so valuable? The best ever finish by a UAE Derby-Kentucky Derby horse is 8th by Regal Ransom in 2009.
On second glance, this system needs some serious tweaking.
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06-14-2012, 09:34 AM
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The f'ing Blue Grass will produce a couple guaranteed Derby starters every year (not that this is anything new). We need more Monbas.
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