Newt Gingrich! for President! 2012 !

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

That's a defeatist way to look at it.


The Afghan Mujahideen was armed, trained and funded by the CIA. Now you're going to find mostly denial and propaganda from the mainstream media on this issue.

But all you have to do is look at the times back in 1979-1989 and you can clearly see that Russia was our #1 enemy.

Look at our funding of rebels in Libya, which I'm sure they will continue to deny that any Al Qaeda is involved.

Don't stop believing.

Thanks on the friendly welcome back.

yeah, i know all that. i've bitched before on here about our years of foreign policy being predicated on the belief that 'the enemy of our enemy is our friend'. it's how afganistan got rid of russia, and how iraq fended off iran in their war. whoever russia backed guaranteed our involvement for the other side. didn't make sense then, and we're still suffering the repercussions of it now.
ron paul is non-intervenionist...that's fine. but when he criticized us going in and killing bin laden-well, i disagree. and warn pakistan ahead of time? that would be counter-productive.


anyone who voted for obama must surely be critical of pretty much every step he's taken the last two years. i don't know of really any domestic or foreign policy stances of the bush years that he's changed. tax breaks, continued. still in iraq? yep. afganistan? yes, and actually ramped up. gitmo still open? of course. economy any better? no.