Presidency "over" -- all but the shouting

[joeydb]

http://washingtonexaminer.com/about-...rticle/2549878

Excerpt:

"This poll is a disaster for the president," Todd said. "You look at the presidency here: Lowest job rating, tied for the lowest; lowest on foreign policy. His administration is seen as less competent than the Bush administration, post-Katrina."

"On the issue of do you believe he can still lead? A majority believe no. Essentially the public is saying your presidency is over," Todd added.

[Danzig]

so, is he resigning and biden taking office?

[hi_im_god]

You're missing the point.

Someone JDB had never previously heard of agreed with him.

It was TOTALLY worth a new thread.

[GenuineRisk]

Worth a new thread, but clearly too much work to go to the original source (it was an NBC/WSJ poll). WSJ is behind a paywall, but the headline says:

"Poll Shows Erosion in President's Support
Only 37% Back Obama's Handling of Foreign Policy, but Respondents Side With Him on Climate Change and Education"

Oh... Respondents side with him on some things... that's not nearly as dramatic as the Examiner's headline!

And, the highlight from the NBC article on their poll:

"Yet while Obama is unpopular in the poll, he looks like the homecoming king compared with the Republican Party."

NBC article on the poll:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/firs...ithout-n133461

[GenuineRisk]

For some perspective, here's a Gallup page with a look at the approval ratings of the post WW2 Presidents, averaged together, first term vs. second term, highs, lows and as a graph. It's fun trivia:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116677/Pr...-Trends.aspx#1

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

"Poll Shows Erosion in President's Support
Only 37% Back Obama's Handling of Foreign Policy, but Respondents Side With Him on Climate Change and Education"
Oh... Respondents side with him on some things

Yes; most people agree with educating children, and that Climate Change is real.

It's quite a stretch to claim some sort of pathetic victory on.



{JUST IN} The number of Respondents siding with him on "the sky being blue" are of the charts! Alert John Stewart! Fire up the spin machine!


For the record, Romney would be exactly the same. But you know that.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Yes; most people agree with educating children, and that Climate Change is real.

It's quite a stretch to claim some sort of pathetic victory on.



{JUST IN} The number of Respondents siding with him on "the sky being blue" are of the charts! Alert John Stewart! Fire up the spin machine!


For the record, Romney would be exactly the same. But you know that.

I'm pointing out that the survey hardly shows what the Examiner claims; it's just a typical survey with not unusual polling numbers for this point in a two-term President's administration.

And actually, no, Americans have been remarkably resistant to accepting the reality of Climate Change:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/167960/am...aggerated.aspx

Which is bad and continues to be bad. If this were Game of Thrones, Iraq/Bengazi/etc. is the War of the Five Kings while Climate Change is the White Walkers bearing down on all of Westeros. We have no sense of what our actual serious problems are.

[Rudeboyelvis]

So the complete and abject failures of this administration to govern the nation in a positive manner are because other 2 term presidents lost favor with the public in their 2nd term?

That's akin to explaining away the Titanic disaster by referencing the fact that "all maiden voyages have some hiccups"

He has not made one competent decision when it mattered - he has repeatedly sat on his hands and waited to react to situations when they have already escalated to the point of disrepair. Except of course when he is bypassing the Constitution to pass laws...errr...executive orders...by himself in the middle of the night (NDAA) or releasing Terrorists back to their homeland without consent of Congress.

There is a 6 1/2 year track record that documents this to anyone not wearing blue-tinted glasses.

I'm not sure how one can continue to defend the indefensible. Oh wait, blame "Dumbya" for this meteoric decline in popularity...that always works... well, at least it works for Jon Stewart.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Worth a new thread, but clearly too much work to go to the original source (it was an NBC/WSJ poll). WSJ is behind a paywall, but the headline says:

"Poll Shows Erosion in President's Support
Only 37% Back Obama's Handling of Foreign Policy, but Respondents Side With Him on Climate Change and Education"

Oh... Respondents side with him on some things... that's not nearly as dramatic as the Examiner's headline!

And, the highlight from the NBC article on their poll:

"Yet while Obama is unpopular in the poll, he looks like the homecoming king compared with the Republican Party."

NBC article on the poll:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/firs...ithout-n133461

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

So the complete and abject failures of this administration to govern the nation in a positive manner are because other 2 term presidents lost favor with the public in their 2nd term?

That's akin to explaining away the Titanic disaster by referencing the fact that "all maiden voyages have some hiccups"

He has not made one competent decision when it mattered - he has repeatedly sat on his hands and waited to react to situations when they have already escalated to the point of disrepair. Except of course when he is bypassing the Constitution to pass laws...errr...executive orders...by himself in the middle of the night (NDAA) or releasing Terrorists back to their homeland without consent of Congress.

There is a 6 1/2 year track record that documents this to anyone not wearing blue-tinted glasses.

Well stated.

[bigrun]

Over the weekend Darth raised his ugly head to warn us of an upcoming disaster bigger than 911...if Obama doesn't do something..guess he means invade Iraq..again...and monday nite he was featured on Stewart's show

Great cartoon

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Great cartoon

Regarding the cartoon - what an utterly despicable and deranged thing it is turning a 35 year old mother, daughter, and sister who spent the final moments of her life hopelessly fighting off a lunatic with a blade as he stabbed her repeatedly in the neck, into a punch line.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Regarding the cartoon - what an utterly despicable and deranged thing it is turning a 35 year old mother, daughter, and sister who spent the final moments of her life hopelessly fighting off a lunatic with a blade as he stabbed her repeatedly in the neck, into a punch line.

I'm glad someone said this. Agreed. Truly disgusting.

Listen, I get how people detest the previous administration, I've said it before that they all should be brought up on treason charges and at least tried.

To continually live in the past, offering no solutions and incessantly blaming what happened 10 years ago is pathetic and borderline pathological.

But to take the leap where you make a sick, vile joke - the punch line of which is a savage, brutal murder against a surprised, unarmed, woman (and young man) who had no ability to defend themselves is incomprehensible.

If your hatred of Dick Chaney is still so much a part of your everyday life that this cartoon gave you a "chuckle", you really ought to consider therapy. Daily doses of Jon Stewart can't cure that mess.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I'm glad someone said this. Agreed. Truly disgusting.

Listen, I get how people detest the previous administration, I've said it before that they all should be brought up on treason charges and at least tried.

To continually live in the past, offering no solutions and incessantly blaming what happened 10 years ago is pathetic and borderline pathological.

But to take the leap where you make a sick, vile joke - the punch line of which is a savage, brutal murder against a surprised, unarmed, woman (and young man) who had no ability to defend themselves is incomprehensible.

If your hatred of Dick Chaney is still so much a part of your everyday life that this cartoon gave you a "chuckle", you really ought to consider therapy. Daily doses of Jon Stewart can't cure that mess.

This was well said and I can't possibly add to it. Well done.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

To continually live in the past, offering no solutions and incessantly blaming what happened 10 years ago is pathetic and borderline pathological.

Agreed, but look at it from the point of view of the Democratic Party:

If they stop blaming Bush, they will have to admit that the 6 years and counting of his successor are an abject failure.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Yes; most people agree with educating children, and that Climate Change is real.

It's quite a stretch to claim some sort of pathetic victory on.



{JUST IN} The number of Respondents siding with him on "the sky being blue" are of the charts! Alert John Stewart! Fire up the spin machine!


For the record, Romney would be exactly the same. But you know that.

Actually, according to a Pew Research poll slightly more than half of Americans do not believe in man-made global warming:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/26/po...lobal-warming/

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Actually, according to a Pew Research poll slightly more than half of Americans do not believe in man-made global warming:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/26/po...lobal-warming/

Well..about half the country is Republican so no surprsie there...more guns!

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Actually, according to a Pew Research poll slightly more than half of Americans do not believe in man-made global warming:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/26/po...lobal-warming/

You are a gambler.. What are the consequences if these folks a wrong?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by jms62

You are a gambler.. What are the consequences if these folks a wrong?

It's actually quite an improvement from a few years back when Rush Limbaugh had his Conservatard lemmings brainwashed into believing it wasn't even happening.



Now the challenge is a matter of convincing them that it is being caused by CO2 emissions and not simply a matter of their invisible BFF in the sky hitting the reset button every 10,000 years.




Good luck with that one.

[geeker2]

"According to a new Quinnipiac University poll, 45 percent say the country would have been better off if Mr. Romney had been elected"

That has to really hurt



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...fidence-obama/