Obama - "I will not apologize for the Bergdahl swap"

[Rudeboyelvis]

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/05/po...gdahl-release/

I don't know why he would, he never apologized to the families of the victims of the Bengazi fiasco, or the gulf coast BP oil spill victims for waiting 53 days to involve the Coast Guard and investigate the Mineral and Mine safety division of the Dept. of the Interior, or the taxpayers for pissing away trillions in stimulus money on larks (cash for clunkers, bankrupt solar panel companies, bankrupt electric car battery companies, etc.) rather than rebuilding our infrastructure like the platform he ran on, or the world economy for not holding anyone accountable for the banking collapse.

In fact the only thing he's done successfully and consistently for 6 years is avoid blame.


This whole thing makes absolutely no sense. There has got to be a covert angle where someone's cover was blown or something.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/05/po...gdahl-release/

I don't know why he would, he never apologized to the families of the victims of the Bengazi fiasco, or the gulf coast BP oil spill victims for waiting 53 days to involve the Coast Guard and investigate the Mineral and Mine safety division of the Dept. of the Interior, or the taxpayers for pissing away trillions in stimulus money on larks (cash for clunkers, bankrupt solar panel companies, bankrupt electric car battery companies, etc.) rather than rebuilding our infrastructure like the platform he ran on, or the world economy for not holding anyone accountable for the banking collapse.

In fact the only thing he's done successfully and consistently for 6 years is avoid blame.


This whole thing makes absolutely no sense. There has got to be a covert angle where someone's cover was blown or something.

That's the first thing that came to mind. Something amiss here, no doubt.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GPK

That's the first thing that came to mind. Something amiss here, no doubt.

I had read somewhere that there was information about who was going with Obama when he did his surprise visit to Bagram over Memorial day weekend. Speculation was that a high ranking CIA officer was on the list, but should not have been disclosed.
Now how that all ties back into letting 5 of the most heinous terrorists we've ever captured, just "go home" is one for the ages - but perhaps they had this kid embedded as a spy and his story didn't jive with the report - Al Queda in turn threatens to release the blown cover by publicly killing him unless we give up these 5, which, in turn he gets released.
Obama spins it as a win-win, when actually it was a coverup of a clusterfuc<1.

Pure speculation, but this is one f'ed up situation all around.

[GenuineRisk]

Once Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld apologize for Iraq, I'll start fretting about this. But nothing in Obama's Presidency will possibly approach that bone-headed cluster*ck of C-plus Augustus' ego trip that killed thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, exploded our debt, siphoned billions into the pockets of their friends and was just generally the single worst foreign policy decision since god knows when.

And yet they get a bye for that while Obama gets pilloried for cash for clunkers. Jesus wept.

[Danzig]

that's a really interesting theory, rudeboy.
and of course they won't say if that's what happened.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Once Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld apologize for Iraq, I'll start fretting about this. But nothing in Obama's Presidency will possibly approach that bone-headed cluster*ck of C-plus Augustus' ego trip that killed thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, exploded our debt, siphoned billions into the pockets of their friends and was just generally the single worst foreign policy decision since god knows when.

And yet they get a bye for that while Obama gets pilloried for cash for clunkers. Jesus wept.

That's the spirit. Congratulations on completely missing the point.

No one defended Bush nor Cheney nor Rumsfeld; in fact all three should be hung for treason. No idea what that has to do with the current administration, or the 16 trillion dollars worth of boondoggles at ever turn, but good for you.

We get it - you are on Team Blue. So you get to ignore the egregious actions of your Team Bluetard leader, Because Team Redtard's guy was way worse in your eyes. Of course, Team Bluetard's guy was supposed to be the antithesis of Team Redtard's guy but, alas, is exactly the same. No matter, he's on Team Blue and not Team Red. That is all that matters.

[Pants II]

Well...but Bush...

Oh wait...already used.


Ermm...racist!

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that's a really interesting theory, rudeboy.
and of course they won't say if that's what happened.

Perhaps I've seen too many episodes of Homeland and 24

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Perhaps I've seen too many episodes of Homeland and 24

no, i really think you might have a plausible reason for it.

obama went over, there was a cover blown, and then this guy comes home.
coincidence? maybe.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Once Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld apologize for Iraq, I'll start fretting about this. But nothing in Obama's Presidency will possibly approach that bone-headed cluster*ck of C-plus Augustus' ego trip that killed thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, exploded our debt, siphoned billions into the pockets of their friends and was just generally the single worst foreign policy decision since god knows when.

And yet they get a bye for that while Obama gets pilloried for cash for clunkers. Jesus wept.

the previous administration absolutely sucked.
so does this one.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the previous administration absolutely sucked.
so does this one.

1. And So will the next one.
2 Go to Step 1

[declansharbor]

I find it impossible to believe that our gov't didn't drug the released Taliban members and place tracking devices inside of them before we released them. Gov't had the full story before they made the decision, there's just no way they could trade 5 ranking members for a possible deserter. Or so I hope.

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the previous administration absolutely sucked.
so does this one.

You know i am having a frustrating week on a personal situation in my life and and will not waste too much time on threads like this one. BUT since i am already pissed off i have a couple of thoughts! The previous administration, were fuking liars and war mongering war criminals, who should have been behind bars years ago! But, out of respect for the office of the Presidency and not wanting to set a precedent of one administration going after another one this President chose not to pursue charges against his predecessor. I do not like that, i do not agree with that but i damn sure understand and respect that. The previous administration drove this country to the brink of financial ruin! This administration has taken bold steps to pull this country out of that mammoth crater! President Obama has accomplished a ton, in the face of the single largest, racist, anti-American, disgusting, vile and stone walling opposition in the history of the White House, period! Anyone, who doesn't believe that must have been living under a rock, blindfolded, with tape over their ears oh and are entitled to have MORONIC OPINIONS, it's a free country, but that is what they are MORONIC OPINIONS!
In terms of this prisoner swap, if what has been reported in terms of a proof of life video that showed this kid to be in poor health i am sure this is what moved the President to act so quickly to bring this kid home. Let them investigate when the kid is healthy, and if he's a deserter or traitor i am sure appropriate charges will be filed at a later date. In my opinion anyone of these right wing SCUMBAGS calling for this President to be impeached for bringing home an American POW is once again of a moronic opinion! Speaking of TRAITORS AND MORONS, i think the absolute LAST PERSON we need weighing in on this situation is OLLIE FUKING NORTH! BUT he has, this CONVICTED TRAITOR has got some SACK going on FIXED NEWS and opening his pie hole about this prisoner exchange, when he should be rotting himself in prison to this day and beyond!
This concludes my rant, i am going to take a BP pill now try to calm down and go back to capping! Nothing personal Ms. Danzig ya just caught me at a very bad time. Please continue amongst yourselves!

[jms62]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

I find it impossible to believe that our gov't didn't drug the released Taliban members and place tracking devices inside of them before we released them. Gov't had the full story before they made the decision, there's just no way they could trade 5 ranking members for a possible deserter. Or so I hope.

Exactly..... Either tracking devices or Obama put Doug Whaley in charge of prisoner trades...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

1. And So will the next one.
2 Go to Step 1

until some changes are made and the two big parties get knocked down a few pegs, i'm afraid you're right.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

You know i am having a frustrating week on a personal situation in my life and and will not waste too much time on threads like this one. BUT since i am already pissed off i have a couple of thoughts! The previous administration, were fuking liars and war mongering war criminals, who should have been behind bars years ago! But, out of respect for the office of the Presidency and not wanting to set a precedent of one administration going after another one this President chose not to pursue charges against his predecessor. I do not like that, i do not agree with that but i damn sure understand and respect that. The previous administration drove this country to the brink of financial ruin! This administration has taken bold steps to pull this country out of that mammoth crater! President Obama has accomplished a ton, in the face of the single largest, racist, anti-American, disgusting, vile and stone walling opposition in the history of the White House, period! Anyone, who doesn't believe that must have been living under a rock, blindfolded, with tape over their ears oh and are entitled to have MORONIC OPINIONS, it's a free country, but that is what they are MORONIC OPINIONS!
In terms of this prisoner swap, if what has been reported in terms of a proof of life video that showed this kid to be in poor health i am sure this is what moved the President to act so quickly to bring this kid home. Let them investigate when the kid is healthy, and if he's a deserter or traitor i am sure appropriate charges will be filed at a later date. In my opinion anyone of these right wing SCUMBAGS calling for this President to be impeached for bringing home an American POW is once again of a moronic opinion! Speaking of TRAITORS AND MORONS, i think the absolute LAST PERSON we need weighing in on this situation is OLLIE FUKING NORTH! BUT he has, this CONVICTED TRAITOR has got some SACK going on FIXED NEWS and opening his pie hole about this prisoner exchange, when he should be rotting himself in prison to this day and beyond!
This concludes my rant, i am going to take a BP pill now try to calm down and go back to capping! Nothing person Ms. Danzig ya just caught me at a very bad time. Please continue amongst yourselves!

agree with much of that.
and yes, obama has had opposition...but for the most part, things haven't changed since he took over. nor did i expect it to. as for the wars, drone strikes have stepped up, you have the nsa scandal, the patriot act being continued. obama has pretty much continued what was already started by the previous admin.
and i agree, talk of impeaching obama is ridiculous. it won't go anywhere.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

I find it impossible to believe that our gov't didn't drug the released Taliban members and place tracking devices inside of them before we released them. Gov't had the full story before they made the decision, there's just no way they could trade 5 ranking members for a possible deserter. Or so I hope.

That's obvious to even the Taliban - they will never, ever get near anything resembling an operation again. These 5 will, however, be celebrated as Islamic heroes; a clear cut example of how powerful Allah's grace can be - stand strong in your convictions; for Allah will mesmerize the Western Devil into doing his bidding should you stay strong to Al Queda's message...yada yada yada.

It's a fuc1<ing nightmare to anyone who is still stuck there with this fraud-in-chief in charge

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

You know i am having a frustrating week on a personal situation in my life and and will not waste too much time on threads like this one. BUT since i am already pissed off i have a couple of thoughts! The previous administration, were fuking liars and war mongering war criminals, who should have been behind bars years ago! But, out of respect for the office of the Presidency and not wanting to set a precedent of one administration going after another one this President chose not to pursue charges against his predecessor. I do not like that, i do not agree with that but i damn sure understand and respect that. The previous administration drove this country to the brink of financial ruin! This administration has taken bold steps to pull this country out of that mammoth crater! President Obama has accomplished a ton, in the face of the single largest, racist, anti-American, disgusting, vile and stone walling opposition in the history of the White House, period! Anyone, who doesn't believe that must have been living under a rock, blindfolded, with tape over their ears oh and are entitled to have MORONIC OPINIONS, it's a free country, but that is what they are MORONIC OPINIONS!
In terms of this prisoner swap, if what has been reported in terms of a proof of life video that showed this kid to be in poor health i am sure this is what moved the President to act so quickly to bring this kid home. Let them investigate when the kid is healthy, and if he's a deserter or traitor i am sure appropriate charges will be filed at a later date. In my opinion anyone of these right wing SCUMBAGS calling for this President to be impeached for bringing home an American POW is once again of a moronic opinion! Speaking of TRAITORS AND MORONS, i think the absolute LAST PERSON we need weighing in on this situation is OLLIE FUKING NORTH! BUT he has, this CONVICTED TRAITOR has got some SACK going on FIXED NEWS and opening his pie hole about this prisoner exchange, when he should be rotting himself in prison to this day and beyond!
This concludes my rant, i am going to take a BP pill now try to calm down and go back to capping! Nothing person Ms. Danzig ya just caught me at a very bad time. Please continue amongst yourselves!

..Post of the year award...

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Once Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld apologize for Iraq, I'll start fretting about this. But nothing in Obama's Presidency will possibly approach that bone-headed cluster*ck of C-plus Augustus' ego trip that killed thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, exploded our debt, siphoned billions into the pockets of their friends and was just generally the single worst foreign policy decision since god knows when.

And yet they get a bye for that while Obama gets pilloried for cash for clunkers. Jesus wept.

This is the exact type of view that will keep the American people from taking back the power and demanding more than the status quo.

"Your guy was bad so it doesn't matter that my guy is just as bad".

It's always a race or competition on who is right, instead of what is right. This isn't a football game or horse race, people!

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by bigrun

..Post of the year award...

.....NOT!!

I have a disdain for all politicians, but the politics of this president suggests his next move may be to send the troops after........AMERICANS. And not referring to rescuing POWs either.

I'm not sure how kowtowing to Islamic fundamentalist, bootlicking American killers, and bargaining with terrorists benefits Americans----the people who as an elected official he has sworn to serve and protect the interests of.