explosions at boston marathon

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

He's in Federal custody (MA does not have the death penalty)and hasn't been marandized..His father is flying in from Russia and pleads to his son to tell all...

Far as I know, as long as he is willing to talk they dont have to mirandize him. Soon as he says lawyer, that's pretty much it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jocko699

Ok, that clears that up, sheesh.

Look, I'm in the middle of the Ozarks, on my phone. Go look it up, I don't have recourse to cite sources right now. Besides, I think this guy will give up everything he knows.

[jocko699]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Look, I'm in the middle of the Ozarks, on my phone. Go look it up, I don't have recourse to cite sources right now. Besides, I think this guy will give up everything he knows.

I am in the middle of the US and retired military. You go look up what answers we can get. Oops, forgot you can't get that info.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jocko699

I am in the middle of the US and retired military. You go look up what answers we can get. Oops, forgot you can't get that info.

I'm travelling. On hwy 5 in the middle of nowhere. Oh, and former military too. Thanks for your service.

[geeker2]

Zig I suggest you stop at the nearest bar and celebrate

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Look, I'm in the middle of the Ozarks, on my phone. Go look it up, I don't have recourse to cite sources right now. Besides, I think this guy will give up everything he knows.

are you heading out to see the Ozark Mountain Daredevils, Jackie Blue ?


Boston Police will have no problem making him talk. Hell they beat confessions out of innocent guys if the need arises. A guy who did it shouldn't be a problem

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Far as I know, as long as he is willing to talk they dont have to mirandize him. Soon as he says lawyer, that's pretty much it.

They arrested him and invoked some federal statute that allows bypassing Miranda...but not clear if they can use anything he says...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

They arrested him and invoked some federal statute that allows bypassing Miranda...but not clear if they can use anything he says...

sure they can. just ask the underwear bomber.

can you imagine, being referred to as the underwear bomber??



good idea, geeker!! so glad they got him. and not often that cops are heroes and get cheers and applause!

and bama......who?! tony and i bought 42 acres on bull shoals, so going up for the wknd

[Danzig]

i just hope that if anyone else was involved that they get them too. dont need loose ends that could cause problems down the road.

[PeteMugg]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

are you heading out to see the Ozark Mountain Daredevils, Jackie Blue ?


Boston Police will have no problem making him talk. Hell they beat confessions out of innocent guys if the need arises. A guy who did it shouldn't be a problem

OMD had so much good music, but I never understood the love for Jackie Blue.

[Alabama Stakes]

kind of that eerie sounding wa wa of the guitar made it such an FM fave. First time I heard a whole album I was blown away. Just another underrated tight band from the 70's

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...s_brother.html

[GenuineRisk]

This is a very brief history of Miranda v. Arizona:

http://crime.about.com/od/police/a/miranda_rights.htm

Essentially, the right to remain silent is not waived if Tsarnaev is not read the Miranda (a right exists independent of whether a person is aware of it); it just means in this case it would then be up to a judge to decide if any information he gave prior to him being informed of those rights covered in the Miranda is admissible in court (I think, but I am not a lawyer, that without the public safety clause being exercised, any information he gave prior to being read the Miranda would automatically not be admissible). The Miranda is just about making sure a suspect is aware of his or her right against self-incrimination.

But in this case it sounds like a non-issue. The public safety exception has a 48 hour limit, which will more than have expired by the time this kid is capable of speaking, and it sounds like there is so much other evidence against him that anything he says will not affect the prosecution's case anyway.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

This is a very brief history of Miranda v. Arizona:

http://crime.about.com/od/police/a/miranda_rights.htm

Essentially, the right to remain silent is not waived if Tsarnaev is not read the Miranda (a right exists independent of whether a person is aware of it); it just means in this case it would then be up to a judge to decide if any information he gave prior to him being informed of those rights covered in the Miranda is admissible in court (I think, but I am not a lawyer, that without the public safety clause being exercised, any information he gave prior to being read the Miranda would automatically not be admissible). The Miranda is just about making sure a suspect is aware of his or her right against self-incrimination.

But in this case it sounds like a non-issue. The public safety exception has a 48 hour limit, which will more than have expired by the time this kid is capable of speaking, and it sounds like there is so much other evidence against him that anything he says will not affect the prosecution's case anyway.

Here's something on Miranda in this case..

The Obama administration has announced that it will employ the little-used public-safety exception to question Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev without reading him his Miranda rights.

It’s an uncommon justification that the FBI explains dates back to September 11, 1980, and involves neutralizing remaining threats to public safety before “Mirandizing” a suspect.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/20/ho...#ixzz2R7mtEBqO

[Danzig]

i saw something about lindsey graham wanting to suspend the constitution in this guys case.

just like pryor said, you do not have to pass an iq test to be senator.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i saw something about lindsey graham wanting to suspend the constitution in this guys case.

just like pryor said, you do not have to pass an iq test to be senator.

Typical of that half a sissy from SC...Will i get darted for posting the stuff below?..

The reason Politicians try so
hard to get re-elected is that they
would 'hate' to have to try to make a
living under the laws they've passed.

and how true is this.

"I think Congressmen should wear uniforms,
you know, like NASCAR drivers, so we could
identify their corporate sponsors."

[Danzig]

read earlier that he has a throat wound, and cannot talk.mm


my husband said wouldnt it be something if they charged him for running over his brother. no honor among thieves.....or bombers it would seem.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

read earlier that he has a throat wound, and cannot talk.mm


my husband said wouldnt it be something if they charged him for running over his brother. no honor among thieves.....or bombers it would seem.

Yeah, throat and leg and can't talk...yet...heavily guarded of course...

[Danzig]

of course. keep him under watch, and make sure there are no jack ruby wannabes.

[Danzig]

just got home a bit ago from our weekend trip...unpacked, etc. just now saw an article that says the guy is answering questions in writing, that his throat wound may have been from a suicide attempt.

highlights of the weekend--friday night finding out they got the guy. saturday, got our sewage taken care of up there. today? saw an osprey overhead, beautiful bird (last time visited by a bald eagle).