Hey Pres.. Nice move

[jms62]

Granting Immunity to young illegals. That'll surely get you elected.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by jms62

Granting Immunity to young illegals. That'll surely get you elected.

Undocumented please. They get an awful lot already, why not this too.

[dellinger63]

Obviously the President has evolved into being above the Presidential Oath of Office. You know that little thing about upholding the constitution and laws of the United States?

[Danzig]

it's not immunity, it will help obama in the election.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's not immunity, it will help obama in the election.

Just because someone says "It is NOT IMMUNITY, IT IS NOT AMNESTY" doesn't make it true. If they are NOT BEING BOOTED or to be politically correct "NOT IN THE REMOVAL SYSTEM".
What would you call it if they should be removed but aren't being removed? I am not out of line in calling that amnesty

“Young people who were brought to the United States through no fault of their own as children, who meet several key criteria, will no longer be removed from the country or entered into removal proceedings,” said Napolitano in a conference call with reporters on Friday morning.

“This grant of deferred action is not immunity, it is not amnesty, it is an exercise of discretion so that these young people are not in the removal system," she said. "It will help us continue to streamline immigration enforcement, ensure that resources are not spent pursuing the removal of low priority cases involving productive young people."

Also, this sounds like a great opportunity to bring in slave labor you know Truckloads of kids becausee after all
"Young people who were brought to the United States through no fault of their own as children" wouldn't be put in the "Removal System"

[Danzig]

i think you ignored the part of 'meet several key criteria'. it's not a blanket policy, it doesn't mean all youths are here to stay regardless. it does however keep people who aren't a priority for removal out of the mainstream of the system. obviously people here illegally is an issue, but the priority for removal should be the criminals, repeat offenders, etc. not a 19 year old student who may not even be aware he's an 'illegal'.

Where is Drugs? Need the Euro lines by margin.

I see Romney winning by at least 5 points. I'm almost tempted to go heavy with 8+ or more. There is a silent majority...well it's not really silent. You have to look for it online. It's a hunch but a good one. There will be documentaries after the election that will cover it. People aren't talking about it for a reason.

[Danzig]

'Under the new policy, people younger than 30 who came to the United States before the age of 16, pose no criminal or security threat, and were successful students or served in the military can get a two-year deferral from deportation, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said.


It also will allow those meeting the requirements to apply for work permits, Napolitano said, adding that participants must be in the United States now and be able to prove they have been living in the country continuously for at least five years.'


....that's from a cnn article about the new policy.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think you ignored the part of 'meet several key criteria'. it's not a blanket policy, it doesn't mean all youths are here to stay regardless. it does however keep people who aren't a priority for removal out of the mainstream of the system. obviously people here illegally is an issue, but the priority for removal should be the criminals, repeat offenders, etc. not a 19 year old student who may not even be aware he's an 'illegal'.

I agree with you vis a vis priorities but they don't call them Illegals because they are here legally. All should be removed when identified, no free passes, no using our taxpayer funded resources. We are broke

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

I agree with you vis a vis priorities but they don't call them Illegals because they are here legally. All should be removed when identified, no free passes, no using our taxpayer funded resources. We are broke

which is exactly why we should prioritize. and why they have the rules about work permits, and they must be successful students. those are exactly who we want, people willing to be a productive member of society.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

which is exactly why we should prioritize.

Identify and remove immediately.. Don't incentivise.

That's f.ucking crazy. We don't need any illegals. Especially now. Good grief wtf.

[MaTH716]

Look at the bright side, at least the jockey colony in Southern California will be light years better in a few years...........

[Riot]

For those that dislike illegal immigrants being here, the truth is that Obama has deported immigrants at a far higher rate than George Bush. You should be very happy with Obama's deportation rate of illegal immigrants. He's really stepped it up and increased getting rid of those illegals you don't want here.

If you are "pro-deportation" of illegals, Obama is your man.

Terrific move by the President. The House passed the DREAM Act two years ago, the Republicans in the Senate have stalled it ... good for you, Mr. President. Take these 800,000 good kids off the deportation roles, and give them work permits. Logical and fair.

Updated: February 5, 2012 - 7:23 PM
The number of illegal immigrants in the United States has dropped notably during the Obama administration -- from a high of 11.9 million in 2007 to 11.2 million in 2010.

That fact may be lost on many Americans in the din of presidential election rhetoric and the emergence of anti-immigration laws in several states where officials grew frustrated with what they perceived as the federal government's failure to enforce U.S. immigration policy.

Decreasing birth rates in Mexico and a weak U.S. economy are factors in the decline. The administration's aggressive deportation policy is a bigger factor, however.

The Obama administration has already deported 1.2 million illegal immigrants, compared with the 1.6 million deportations during the entire eight-year Bush administration.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Riot

For those that dislike illegal immigrants being here, the truth is that Obama has deported immigrants at a far higher rate than George Bush. You should be very happy with Obama's deportation rate of illegal immigrants. He's really stepped it up and increased getting rid of those illegals you don't want here.

If you are "pro-deportation" of illegals, Obama is your man.

Terrific move by the President. The House passed the DREAM Act two years ago, the Republicans in the Senate have stalled it ... good for you, Mr. President. Take these 800,000 good kids off the deportation roles, and give them work permits. Logical and fair.

Fair for all except our kids who will have even a more difficult task finding a job. Fair in a Depression no less?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

Fair for all except our kids who will have even a more difficult task finding a job. Fair in a Depression no less?

These ARE "our" kids. They don't know they were illegal. They made no choice. They have no fault in this. They had no choice to come here.

These children grew up as American citizens, as your and my children did, pledging allegiance to our flag, playing soccer, eating McDonalds, living life as an American. They are your childrens friends and schoolmates. They have served in our military and given years or their lives or limbs. They work and pay taxes.

Their illegal parents pay taxes (Medicare, Social Security) into a system, taxes they will never get out and we get in the pool for free. Their illegal parents pay taxes daily: property taxes through rent, taxes on the gasoline they purchase, the food they purchase, the items they purchase. I agree, those that choose to be here illegally as adults should be deported.

These children deserve no deportation, no tearing of the life they know to bits, being taken out of their homes, friends, schools and neighborhoods to be sent away to a strange country. They are American in every single same sense that my parents, the children of legal immigrants, were. They deserve the right to be allowed a path to legal citizenship - they are already Americans, our fellow Americans.

[Riot]

Secretary Napolitano Announces Deferred Action Process for Young People Who Are Low Enforcement Priorities

Release Date: June 15, 2012

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
Contact: 202-282-8010

La Secretaria Napolitano Anuncia Proceso De Acción Diferida Para Jóvenes Que Sean De Baja Prioridad Para La Aplicación De La Ley

WASHINGTON— Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano today announced that effective immediately, certain young people who were brought to the United States as young children, do not present a risk to national security or public safety, and meet several key criteria will be considered for relief from removal from the country or from entering into removal proceedings. Those who demonstrate that they meet the criteria will be eligible to receive deferred action for a period of two years, subject to renewal, and will be eligible to apply for work authorization.

“Our nation’s immigration laws must be enforced in a firm and sensible manner,” said Secretary Napolitano. “But they are not designed to be blindly enforced without consideration given to the individual circumstances of each case. Nor are they designed to remove productive young people to countries where they may not have lived or even speak the language. Discretion, which is used in so many other areas, is especially justified here.”

DHS continues to focus its enforcement resources on the removal of individuals who pose a national security or public safety risk, including immigrants convicted of crimes, violent criminals, felons, and repeat immigration law offenders. Today’s action further enhances the Department’s ability to focus on these priority removals.

Under this directive, individuals who demonstrate that they meet the following criteria will be eligible for an exercise of discretion, specifically deferred action, on a case by case basis:

- Came to the United States under the age of sixteen;

- Have continuously resided in the United States for a least five years preceding the date of this memorandum and are present in the United States on the date of this memorandum;

- Are currently in school, have graduated from high school, have obtained a general education development certificate, or are honorably discharged veterans of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States;

- Have not been convicted of a felony offense, a significant misdemeanor offense, multiple misdemeanor offenses, or otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety;

- Are not above the age of thirty.

Only those individuals who can prove through verifiable documentation that they meet these criteria will be eligible for deferred action. Individuals will not be eligible if they are not currently in the United States and cannot prove that they have been physically present in the United States for a period of not less than 5 years immediately preceding today’s date.

Deferred action requests are decided on a case-by-case basis. DHS cannot provide any assurance that all such requests will be granted.

The use of prosecutorial discretion confers no substantive right, immigration status, or pathway to citizenship. Only the Congress, acting through its legislative authority, can confer these rights.

While this guidance takes effect immediately, USCIS and ICE expect to begin implementation of the application processes within sixty days. In the meantime, individuals seeking more information on the new policy should visit USCIS’s website (at www.uscis.gov), ICE’s website (at www.ice.gov), or DHS’s website (at www.dhs.gov). Beginning Monday, individuals can also call USCIS’ hotline at 1-800-375-5283 or ICE’s hotline at 1-888-351-4024 during business hours with questions or to request more information on the forthcoming process.

For individuals who are in removal proceedings and have already been identified as meeting the eligibility criteria and have been offered an exercise of discretion as part of ICE’s ongoing case-by-case review, ICE will immediately begin to offer them deferred action for a period of two years, subject to renewal.

For more information on the Administration policy reforms to date, please see this fact sheet.

http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/20...ng-people.shtm

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Riot

Secretary Napolitano Announces Deferred Action Process for Young People Who Are Low Enforcement Priorities

Release Date: June 15, 2012

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
Contact: 202-282-8010

La Secretaria Napolitano Anuncia Proceso De Acción Diferida Para Jóvenes Que Sean De Baja Prioridad Para La Aplicación De La Ley

WASHINGTON— Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano today announced that effective immediately, certain young people who were brought to the United States as young children, do not present a risk to national security or public safety, and meet several key criteria will be considered for relief from removal from the country or from entering into removal proceedings. Those who demonstrate that they meet the criteria will be eligible to receive deferred action for a period of two years, subject to renewal, and will be eligible to apply for work authorization.

“Our nation’s immigration laws must be enforced in a firm and sensible manner,” said Secretary Napolitano. “But they are not designed to be blindly enforced without consideration given to the individual circumstances of each case. Nor are they designed to remove productive young people to countries where they may not have lived or even speak the language. Discretion, which is used in so many other areas, is especially justified here.”

DHS continues to focus its enforcement resources on the removal of individuals who pose a national security or public safety risk, including immigrants convicted of crimes, violent criminals, felons, and repeat immigration law offenders. Today’s action further enhances the Department’s ability to focus on these priority removals.

Under this directive, individuals who demonstrate that they meet the following criteria will be eligible for an exercise of discretion, specifically deferred action, on a case by case basis:

- Came to the United States under the age of sixteen;

- Have continuously resided in the United States for a least five years preceding the date of this memorandum and are present in the United States on the date of this memorandum;

- Are currently in school, have graduated from high school, have obtained a general education development certificate, or are honorably discharged veterans of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States;

- Have not been convicted of a felony offense, a significant misdemeanor offense, multiple misdemeanor offenses, or otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety;

- Are not above the age of thirty.

Only those individuals who can prove through verifiable documentation that they meet these criteria will be eligible for deferred action. Individuals will not be eligible if they are not currently in the United States and cannot prove that they have been physically present in the United States for a period of not less than 5 years immediately preceding today’s date.

Deferred action requests are decided on a case-by-case basis. DHS cannot provide any assurance that all such requests will be granted.

The use of prosecutorial discretion confers no substantive right, immigration status, or pathway to citizenship. Only the Congress, acting through its legislative authority, can confer these rights.

While this guidance takes effect immediately, USCIS and ICE expect to begin implementation of the application processes within sixty days. In the meantime, individuals seeking more information on the new policy should visit USCIS’s website (at www.uscis.gov), ICE’s website (at www.ice.gov), or DHS’s website (at www.dhs.gov). Beginning Monday, individuals can also call USCIS’ hotline at 1-800-375-5283 or ICE’s hotline at 1-888-351-4024 during business hours with questions or to request more information on the forthcoming process.

For individuals who are in removal proceedings and have already been identified as meeting the eligibility criteria and have been offered an exercise of discretion as part of ICE’s ongoing case-by-case review, ICE will immediately begin to offer them deferred action for a period of two years, subject to renewal.

For more information on the Administration policy reforms to date, please see this fact sheet.

http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/20...ng-people.shtm

Mark this day down because I believe it is the day he lost the election by giving a big FU to all citizins of the USA who are here from birth Legally. Let's wait and see.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

Mark this day down because I believe it is the day he lost the election by giving a big FU to all citizins of the USA who are here from birth Legally. Let's wait and see.

How did he do that? First, he's identifying illegals (children of illegals) that may be been unknown and getting them into the system (something that people who intensely dislike illegals should applaud).

And they are only giving them a two-year deferment on deportation "if" they meet certain criteria. There is no path to citizenship.

Frankly, if homeland security suddenly came to me and said, "We know you've been living here as an American your whole life, but you need to be deported, we found out your grandparents came here illegally, which makes your parents illegal, and you illegal" - it would be unfair and outrageous.

Politically, this is the day Obama won Colorado, probably Nevada, maybe Arizona and shifted Texas even more.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Riot

How did he do that? First, he's identifying illegals (children of illegals) that may be been unknown and getting them into the system (something that people who intensely dislike illegals should applaud).

And they are only giving them a two-year deferment on deportation "if" they meet certain criteria. There is no path to citizenship.

Politically, this is the day Obama won Colorado, probably Nevada, maybe Arizona and shifted Texas even more.

Like I said doing this in a depression is not going to go over well. He will not win the election. Mark this post. Sorry....