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Old 03-05-2014, 02:55 PM
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Default 3/8 (TAM): Tampa Bay Derby (G2), Florida Oaks, Hillsborough (G3's)

9th (4:25) Hillsborough S. (G3)

About 1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Donna's Fly Girl Allen M 116 L
2 Waterway Run Lezcano J 120 L
3 Gulsary (IRE) Castellano J J 116 L
4 Cloud Scapes Rodriguez E D 120 L
5 Thecushmaker Pedroza B 116 L
6 Riposte (GB) Leparoux J R 122
7 E B Ryder Allen R D Jr 116 L
MTO Liberated Boulanger G 116 L
9 Enchanted Party Serpa A 116 L



10th (4:55) Florida Oaks (G3)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Kitten Kaboodle Castellano J J 122 L
2 Interrupted Serpa A 116 L
3 Babe's Ruler Centeno D E 116 L
4 Jerry Love Leparoux J R 116 Blk-On L
5 Spangled Banner De La Cruz F 116
6 Runway Giant Allen R D Jr 116 L
7 Annulment Boulanger G 116 L
8 Duff One Wilson E 116 L
9 Istanford Rocco J S Jr 116 L
10 Miss Besilu Bridgmohan S X 116 L
11 Ready's Legend Prado E S 116 L
12 Testa Rossi (FR) Lezcano J 122 L
AE Resistivity Leparoux J R 116 L
AE Grand Elmendorf Gallardo A A 116 L



11th (5:25) Tampa Bay Derby (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $350,000

1 Ring Weekend Centeno D E 116 L
2 Surfing U S A Lezcano J 116 L
3 Matador Leparoux J R 116 L
4 Coltimus Prime Boulanger G 116 L
5 Conquest Titan Bridgmohan S X 116 L
6 Vinceremos Prado E S 120 L
7 East Hall Leyva J C 116 L
8 Cousin Stephen Castellano J J 116 L
9 Hy Kodiak Warrior Saez G 116 FTL
10 Tuscan Getaway Rocco J S Jr 116 L
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Old 03-05-2014, 05:56 PM
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Plus the long awaited return of Bobbys Kitten, race 6. Allowance race w/ Castellano riding.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:11 PM
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Amazingly coincidental that my first Saturday off from work in 3 months coincides with this card. Didn't see that coming
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:23 PM
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Plus the long awaited return of Bobbys Kitten, race 6. Allowance race w/ Castellano riding.
Just now getting a chance to look at the pp's. He has legit competition in this race. Global View can run.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:18 PM
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11th (5:25) Tampa Bay Derby (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $350,000

1 Ring Weekend Centeno D E 116 L
2 Surfing U S A Lezcano J 116 L
3 Matador Leparoux J R 116 L
4 Coltimus Prime Boulanger G 116 L
5 Conquest Titan Bridgmohan S X 116 L
6 Vinceremos Prado E S 120 L
7 East Hall Leyva J C 116 L
8 Cousin Stephen Castellano J J 116 L
9 Hy Kodiak Warrior Saez G 116 FTL
10 Tuscan Getaway Rocco J S Jr 116 L
After one pass through the PP's, this looks like a nice betting race.
And at first glance, I'm kind of interested in Hy Kodiak Warrior.
Especially since I don't think anyone coming out of the Sam Davis is going to win this.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:53 PM
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The old version of Conquest Titan would have a very favorable scenario here, as there aren't any dominant early speed horses. I'm wondering if they use a bit of his old speed just for this spot.
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:31 AM
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The old version of Conquest Titan would have a very favorable scenario here, as there aren't any dominant early speed horses. I'm wondering if they use a bit of his old speed just for this spot.
Don't Surfin USA, Coltimus Prime and Tuscan Getaway have early speed?
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Old 03-06-2014, 12:50 AM
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Don't Surfin USA, Coltimus Prime and Tuscan Getaway have early speed?
I'm not too sure about Coltimus Prime's dirt speed, as the BRIS early paces figure for his synthetic races are just average. Maybe I'd expect the other two you mentioned to be dueling for the lead, if there is a duel, and maybe Cousin Stephen and Vinceremos.

The BRIS early pace figures for Conquest Titan's two dirt races before they switched styles are over 100. Right now, the best last race E1 early pace figure on BRIS is from Cousin Stephen at 93.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:04 AM
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I'm not too sure about Coltimus Prime's dirt speed, as the BRIS early paces figure for his synthetic races are just average. Maybe I'd expect the other two you mentioned to be dueling for the lead, if there is a duel, and maybe Cousin Stephen and Vinceremos.

The BRIS early pace figures for Conquest Titan's two dirt races before they switched styles are over 100. Right now, the best last race E1 early pace figure on BRIS is from Cousin Stephen at 93.
I can't see them messing with Conquest Titan's running style for this race.
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Old 03-06-2014, 09:13 AM
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BRIS DERBY PP'S: http://www.brisnet.com/brisnet_promo...paBayDerby.pdf
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I think there's plenty of early speed in this race which sets up perfect for Conquest Titan (not going out on a limb), but I think Ring Weekend might be sitting on a big one as well. This race isn't that strong, so I don't think he's in over his head.
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Old 03-07-2014, 05:58 AM
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I have a very high opinion of Conquest Titan. Think he'll be better at 1/8th to 1/4, but also think it was a wise move by Casse getting to Tampa. Kind of wish I didn't like him so much because this looks like a race where getting creative could get you paid. Vinceremos is a very horse to me. At face value I want to think he is a huge bet against...can't help but worry that he might just put it all together though. I kind of make this one Surfing USA or Conquest Titan depending on the pace scenario with East Hall and Hy Kodiak Cowboy the prices I give a bit of a shot.
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Old 03-07-2014, 07:26 AM
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Interrupted in the Oaks.
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Old 03-07-2014, 08:30 AM
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Really excited about seeing two or three of these horses in the Kentucky Derby.
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:05 AM
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Amazingly coincidental that my first Saturday off from work in 3 months coincides with this card. Didn't see that coming
That's great.enjoy your day off N have fun ,only in America.
Who do u like in the card@ TB
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:40 AM
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Interrupted in the Oaks.
This has all the makings of a trap race in the sequence... Testa Rossi is going to go off at 4-5 or worse and is no lock at all; Miss Bessilu will be 5-2 and not much better...I'm not thin here - obviously either can and should win, but I like a couple others in here and expect to be 4-5 deep in this leg
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:45 AM
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11th (5:25) Tampa Bay Derby (G2)

10 Tuscan Getaway Rocco J S Jr 116 L
Hope he does well...
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Old 03-07-2014, 07:27 PM
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The PPs for #7 East Hall show lifetime 2 wins, shows breaking maiden last Oct, and no wins since then. I need a little help with this, thanks
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Old 03-07-2014, 07:31 PM
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he had a second win via dq ( of Hy Kodiak Warrior )
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Old 03-07-2014, 07:38 PM
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Thanks herkhorse , just saw that in the fine print of both horses running lines
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