DERBY/OAKS DAWN PATROL: (5/1) Valeski out, Optimizer in..

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I'm not knocking people. I just don't get why people like him and want it explained.

Nick's explanation still doesn't do it for me, and yeah, while Pyro and El Padrino do have different circumstances, my assertation that they are similar in style and lack of speed, and an abundance of hype, it still stands.

We clearly have different definitions of "abundance of hype." Pyro went off at 5.7-1 after a 10th place finish. El Padrino is at 20.5-1 right now at thegreek.com. What's more, I don't see anybody expecting him to win. Rather, folks are looking to play him underneath, which I don't find outrageous.