Not allowing others free speech

[Riot]

Two groups of political supporters, from different sides, face to face.

One man doesn't like what he's hearing. He gets angry, shove a water bottle, then a hankerchief, into the mouth of a protester on the other side. Says he did it because he wanted to protect the "free speech" of his side.

Suprisingly, he doesn't get the sh.i.a.t immediately beaten out of him for his battery.

Should he be arrested and charged? Yes or no.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Riot

Two groups of political supporters, from different sides, face to face.

One man doesn't like what he's hearing. He gets angry, shove a water bottle, then a hankerchief, into the mouth of a protester on the other side. Says he did it because he wanted to protect the "free speech" of his side.

Suprisingly, he doesn't get the sh.i.a.t immediately beaten out of him for his battery.

Should he be arrested and charged? Yes or no.

He should be arrested and charged with assault and bodily harm...if he's a democrat....no harm no foul if a repuke...

[AlreadyHome]

if he's a republican then he can get away with it
its the american way

freedom of speech speaks loud and clear and if one don't want to listen to it
all_well handle it, or cover your ears

Obama is all about Freedom of Speech.,Republicans always want to control what its said...

wtf is going on in this country....
Republicans jump on the wagon Obama does not Discriminate

[Riot]

77-year-old Romney Supporter Richard Brysac Silences Union Protester by emptying water in mouth, shoving handkerchief in mouth.

At one point, one of the protesters, Al Neal of Canton, 25, who said he was a union worker and a member of Fight for Fair Economy Ohio, was confronted by Richard Brysac, 77, of Parma.

Brysac attempted to quiet the protester by emptying a bottle of water in Neal's mouth.

"He seemed thirsty, so I tried to shove the bottle in his mouth," Brysac said. "I thought it was wrong to interfere with [Pawlenty's] freedom of speech.

"I acted out of character and I apologize if I offended anyone."

When the bottle didn't work, Brysac pulled out his handkerchief and gagged Neal.

Neal removed the handkerchief and continued chanting with the other protesters until the group was escorted from the rally.

Video here: http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/...tester-shoving

[Antitrust32]

so some guy who is old as dirt put water and a hanky in someones mouth and this deserves a thread?

and its supposed to be indicative towards conservatives?

Should he be arrested? fucl< no. if we arrested everyone who got into an extremely minor physical or verbal altercation then this whole country should be in jail.

Should he apologize? of course, and I believe he did.

I'm going to start a new thread about some fights I've witnessed at Eagles vs Cowboys games. It was much more intense than the subject of this thread, and had just as much to do with Romney as this thread does.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

so some guy who is old as dirt put water and a hanky in someones mouth and this deserves a thread?

and its supposed to be indicative towards conservatives?

Should he be arrested? fucl< no. if we arrested everyone who got into an extremely minor physical or verbal altercation then this whole country should be in jail.

Should he apologize? of course, and I believe he did.

I'm going to start a new thread about some fights I've witnessed at Eagles vs Cowboys games. It was much more intense than the subject of this thread, and had just as much to do with Romney as this thread does.

Actually, the subject of the thread is "Not allowing others free speech", and you'll note that in the initial post, I didn't mention the political views of the person involved.

I only wanted comments on the violent behaviour.

You apparently couldn't hold an opinion on how physical current political discourse can get until you figured out which side to "cheer" for. You bring up a silly accusation of "indictment of conservatives" - I didn't.

And I'll guess that if you were at a political rally, if someone who thought differently from you came up and poured water in your mouth, then stuck a handkerchief in your mouth to shut you up, you'd take offense and find it excessive, too. I know I'd throw a punch at the guy for doing that to me, and definitely have his arrogant ass arrested. And that has nothing at all to do with who has what political views.

It has to do with legal free speech - and those idiots, like the subject man, that only allow people that match their beliefs to have it. It was wrong when the Rand Paul supporters stomped on the girl opposing Paul's views. It's wrong to physically assault those that hold different opinions than you do. It's wrong for anarchists to use Occupy protests to destroy property.

Watching you excuse such violence with anger and insult is telling. I'll remember that you don't think it's wrong for strangers to come up to you in public, and shove water and a hanky in your mouth to shut you up, if they don't like what you are saying.

[Antitrust32]

I guess that is why the grandpa assaulter is known as "Romney Supporter", because this is a political party free thread.

And I'm pretty sure I gave an opinion on the matter. Old Man should apologize (which he did), not get arrested.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

And I'll guess that if you were at a political rally, if someone who thought differently from you came up and poured water in your mouth, then stuck a handkerchief in your mouth to shut you up, you'd take offense and find it excessive, too.

Of course I would take offense. dude would have got an earful from me, and if he was younger, probably a fistful.

But I certainly wouldnt alert police or get an old man sent to jail because he may be a bit beyond his prime Brain years and acted stupidly.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

so some guy who is old as dirt put water and a hanky in someones mouth and this deserves a thread?

I take exception to that remark//

[Antitrust32]

jesus woman. you edit your posts so many times, certainly makes a conversation difficult when you can just go back and change what you say.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by bigrun

I take exception to that remark//

I'm sorry

I meant.. "born before dirt was invented"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

jesus woman. you edit your posts so many times, certainly makes a conversation difficult when you can just go back and change what you say.

I've added, not changed.

C'mon - don't you think that it's a real concern, how physically violent our political arenas have gotten? The shoving and pushing at the healthcare rallies two August's ago? Gabby Giffords was shot. It's wrong. You can't think otherwise, do you?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I guess that is why the grandpa assaulter is known as "Romney Supporter", because this is a political party free thread.

And I'm pretty sure I gave an opinion on the matter. Old Man should apologize (which he did), not get arrested.

It was political party free when it started, before you started making it falsely about "indicative of conservatives". I posted the actual incident to show the actual incident wasn't made up.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I guess that is why the grandpa assaulter is known as "Romney Supporter", because this is a political party free thread.

And I'm pretty sure I gave an opinion on the matter. Old Man should apologize (which he did), not get arrested.

The person who committed the battery never apologized to the person he bullied.

[Antitrust32]

but then again, I prefer to use the police only when its absolutely necessary. Others, like some guy named Zimmerman, like to call the police on every thing that moves.

If the old man would have robbed me? yeah I would have called the police

If the old man had busted out a crowbar and broke my knees? yeah I would have called the police.

If he would have pulled a gun out and said that I am only allowed to support and listen to Romney? yeah I would have called the police.

If I called the police on everyone who tried to force me to shut up I would have a lot of family and friends with criminal records.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

If I called the police on everyone who tried to force me to shut up I would have a lot of family and friends with criminal records.

If your family and friends do things to you physically to "force" you to shut up, you need new family and friends, girl.

I'm sure you agree that political protests should not get physically violent - right? Let alone one person ridiculously using "freedom of speech" as an argument to justify his physical bullying to shut up those with differing opinions!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Watching you excuse such violence with anger and insult is telling. I'll remember that you don't think it's wrong for strangers to come up to you in public, and shove water and a hanky in your mouth to shut you up, if they don't like what you are saying.

to respond to your 6th different edit.

Yeah, I've made it perfectly clear that I dont think it's wrong because, like I never said the guy should apologize or anything like that.

I guess thinking a 77 year old man who made a stupid brain fart error should NOT get locked up makes me such a bad person with questionable morals.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

If your family and friends do things to you physically to "force" you to shut up, you need new family and friends, girl.

so when i was 17 or 18 and would tell my mom "fucl< you" and she would smack me in my mouth to shut me up.... i should have had my mother arrested for sure.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

to respond to your 6th different edit.

Yeah, I've made it perfectly clear that I dont think it's wrong because, like I never said the guy should apologize or anything like that.

I guess thinking a 77 year old man who made a stupid brain fart error should NOT get locked up makes me such a bad person with questionable morals.

At what age does physically assaulting those at a political rally who disagree with your views become "wrong" if it's okay to attack people when you are 77? When you're 60? 50?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

so when i was 17 or 18 and would tell my mom "fucl< you" and she would smack me in my mouth to shut me up.... i should have had my mother arrested for sure.

Nowadays you probably could have her successfully arrested.