fyi... You are no longer needed

[jms62]

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/06/the_..._middle_class/

[Rudeboyelvis]

The Tea Party was a terrific investment for them (Koch Industries). They bought it relatively cheaply, then just programmed their robots to do their bidding.


Well, no cannonballs did fly, no rifles cut us down
No bombs fell from the sky, no blood soaked the ground
No powder flash blinded the eye, no deathly thunder sounded
But just as sure as the hand of God, they brought death to my hometown


- Death to my Hometown~B. Springsteen

[dellinger63]

The super-rich rode on the same trains as us, and flew in the same planes as us. They went to our hospitals and learned at our schools.

I knew those super-rich people of yesteryear were lying about being educated overseas and when that crazy Kennedy sister allegedly got sent off to a private hospital it was really a State nut house.

Ever watch the movie Titanic?

Then again why let facts get in the way of the author's wandering, senseless rant?

Amazing people are still fighting to get into this country both legally and illegally.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I knew those super-rich people of yesteryear were lying about being educated overseas and when that crazy Kennedy sister allegedly got sent off to a private hospital it was really a State nut house.

Ever watch the movie Titanic?

Then again why let facts get in the way of the author's wandering, senseless rant?

Amazing people are still fighting to get into this country both legally and illegally.

Simply Unsustainable ... and in the end ... really Dangerous.

Forty Percent Of Workers Made Less Than $20,000 Last Year
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...e-income-data/

Economic musical chairs Del.. Glad you aren't affected.. Yet...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/06/the_..._middle_class/

good article.

and i've said it elsewhere....the rationale that convinces the working class to support tax cuts for the rich, on top of all the cuts they've already gotten, and defending them while attacking the poor, is the same mentality that had the poor whites fighting the southern rich man's civil war to keep slavery. there was no logic in it then, and there isn't logic in it now.
the rich don't give a damn about anyone else, and it amazes me that people who have far more in common, and are far closer economically to those below them, insist on supporting those in the stratosphere above them. i guess they think some day they'll be filthy stinking rich like the koch brothers.
no, the way this country is going, and the way business is going, most of us will end up far lower down the scale than further up.
sorry to burst your bubbles.

there's been a sea change in how things are done in this country. it used to about working for prosperity, for growth, for everyone achieving the american dream.
now it's a few rich bastards squeezing every dime they can out of the economy, while the pay scale for everyone else stagnates.
we are far more productive now then ever in the history of this country, while making less than ever.
welcome to animal farm; we're the animals, and the kochs and others of their ilk, and their political hacks are the pigs.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Simply Unsustainable ... and in the end ... really Dangerous.

Forty Percent Of Workers Made Less Than $20,000 Last Year
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...e-income-data/

Economic musical chairs Del.. Glad you aren't affected.. Yet...

and more than half made less than 30k. we're going in the wrong direction.


“When the average wage grows but the median wage stagnates, it means that, statistically, only workers in the top half of the job market are experiencing increases,” he writes.


most of the wage growth was for the top quarter of earners, or those who make about $50,000 and up. In fact, things are very good at the top. The number of workers making $5 million a year or more jumped by nearly 27 percent over 2011, and their total wages grew 40 percent, or 13 times the increase for all workers.

This income inequality has been growing since the 1970s, as the richest 20 percent of Americans saw their income grow much faster than the bottom 20 percent. But things have accelerated in the economic downturn. For the past three years, those at the top of the income ladder saw their incomes grow by 5 percent while everyone else’s income dropped.

[dellinger63]

Some handicappers blame themselves or chalk it up to circumstance when they bet wrongly and conversely others put blame on the sport itself being fixed.

You'll find the former will analyze what might have gone wrong in an attempt to prevent it from happening again while the latter will accept the sport is fixed and only change by playing names or numbers.

In life some will continually learn and try and better their life situation while others will accept life is fixed and rely on the lottery as their only chance for success.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Some handicappers blame themselves or chalk it up to circumstance when they bet wrongly and conversely others put blame on the sport itself being fixed.

You'll find the former will analyze what might have gone wrong in an attempt to prevent it from happening again while the latter will accept the sport is fixed and only change by playing names or numbers.

In life some will continually learn and try and better their life situation while others will accept life is fixed and rely on the lottery as their only chance for success.

Glad you are in the only depression proof business in the United States of America. Congrats. Just read the program and it says "Del Blinkers-On". I am doing very well now also but I would have to have my head up my ass till my shoulders to think that if the number of people with decent paying jobs keeps shrinking so will all my assets, stocks, houses, etc.... That is pretty fundamental.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

assets, stocks, houses, etc.... That is pretty fundamental.

Ignoring the stock market is at its all-time high. I now see the direct correlation.

Fundamental

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Ignoring the stock market is at its all-time high. I now see the direct correlation.

Fundamental

Since you obviously can't read a ****ing lick, let me steam up a windows and draw you a picture

I am doing very well now also but I would have to have my head up my ass till my shoulders to think that if the number of people with decent paying jobs keeps shrinking so will all my assets, stocks, houses, etc.... That is pretty fundamental.

What part of that future looking statement is too hard for you to understand? Also if you are basing your view of how things are based upon a FED Aided rally.. LOL, they can't keep pumping forever.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Glad you are in the only depression proof business in the United States of America. Congrats. Just read the program and it says "Del Blinkers-On". I am doing very well now also but I would have to have my head up my ass till my shoulders to think that if the number of people with decent paying jobs keeps shrinking so will all my assets, stocks, houses, etc.... That is pretty fundamental.

yeah, most business is dependent on people being able to buy. people lose buying power, companies lose sales.
it's too bad that people think they are an island, and that they aren't ever buffeted by other peoples' misfortune.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, most business is dependent on people being able to buy. people lose buying power, companies lose sales.
it's too bad that people think they are an island, and that they aren't ever buffeted by other peoples' misfortune.

You don't have to be a Stanford Grad to understand that concept, right?

[Danzig]

well, god, i hope not.

businesses bemoan lack of sales. gee, i wonder if it's because workers don't have money to buy?

nah...that can't be it.

we work harder than ever. and make less than ever before. now, who benefits? not the workers, that's for damn sure.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

we work harder than ever. .

And we're working so hard we're going to let a bunch of illegals into the mix to relieve our lazy asses!

WE'RE fatter than ever but certainly far from working harder than ever.

[TheSpyder]

So here I go.

You guys are missing the point because you're looking at the fire from on top of it. Back away 30 -40 years and it come down to balance of power.

Not the right and left.

Not the three pillars of our government...that work so well.

But rather manufacturing versus retailers.

Somewhere along the way "consumption" became the new American sport, and the retailers more than the manufacturing base, that brought us to the party, by the way, gained power at every level and took over trade policy.

Simple as that.....

It's not the rich, it's our government.

And the middle class, it's moved to China. And they are overweight.

Here, we'll forge a new course. Because we're Americans and I seriously believe we'll find a way to get ahead. Thanks to the NSA we know what everyone is saying.

Just saying,

Spyder from SC

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

So here I go.

You guys are missing the point because you're looking at the fire from on top of it. Back away 30 -40 years and it come down to balance of power.

Not the right and left.

Not the three pillars of our government...that work so well.

But rather manufacturing versus retailers.

Somewhere along the way "consumption" became the new American sport, and the retailers more than the manufacturing base, that brought us to the party, by the way, gained power at every level and took over trade policy.

Simple as that.....

It's not the rich, it's our government.

And the middle class, it's moved to China. And they are overweight.

Here, we'll forge a new course. Because we're Americans and I seriously believe we'll find a way to get ahead. Thanks to the NSA we know what everyone is saying.

Just saying,

Spyder from SC

WTF would you know you don't work for a living!














I laughed my friend !

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

So here I go.

You guys are missing the point because you're looking at the fire from on top of it. Back away 30 -40 years and it come down to balance of power.

Not the right and left.

Not the three pillars of our government...that work so well.

But rather manufacturing versus retailers.

Somewhere along the way "consumption" became the new American sport, and the retailers more than the manufacturing base, that brought us to the party, by the way, gained power at every level and took over trade policy.

Simple as that.....

It's not the rich, it's our government.

And the middle class, it's moved to China. And they are overweight.

Here, we'll forge a new course. Because we're Americans and I seriously believe we'll find a way to get ahead. Thanks to the NSA we know what everyone is saying.

Just saying,

Spyder from SC

it's not the rich, it's our govt? er, the rich own and control the govt. legislation and regulations, all at the behest of big business.
note the regs removed that allowed the banking meltdown. some people made a ton of money with all that.
the health care law, written by health insurers.
corporate welfare is double the welfare paid out to people, with even the koch bros receiving subsidies. exxon/mobil, with record profits, receives subsidies.
corporate tax breaks, offshore accounts, etc. the rich pay good money for the laws to help them get richer. and the pols get rich too

[jms62]

^^^ She nailed it.

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by jms62

^^^ She nailed it.

square on the head

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Ignoring the stock market is at its all-time high. I now see the direct correlation.

Fundamental

Since you think the Stock Market = Economy then you'll have no problem giving credit.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...et-tested.html