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[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I agree with all of this with one exception. I think Notre Dame might be the 10th or 11th best team. If they were playing today, I would take Alabama, Stanford, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Ohio St, Oregon, South Carolina, and Texas A&M over them and maybe Florida St. I think Georgia beats them by at least 10 and Bama by at least 17.

Are stupid opinions like this Hoss good enough reason to feel the hatred and fire back? I wish Ohio st wasn't banned from a bowl game, ND would roll on them.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

So who was the mystery person (I believe you said they were female) that talks about you, that some made up person sends you pms whenever they say something about you?

Methinks you have your lies confused. Funny when that happens.

Me thinks your wrong again. You needed a more clever wager for us. $100 donation because you feel I did not make the last one is weak.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Last thing for the night, if Manti Teo doesn't win the heisman then that award is officially offensive players only. I honestly think they will give it to him and he is well deserving of it. He embodies what a college athlete should be on and off the field, class act.

Dude is a lock. A lot of old school voters are not voting Johnny football just because he is a freshman. I actually think Braxton Miller will finish second.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

I've never thought this years ND team is unbeatable or the greatest ever. I said they are pretty damn good and get no respect. Alabama may be better than them, but on January 7 they won't be. This team is all about winning, whether its be 3 or 30 their motto out of Kelly's mouth is find a way to win. He said he could have tried putting up style points and opening te offense up but that's not who they are and it would be a disservice to the team. They hit you in the mouth on defense and hit you in the mouth on offense with their run game.

you are calling anyone here who says anything at all critical about nd as being blinded by hatred. not exactly coming across as being rational in this discussion.
you continued to move forward because of the misfortune of others, not because dame showed they were better than the others.

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

My approach made me a bad fan? I'm sorry I don't just sit back and ignore the constant bashing that has gone on in this thread. When someone says a 12-0 team couldn't beat anyone in the top 10 I'm going to come out firing. Find something bad I said today that wasn't provoked.

constant bashing? but it's neither constant, nor bashing. like i said, critique isn't 'bashing'. as for the bolded, riotesque.

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Are stupid opinions like this Hoss good enough reason to feel the hatred and fire back? I wish Ohio st wasn't banned from a bowl game, ND would roll on them.

what makes his opinion 'stupid' and yours not? because it differs from yours?
feel hatred? really? hatred. wow

at any rate, good luck in january.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You just broke the lie meter with this one.

yeah, i know full well he intimated it was me, based on the context of that particular discussion.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Me thinks your wrong again. You needed a more clever wager for us. $100 donation because you know I did not make the last one is yet another opportunity for me to be found a liar.

ftfy

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Are stupid opinions like this Hoss good enough reason to feel the hatred and fire back? I wish Ohio st wasn't banned from a bowl game, ND would roll on them.

Having an opinion different than yours isn't hatred. This is like the Zenyatta nonsense all over again.

Look, I love Da Hoss the horse and think he was special. But I'm not going around calling people haters that don't agree with how good I thought he was.

I don't agree with King's opinion, but I don't think it's THAT crazy. Is it really that stupid to think all of those teams could beat Notre Dame in one game?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

I grew up with my family liking notre dame and a couple friends. Being from michigan I am surrounded by state and wolverine fans who hate and I mean hate notre dame. Maybe growing up hearing **** from them constantly gave me the us against the world mentality... Maybe someone like Rick Reilly writing that article about ND being irrelevant gives us that mentality. I dish it out and expect it back, if you think this is bad you should see the shi* I've gotten into on Facebook with people. Alcohol and the Internet don't mix too well haha

Who cares what Rick Reilly says? He's a hack.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Me thinks your wrong again. You needed a more clever wager for us. $100 donation because you feel I did not make the last one is weak.

Not as weak as not making the donation like you were supposed to.

But you'll have to excuse me if I'm having a hard time coming up with things. Since you've posted here, I won a bet from you where I won $200 and never saw a dime of it. I beat you head to head in a handicapping contest and you were supposed to be banned for good and you came back whining a couple of months later. Most recently I won another bet with you, where you were supposed to not post until next year and we can all see how well that turned out.

I could make the terms whatever and you wouldn't follow them, because that's the kind of guy you are, so why waste my time? At least with this, someone will verify you pay off and if not, it's clear you should be gone.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Not as weak as not making the donation like you were supposed to.

But you'll have to excuse me if I'm having a hard time coming up with things. Since you've posted here, I won a bet from you where I won $200 and never saw a dime of it. I beat you head to head in a handicapping contest and you were supposed to be banned for good and you came back whining a couple of months later. Most recently I won another bet with you, where you were supposed to not post until next year and we can all see how well that turned out.

I could make the terms whatever and you wouldn't follow them, because that's the kind of guy you are, so why waste my time? At least with this, someone will verify you pay off and if not, it's clear you should be gone.

I will hand you the 200$ anytime. Its out there for everyone to see since I'm so bad and such a liar. Anywhere within 50 miles of the flat track.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Last thing for the night, if Manti Teo doesn't win the heisman then that award is officially offensive players only. I honestly think they will give it to him and he is well deserving of it. He embodies what a college athlete should be on and off the field, class act.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/16641...manti-teo.html

[jms62]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Are stupid opinions like this Hoss good enough reason to feel the hatred and fire back? I wish Ohio st wasn't banned from a bowl game, ND would roll on them.

What year did you graduate from ND?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by jms62

What year did you graduate from ND?

He went to Michigan State

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by jms62

What year did you graduate from ND?

This again lol I'm a subway alumni

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by GBBob

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/16641...manti-teo.html

So this guy sees a problem with Kelly pushing his guy for heisman? This team is not 12-0 without HEISMANTI!!

[3kings]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I will hand you the 200$ anytime. Its out there for everyone to see since I'm so bad and such a liar. Anywhere within 50 miles of the flat track.

Please stop this. If you want people to believe you and respect you, live up to your word. Don't post till 1/1/13 and make your first post a copy of the reciept for the donation to charity that you made for losing the bet.

If not don't be shocked when people look at you like you are a habitual liar. In this life you are only as good as your word and to this point, at least on this board, you have not lived up to it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 3kings

Please stop this. If you want people to believe you and respect you, live up to your word. Don't post till 1/1/13 and make your first post a copy of the reciept for the donation to charity that you made for losing the bet.

If not don't be shocked when people look at you like you are a habitual liar. In this life you are only as good as your word and to this point, at least on this board, you have not liven up to it.

yeah, this is why he 'strongly dislikes me'. because i called him out on his lying, more than once. so he gets all defensive rather than actually use a little introspection.

and from what ic posted, if he won't pay child support, why would he make good on bets? if he isn't worried about his kids, why would he worry about strangers?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/16641...manti-teo.html

when they were discussing matthieu last year (glad he didn't get it, knowing all that's happened since) they said only one defensive player ever had gotten the heisman. and probably with good reason.
manziel has had a terrific season, but probably won't get some votes because he's a freshman (i think that is absurd, if he was the best player, why does it matter what year he's in?) so there has been and always will be people who won't for certain players for certain reasons. and one of those reason will always be position played. after all, linemen never get a nod. ray guy still isn't in the hall. plenty of examples of people who weren't considered the best player because of their position, or which side of the ball they play on. not saying it's right, it's just how it is.

[IrishofNDMan]

Manziel got arrested in July in an incident in which racial slurs were used by his buddy, doesn't seem like a guy heisman worthy.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Manziel got arrested in July in an incident in which racial slurs were used by his buddy, doesn't seem like a guy heisman worthy.

I know you love ND but this is just silly. Why should he be responsible for something his buddy said in anger? Gino Toretta won the Heisman Trophy, the trophy has been a joke since.