Derby Trail/Triple Crown Notebook

[FATPIANO]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Think he was terrific in the Gotham and ideally will be tighter here. Having the other speed in Albano on his right and blinkered Rise Up to his left almost assures that the three hook up from the bell. Vicar's in Trouble the beneficiary of draw this time around as he can set up shop behind the three speeds.

Feels like this is going to be honestly run and In Trouble will have to prove at least a little special to withstand early running and have something for several stages of challenger later.

Well I finally decided to add In Trouble and I am hoping he romps today

[tanner12oz]

Thanks Steve was just looking for the update...did you forget commanding curve?

[tanner12oz]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Undoubtedly.. Time stands still when it comes to those late noms.

I saw a list earlier today that had him as not nominated?

[Kasept]

Kentucky Derby 2014 point standings (3/29)

Leader board for qualifying points to the 2014 Kentucky Derby, which will be run at Churchill Downs in Louisville, Ky., on Saturday, May 3, 2014. Points are earned by the top four finishers in designated Kentucky Derby prep races. Earnings in non-restricted stakes races serve as a tie-breaker.

1 Vicar's in Trouble Mike Maker 120 $760,000
2 Toast of New York Jamie Osborne 100 $1,200,000
3 Constitution Todd Pletcher 100 $600,000
4 Intense Holiday Todd Pletcher 93 $527,500
5 Wildcat Red Jose Garrofalo 90 $665,500
6 We Miss Artie Todd Pletcher 60 $544,000
7 Samraat Rick Violette Jr. 60 $450,500
8 Hoppertunity Bob Baffert 55 $376,000
9 Chitu Bob Baffert 54 $440,000
10 Midnight Hawk Bob Baffert 52 $320,500

11 Ring Weekend H. Graham Motion 50 $210,000
12 California Chrome Art Sherman 50 $182,250
13 Tapiture Steve Asmussen 42 $420,738
14 General a Rod Mike Maker 40 $240,000
15 Albano Larry Jones 34 $190,000
16 Cairo Prince Kiaran McLaughlin 24 $520,000
17 Uncle Sigh Gary Contessa 24 $150,000
18 Vinceremos Todd Pletcher 20 $190,000
19 Harry's Holiday Mike Maker 20 $150,956
20 Commanding Curve Dallas Stewart 20 $140,000
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21 Ride on Curlin Billy Gowan 15 $154,387
22 Kristo John Sadler 14 $56,000
23 Coastline Mark Casse 13 $129,679
24 Tamarando Jerry Holldendorfer 12 $495,000
25 Strong Mandate D. Wayne Lukas 11 $472,500
26 Rise Up Tom Amoss 10 $786,633
27 Giovanni Boldini Aidan O'Brien 10 $345,676
28 Candy Boy John Sadler 10 $260,000
29 In Trouble Tony Dutrow 10 $190,000
30 Noble Moon Leah Gyarmati 10 $145,000

31 Ami's Holiday Josie Carroll 10 $136,145
32 Tanzanite Cat Cody Autrey 10 $111,000
33 Commissioner Todd Pletcher 10 $104,000
34 Cleburne Dale Romans 10 $102,044
35 Conquest Titan Mark Casse 9 $180,495
36 Dance With Fate Peter Eurton 8 $150,000
37 Casiguapo Mario Morales 5 $271,050
38 Financial Mogul Rick Violette, Jr 5 $93,000
39 East Hall Bill Kaplan 5 $77,550
40 Classic Giacnroll Lisa Guerrero 5 $62,500

41 Asserting Bear Reade Baker 5 $31,432
42 Schoolofhardknocks David Hofmans 5 $18,000
43 Scotland Tony Dutrow 4 $45,000
44 Big Bazinga Katerina Vassilieva 4 $44,469
45 Laddie Boy Chuck Peery 4 $42,599
46 Smart Cover Dale Romans 4 $38,418
47 Enterprising Tom Proctor 2 $91,100
48 Arctic Slope Ken McPeek 2 $47,572
49 Wicked Strong Jimmy Jerkens 2 $40,000
50 Gold Hawk Steve Asmussen 2 $3,000

51 Awesome Sky Mark Casse 2 $16,819
52 Diamond Bachelor Patrick Biancone 1 $92,000
53 Rum Point Doug O'Neill 1 $30,250
54 Almost Famous Patrick Byrne 1 $28,579
55 Matuszak Bill Mott 1 $22,667
56 Son of a Preacher Bret Calhoun 1 $11,500
57 Buck Magic Dave Fawkes 1 $8,410
58 I'll Wrap It Up Doug O'Neill 1 $6,000

[pmayjr]

ummm... Vicar isn't in trouble, but Cairo Prince is. I thought without looking at the standings he'd eek in... He's f'd with all those horse yet to run the next 2 weekends. Would have to take some big flops and defections on top of it.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

ummm... Vicar isn't in trouble, but Cairo Prince is. I thought without looking at the standings he'd eek in... He's f'd with all those horse yet to run the next 2 weekends. Would have to take some big flops and defections on top of it.

These are fragile horses. I have to think a couple of them get injured (not that I wish that).

[dylbert]

Originally Posted by FATPIANO

Steve

Do you know where Rise Up is heading?

thanks

after Louisiana Derby disaster, an Evangeline Downs allowance race...

[Kasept]

Tonalist NO go for Wood.. Possible lung infection.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Bayern to the Ark Derby
Hoppetunity to the SA Derby
per Steve Andersen - DRF

Rosario will ride Tapiture in the Ark Derby, abandons Strong Mandate
per Jay Privman - DRF

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Tonalist NO go for Wood.. Possible lung infection.

Too bad, as I thought he might be an interesting player in the Wood.
Not sure how long it will take to clear up the lung infection (he's nominated to the Bluegrass too), but it never felt like these connections had Derby fever with Tonalist anyway.
Probably not a bad idea to continue taking their time with him.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Rosario will ride Tapiture in the Ark Derby, abandons Strong Mandate
per Jay Privman - DRF

I know Rosario is the best and all, but that sucks for Santana who's done nothing wrong on this horse.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

I know Rosario is the best and all, but that sucks for Santana who's done nothing wrong on this horse.

Separation from the things said in the PETA video.

[Kasept]

10 confirmed now for Wood Memorial..

Effinex (D. Smith/R. Montanez)
Harpoon (T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez)
Kristo (J. Sadler/M. Garcia)
Los Borrachos (B. Mott/C. Velasquez)
Noble Moon (L. Gyarmati/I. Ortiz Jr.)
Samraat (R. Violette/J. Ortiz)
Schivarelli (E. Kenneally/J. Castellano)
Social Inclusion (M. Azpurua/L. Contreras)
Uncle Sigh (G. Contessa/C. Nakatani)
Wicked Strong (J. Jerkens/R. Maragh)

[Kasept]

Looks like 8 for Santa Anita Derby..

Candy Boy (Sadler)
California Chrome (Sherman)
Schoolofhardrocks (Hofmans)
Hoppertunity (Baffert)
The Admiral (Baffert)
Big Tire (Glatt)
Dublin Up (P. Miller)
Friendswith K Mill (O'Neill)
Rprettyboyfloyd (Breuer)

[RockHardTen1985]

I know its not a derby trail race, but is Sadler running Kobe's Back in the Bayshore?
Thanks Steve...

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I know its not a derby trail race, but is Sadler running Kobe's Back in the Bayshore?
Thanks Steve...

Yes.. Made the trip with Kristo.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Yes.. Made the trip with Kristo.

Anyone have Sadler's stats shipping horses outside of California the last few years. Seems like they always run poorly.

Last horse I remember him winning with was Line of Davis in the AK Derby, but assume there may have been one or two others since then.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Separation from the things said in the PETA video.

Santana is a nice everyday jock, but if you have a chance to get Rosario, which possibly came with a Derby commitment, there's no question what you do.

[Alan07]

In all seriousness I think they were going to make a switch anyways, even if they couldn't get Rosario.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

Anyone have Sadler's stats shipping horses outside of California the last few years. Seems like they always run poorly.

Last horse I remember him winning with was Line of Davis in the AK Derby, but assume there may have been one or two others since then.

I was asking because Im excited to bet against him.....