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Old 11-10-2006, 06:42 PM
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Default The Health Vs. The Handle

I see so many articles about the handle being the important thing when discussing the health of the industry. I don't know that I share that belief. Simply based on increases in income over time and more wagering outlets, you'd expect to see increases in overall handle, especially for the Breeders Cup. When I go to the track what I see is an aging population of horse players. I don't see any young people and the ones I do see go to the free concerts or go to Preakness day to get hammered and bet 2$ at the window. This is a simulcast sport and the typical bettor will be dead in 30 years if not sooner (tongue in cheek). But honestly, I think handle is not the best way to talk about the health of the industry. And please don't tell me the 0.7 rating wasn't bad. It was awful considering the great promotional hump job that ESPN did for weeks.
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:14 PM
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Totally agree, I love racing as much as I love college football,
college b-ball and high school sports. As a frequent visitor of our
local OTB I notice that 2/3 of the people are over 50. The younger
crowd seems to be brought into racing by their relatives. I would say 60%
of the people don't have a racing program or the form. To these people racing is just a lottery/numbers game by just picking random numbers and
making bets. These people to me are just DG's, they just have to make a
bet because they sickos. They are also constantly trying to borrow money
from each other to fees their sickness
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:57 PM
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a lot of folks haven't moved into the modern era and gotten cable or a dish, so anything not on a network will suffer.
speaking of which, how's monday night on espn faring compared to on abc? i have no idea. obviously if football is doing better, than my attempt at explaining the severe drop in viewership is off the mark.
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:11 PM
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a lot of folks haven't moved into the modern era and gotten cable or a dish, so anything not on a network will suffer.
speaking of which, how's monday night on espn faring compared to on abc? i have no idea. obviously if football is doing better, than my attempt at explaining the severe drop in viewership is off the mark.
I'm pretty sure it's bombing, and I believe this past Monday's game was the lowest rated in MNF history by over one million viewers..
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:26 PM
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hmmm
only ratings i've heard on any of the games is the pats vs the colts, supposed to have been highly rated.
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:41 PM
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hmmm
only ratings i've heard on any of the games is the pats vs the colts, supposed to have been highly rated.
That was Sunday night, not Monday.

Not to digress, but NBC has a much better deal than ESPN. NBC can pick up until ten days in advance what game they want, and CBS and FOX can only protect one game apiece.. MNF has to strike a deal like that if they ever want to get ratings back, but obviously changing from Sunday to Monday is tougher logistically than changing from Sunday to Sunday night.

That doesn't excuse MNF for some of the awful games they've chosen this year which LOOKED AWFUL BEFORE THE SEASON. Honestly, they thought Packers/Eagles or Raiders/Seahawks were going to be big games?
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Old 11-10-2006, 09:14 PM
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I remember the same complaint about 'the aging of the audience' back in the 80s, and have read articles of the same complaint from the 50s. Weekday crowds will always have more retired folks because they don't have to work during the day.
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Old 11-11-2006, 11:43 AM
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Like it or not, the TB industry is driven by the gambling. Take the people with a gambling problem out of it and older fols have more disposible money to use. Thus it looks as if the older generation will always be the majority of the players. When I was in my mid20s to 40 I was raising a family ,managing and coaching sports , attending HS sports and using my disposible income raising a daughter and 3 sons. My off duty time from the fire dept was spent on at least 1 and sometimes 2 part time jobs trying to support the family . I didnt have time to develope a passion for racing. I have fell into the devils clutch after raising the family. There could be a logical explination for the age of the Horse racing fans.
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