OSU vs. UF

anything else would be an abomination!

[sham]

I agree. OSU vs Fl

I dunno about an abomination.
Mich lost in the other team's stadium by a field goal.
Either way, I'm satisfied because even if they won today, USC had no business in that game, none.
Lets face it, Florida will get beat almost as badly as USC would have if they get the nod.
If Florida gets the nod the sweatervest has a championship in the bag.

Originally Posted by oracle80

I dunno about an abomination.
Mich lost in the other team's stadium by a field goal.
Either way, I'm satisfied because even if they won today, USC had no business in that game, none.
Lets face it, Florida will get beat almost as badly as USC would have if they get the nod.
If Florida gets the nod the sweatervest has a championship in the bag.

it would say that the other conferences don't matter
Florida is a conference champion, Michigan is a second place conference team

[sham]

Here is another way to look at it. Both Fl and Mich played two patsy div 2 type teams so I tossed those. Fl opponents won 63.43% of their games. Mich opponents won 58.33% of their games. They both played 3 each 10 win teams and both won 2 of those 3 games. Mich won 9 of 10 games (tossed Cent Mich and Ball St), Fl won 10 of 11 games (tossed UCF and West Carolina). Based on strength of opponents, Fl deserves the shot.

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

it would say that the other conferences don't matter
Florida is a conference champion, Michigan is a second place conference team

In the rest of the country outside the of the south, noone gives a rats ass about conferences, they just want the best two teams to meet in the championship game and provide the most exciting game.
You see, when the best two teams meet, its always more exciting than watching one team pound on another team.
Now, if you wanna make a little wager on OSU-Florida if it occurs be my guest!!!
I think that anyone who is advocating such a matchup wholeheartedly should be willing to back the Gators, seems logical.

[gales0678]

i heard if mich played fla on a neutral field they would be 6 point fav's

I think it will be OSU vs UF and the line will be OSU -10

Originally Posted by gales0678

i heard if mich played fla on a neutral field they would be 6 point fav's

I think it will be OSU vs UF and the line will be OSU -10

I agree.
yeah, all the lines makers said Michigan would be a 6-7 point fave over Florida on a neutral field.
Florida will get absolutely destroyed by OSU, won't even be a game.
You'd think maybe one of these "yee haw!! So SEC" guys who are so outspoken about Florida should be playing in the big game would wanna put down their money against OSU in the big game.
Lets see how many of these yeehaws want some action.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I agree.
yeah, all the lines makers said Michigan would be a 6-7 point fave over Florida on a neutral field.
Florida will get absolutely destroyed by OSU, won't even be a game.
You'd think maybe one of these "yee haw!! So SEC" guys who are so outspoken about Florida should be playing in the big game would wanna put down their money against OSU in the big game.
Lets see how many of these yeehaws want some action.

so one has to say yeehaw if one roots for an sec team? hmm, interesting.

it has nothing to do with what you feel the outcome of a game would be, it has to do with getting the two best teams to meet. according to what i've seen, at this point florida should be chosen over michigan to face OSU. and after the upset win by ucla mike, you should know that on any given saturday, any team can beat any other team.

Originally Posted by Danzig188

so one has to say yeehaw if one roots for an sec team? hmm, interesting.

it has nothing to do with what you feel the outcome of a game would be, it has to do with getting the two best teams to meet. according to what i've seen, at this point florida should be chosen over michigan to face OSU. and after the upset win by ucla mike, you should know that on any given saturday, any team can beat any other team.

No you misunderstand. You aren't a yee haw if you root for an SEC team.
You are a yee haw if you root for an SEC team(that isnt yours) to make a chapionship game as if that somehow vindicates the SEC team you root for who is not going.
I just don't grasp the logic of that and never will. It would be like me rooting for the Cowboys to get to the super bowl if the Giants don't go as if by being in the same division as the Giants it vindictates them.
I just don't understand or get this logic and never will.
And you can use that any given sunday crap on anything, but anyone who thinks Florida is a better team than Michigan needs counseling or isnt that bright.
Bottom line is that Fla-OSU will produce a boredom blowout game, anyone who thinks other wise, well I'm sure plenty of folks will offer you the spread. I doubt many will be takers though.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by oracle80

No you misunderstand. You aren't a yee haw if you root for an SEC team.
You are a yee haw if you root for an SEC team(that isnt yours) to make a chapionship game as if that somehow vindicates the SEC team you root for who is not going.
I just don't grasp the logic of that and never will. It would be like me rooting for the Cowboys to get to the super bowl if the Giants don't go as if by being in the same division as the Giants it vindictates them.
I just don't understand or get this logic and never will.
And you can use that any given sunday crap on anything, but anyone who thinks Florida is a better team than Michigan needs counseling or isnt that bright.
Bottom line is that Fla-OSU will produce a boredom blowout game, anyone who thinks other wise, well I'm sure plenty of folks will offer you the spread. I doubt many will be takers though.

ok, i think i've got you on the yeehaw thing. but many of us who pull for an sec team know that week in and week out, the sec is so tough. very contentious, and seemingly not getting the respect it should nationwide.

i think all this debate is moot. i think michigan gets their re-do. whether michigan is better than florida--i'm not sure i'd take either one over the other. after all, i feel florida could handle those on michigans schedule. i wonder what michigans record would be had they played lsu's schedule...or what would OSU's be? lsu played four top ten teams on the road. OSU can't boast that resume, can they?

[Danzig]

OSU's schedule:

September 2 Northern Illinois W 35-12 1-0 (0-0)
September 9 at No. 2 Texas W 24-7 2-0 (0-0)
September 16 Cincinnati W 37-7 3-0 (0-0)
September 23 No. 24 Penn State W 28-6 4-0 (1-0)
September 30 at No. 13 Iowa W 38-17 5-0 (2-0)
October 7 Bowling Green W 35-7 6-0 (2-0)
October 14 at Michigan State W 38-7 7-0 (3-0)
October 21 Indiana W 44-3 8-0 (4-0)
October 28 Minnesota W 44-0 9-0 (5-0)
November 4 at Illinois W 17-10 10-0 (6-0)
November 11 at Northwestern W 54-10 11-0 (7-0)
November 18 No. 2 Michigan W 42-39 12-0 (8-0)

Michigan:

September 2 Vanderbilt W 27-7 1-0 (0-0)
September 9 Central Michigan W 41-17 2-0 (0-0)
September 16 at No. 2 Notre Dame W 47-21 3-0 (0-0) NBC
September 23 Wisconsin W 27-13 4-0 (1-0)
September 30 at Minnesota W 28-14 5-0 (2-0)
October 7 Michigan State W 31-13 6-0 (3-0)
October 14 at Penn State W 17-10 7-0 (4-0)
October 21 Iowa W 20-6 8-0 (5-0)
October 28 Northwestern W 17-3 9-0 (6-0)
November 4 Ball State W 34-26 10-0 (6-0)
November 11 at Indiana W 34-3 11-0 (7-0)
November 18 at No. 1 Ohio State L 42-39 11-1 (7-1)


florida:

September 2 Southern Miss W 34-7 1-0 (0-0)
September 9 UCF W 42-0 2-0 (0-0)
September 16 at No. 13 Tennessee W 21-20 3-0 (1-0) CBS
September 23 Kentucky W 26-7 4-0 (2-0)
September 30 Alabama W 28-13 5-0 (3-0) CBS
October 7 No. 9 LSU W 23-10 6-0 (4-0) CBS
October 14 at No. 11 Auburn L 27-17 6-1 (4-1)
October 28 at Georgia W 21-14 7-1 (5-1) CBS
November 4 at Vanderbilt W 25-19 8-1 (6-1)
November 11 South Carolina W 17-16 9-1 (7-1) CBS
November 18 Western Carolina W 62-0 10-1 (7-1)
November 25 at Florida State W 21-14 11-1 (7-1)
December 2 No. 8 Arkansas W 38-28 12-1 (7-1) CBS

[Samarta]

While I'm not a fan of rematches, I think it's clearly Michigan here. Reason why? They are a lot better team than FL. Michigan lost one game by 3 points to the #1 in the country on it's home field. If Michigan gets the nod, I look for a repeat of year in which Fl St. beat FL by 3 and then they had a rematch in the Sugar Bowl and FL blew them out. Will it be Michigan? Who knows...but I think they are clearly better than the gators. Not a banner year for college football, that's for sure.

[Danzig]

but on what basis is michigan 'a lot better'? i mean, a LOT? from what i've seen, based on #'s, florida had a slightly tougher schedule than michigan. yes, based on one loss each, michigan lost to the better team. but it's more than just that one loss that they go by.

[SentToStud]

It's going to be interesting.

I'm a Michigan grad but live in Florida, so I'm ok with either.

Mich lost by 3 pts at OSU.

Florida lost by 10 at Auburn.

What would have been real interesting is if the OSU-Michigan game had been played yesterday as opposed to a week ago. More people would be clamoring for the rematch, I think. As it is, a bit of the "out of sight, out of mind" is at work.

Can't blame the Florida people for saying it's their turn.

If Gators get there and win, they'd be reigning champs in Basketball and Football. That would be pretty big...

[Danzig]

we'll know this evening. 7 my time.

if lsu goes to pasadena, they'll be the first sec team in 60 years to go. 'bama went in 46. over 36k tickets have been bought by lsu fans who think they're cal-bound.

and i type all this while drinking coffee from my purple and gold cup....


oh, and arkansas (god rot them) may go to the outback, to meet penn state. go nittany lions.

i grew up in md, so always pulled for penn. adopted lsu when i moved down here 12 years ago.


speaking of penn st, my youngest asked who would coach when joe paterno retires. i stared at him like he was sprouting a second head!! lol well, geez eric, i don't know i told him. joe's been there my entire life. now THAT will be odd when he isn't there anymore.

[Scav]

IT IS SO AWESOME THAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT, just keeps people complaining and bitching about the playoff and WE FINALLY MIGHT SEE IT soon.

It would be awesome for them to just do it this year, make a judgement call and say "You know what, I am picking 8 teams, and you guys are actually going to PLAY to win the National Title, instead of automatically being handed a 50% chance (natural odds) to win the stupid thing"

[Danzig]

there absolutely should be a playoff... adding a game to the schedule and losing the bye week certainly put a wrinkle in their fabric of 'can't mess with these guys education, playing too many would hinder the students'. take the winners of each conference and play them off. of course that system would keep top teams out, such as michigan and lsu. perhaps a few 'wild card' teams.

there is no perfect system. but the bcs system is so incredibly flawed.. at least a playoff would put the teams in complete charge of their destiny. look at lsu yesterday, they move up and didn't even play.

Originally Posted by Danzig188

ok, i think i've got you on the yeehaw thing. but many of us who pull for an sec team know that week in and week out, the sec is so tough. very contentious, and seemingly not getting the respect it should nationwide.

i think all this debate is moot. i think michigan gets their re-do. whether michigan is better than florida--i'm not sure i'd take either one over the other. after all, i feel florida could handle those on michigans schedule. i wonder what michigans record would be had they played lsu's schedule...or what would OSU's be? lsu played four top ten teams on the road. OSU can't boast that resume, can they?

Zieg and Coach and whoever, just answer me this one question honestly ok?
Lets say their is a national contest/lottery. Mr and Mrs Zeig and Mr and Mrs Coach get pulled out of the drawing.
You just won a 100,000 bet on a game between Michigan and Florida.
Which team are you gonna put your 100 grand on?

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Good morning ALL,

This is a strange thread. I thought the Championship game was OSU/USC.

Did I miss something?

Yeah you missed UCLA saving USC from an alltime beating from OSU.
I'm kinda wondering how the "USC deserves the bid" guys are now, anyone seen them?
Imagine that, guys telling us that a team who lost to Oregon St shoulda been in the championship over Mich and Florida?
That game woulda been extremely ugly.