AQU to Inner for 3 Days

Kasept · #1 11-16-2006, 03:54 PM

Aqueduct will run main track races Friday, Saturday and Sunday on the Inner Track as repairs are made to the main...

Adjust your capping for Friday...

#2 11-16-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Aqueduct will run main track races Friday, Saturday and Sunday on the Inner Track as repairs are made to the main...

Adjust your capping for Friday...

Was just gonna post this but Steve beat me to it.
Important factor to keep in mind will be the distance changes.
No 7f races on the inner track. Usually not many flat miles either as they start real close to the turn.
Make sure you pay attention to distance changes.

blackthroatedwind · #3 11-16-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Aqueduct will run main track races Friday, Saturday and Sunday on the Inner Track as repairs are made to the main...

Adjust your capping for Friday...

I guess those are known as the " Discreet Cat " rules.

#4 11-16-2006, 04:06 PM

I also think that it would be very likely that we have seen our last grass race here for the year. I was hoping for a little break in the weather and a few more. A couple of the last three years we had grass racing here into December. Looks like we got paid back by Mother Nature for those flukes.
Grass horses will be getting on the next vans to Florida and Fair Grounds, and many will be for sale cheap now.

philcski · #5 11-16-2006, 04:45 PM

As if 4 months wasn't enough already.

Can someone explain to me what Campo was thinking, scheduling FOUR races at a mile on the inner for Saturday? It's a completely unfair racing distance for more than a 6 horse field.

Linny · #6 11-16-2006, 04:46 PM

Its been warm enough for turf but the rain has done in the turf season in NY.

blackthroatedwind · #7 11-16-2006, 04:55 PM

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Its been warm enough for turf but the rain has done in the turf season in NY.

I was just thinking the same thing. It's too bad.

Kasept · #8 11-16-2006, 05:00 PM

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As if 4 months wasn't enough already.

Can someone explain to me what Campo was thinking, scheduling FOUR races at a mile on the inner for Saturday? It's a completely unfair racing distance for more than a 6 horse field.

He was thinking that the races were going to be on the main...

The decision to go to the AQI came today after the 3rd race when the jocks were complaining that they wanted to stop the card... Trainers and mgmt and the jocks talked, the suggestion was made to go to the Inner for the weekend and everybody said, "Great idea..."

Gary Contessa just on ATRAB with us and explained how it unfolded at Ozone Park today. The main is waterlogged, and they've had no chance to work on it. He's coming back on the show at 6:30...

blackthroatedwind · #9 11-16-2006, 05:03 PM

So the jocks were OK to ride the rest of today after they decided to switch to the inner for the following three days? What kind of BS is that from them?

The jocks are ready to cancel at the drop of a hat. Quite a bunch of team players.

Perhaps once NYRA told them they would use the inner tomorrow the main track miraculously got safe.

I think Contessa feels the track is safer than others are claiming.

philcski · #10 11-16-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

He was thinking that the races were going to be on the main...

The decision to go to the AQI came today after the 3rd race when the jocks were complaining that they wanted to stop the card... Trainers and mgmt and the jocks talked, the suggestion was made to go to the Inner for the weekend and everybody said, "Great idea..."

Gary Contessa just on ATRAB with us and explained how it unfolded at Ozone Park today. The main is waterlogged, and they've had no chance to work on it. He's coming back on the show at 6:30...

Ahhh... well that makes sense, thanks steve. The races were full, which is a shame. Expect a ton of scratches out of those races.

I honestly have no problem with the inner, otherwise...

Sightseek · #11 11-18-2006, 10:25 AM

On the Down the Stretch Show on Capital OTB it sounds as if the Main Track may be questionable for longer than 3 days. Not good for the Cigar Mile.

georgewashington · #12 11-18-2006, 10:54 AM

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On the Down the Stretch Show on Capital OTB it sounds as if the Main Track may be questionable for longer than 3 days. Not good for the Cigar Mile.

Barclay Tagg entered Nobiz to run at Delta Downs next weekend in addition to the Remsen at Aqueduct. It appears he did this due to concern over the track conditions. It sounds like there are major issues with that track. I would not be shocked if Nobiz doesn't run in NY and Discreet Cat scratches.

NYRA is really going to look bad if both those horses don't go. There is no reason for them to not go all polytrack or cushion track at Aqueduct. They can keep the dirt at Saratoga and Belmont, but Aqueduct needs poly.

Sightseek · #13 11-18-2006, 11:00 AM

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Barclay Tagg entered Nobiz to run at Delta Downs next weekend in addition to the Remsen at Aqueduct. It appears he did this due to concern over the track conditions. It sounds like there are major issues with that track. I would not be shocked if Nobiz doesn't run in NY and Discreet Cat scratches.

NYRA is really going to look bad if both those horses don't go. There is no reason for them to not go all polytrack or cushion track at Aqueduct. They can keep the dirt at Saratoga and Belmont, but Aqueduct needs poly.

I kind of think that Discreet Cat is a win loose situation. If he goes, I expect few starters, if he doesn't it may add some. Question though, would the change of the track to inner have the same affect as turf to dirt in grading status? It is my understanding they would have to adjust the distance.

georgewashington · #14 11-18-2006, 11:18 AM

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I kind of think that Discreet Cat is a win loose situation. If he goes, I expect few starters, if he doesn't it may add some. Question though, would the change of the track to inner have the same affect as turf to dirt in grading status? It is my understanding they would have to adjust the distance.

That is a good question. I don't know. Discreet Cat wants that grade 1 too. NYRA really needs to do a better job with their tracks. They had problems with the turf at Belmont the week of the Man O War and now the problems with Aqueduct. There are many things you can be cheap with but taking care of the tracks isn't one of them. I don't know how the situation will change with slot machines but they need to do something. This is really not acceptable for NY racing.

Sightseek · #15 11-18-2006, 11:21 AM

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That is a good question. I don't know. Discreet Cat wants that grade 1 too. NYRA really needs to do a better job with their tracks. They had problems with the turf at Belmont the week of the Man O War and now the problems with Aqueduct. There are many things you can be cheap with but taking care of the tracks isn't one of them. I don't know how the situation will change with slot machines but they need to do something. This is really not acceptable for NY racing.

Well the weather hasn't been working in their favor either.

georgewashington · #16 11-18-2006, 11:35 AM

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Well the weather hasn't been working in their favor either.

Weather should not be an issue. They are off a track for days in advance. There is something wrong with track. It obviously was not well taken care of. I heard that this is not a 3 day thing. There is a chance they won't go back to the main track at all this year.

Danzig · #17 11-18-2006, 01:31 PM

the track is waterlogged--having an inner inside the main track would no doubt make drainage of the main track an issue.

and woodbine is already having problems with their poly, it's not holding up to the cold weather. so there would hopefully be no rush to put it at ny, which hasn't got the funds right now with their situation...

blackthroatedwind · #18 11-18-2006, 01:33 PM

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Weather should not be an issue. They are off a track for days in advance. There is something wrong with track. It obviously was not well taken care of. I heard that this is not a 3 day thing. There is a chance they won't go back to the main track at all this year.

I wonder, is it just on the internet you make irresponsible statements like this? " It obviously was not well taken care of "? So, your an expert on track maintenance as well. Good to know.

georgewashington · #19 11-18-2006, 01:38 PM

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I wonder, is it just on the internet you make irresponsible statements like this? " It obviously was not well taken care of "? So, your an expert on track maintenance as well. Good to know.

I am an expert on knowing they didn't take care of the turf at belmont, and blamed a lack of money for the reason, and I am an expert on knowing that rain shouldn't cause a problem with a track for days.

They will not get back to the main track by next weeks races. When Discreet Cat and Nobiz don't show up, you will look like a fool. I know you or Oracle or one of you guys used to work for NYRA. Stop defending them. In my opinion horses are dying because they are too cheap to take care of their tracks.

Sightseek · #20 11-18-2006, 01:42 PM

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I am an expert on knowing they didn't take care of the turf at belmont, and blamed a lack of money for the reason, and I am an expert on knowing that rain shouldn't cause a problem with a track for days.

They will not get back to the main track by next weeks races. When Discreet Cat and Nobiz don't show up, you will look like a fool. I know you or Oracle or one of you guys used to work for NYRA. Stop defending them. In my opinion horses are dying because they are too cheap to take care of their tracks.

Announced this morning that Discreet Cat is still a go, inner or outer track, they don't care.